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iMPC Pro Disscussion

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  • I just deleted iMPC Pro - didn't want to, but it had bloated to about 750MB (probably just the base 500MB or so plus my samples). I'll bring it back someday but it just wasn't getting used.

  • I hope beatmaker 3 will be the first to stop forcing users to keep sample libraries installed that they don't want, it's like walking around carrying someone else's sample library on your computer and not being able to use the space for your own stuff. I think they even eluded to it in past post.

  • edited November 2014

    @kobamoto said:

    Monzo you sound like your taking this personal and like you're not even listening to what I'm saying

    I don't take this personally, and I am listening. You're exceptionally vocal in your support for this app so it's kinda difficult not to hear ya.

    @kobamoto said:

    I'm a sampling expert hardware and software based the app is clearly a milestone in iOS sampling beatmachines no ifs, ands, or buts about it

    If it worked on my device there's a possibility I'd agree, since it doesn't I can only reiterate it's lemon status.

    @kobamoto said:

    On top of that you've already disclosed that you can see the difference between the app running on your ipad versus faster ipads which you've noted yourself more than once in this thread.

    Yep, but it's listed at the point of sale as being iPad 2 compatible, and it obviously isn't. That means it doesn't work as it's supposed to, for all stated supported devices, regardless of how great it is on yours.

    @kobamoto said:

    No I don't have gadget not yet but I will after some updates, also I never slated gadget, I slated the gadget samplers lack of features that I needed, but it was nothing personal against you or gadget users.

    I don't know why you keep bringing up the personal angle, I don't care if you slag off Korg or Gadget, but I think that as a 'sampling expert' your comparisons of Gadget vs iMPC Pro should be based on personal experience with the app, rather than assumptions. If you haven't tried every iOS sampler then you cannot categorically state iMPC Pro is the best available, dismissing ones you've never used.

  • edited November 2014

    Monzo you win, and whatever it is you're welcome to it.

    I know the features of gadgets samplers probably better than you and you own it. If you think I need to use abudhabi to know that it's lack of transient detection is sub par, not unlike Parallax mentioned about the Impc pro, or other omissions in the same vein like the limited amount of slices you are allowed then we are not really even having the same discussion.

    you're whole point is that the impc pro is not working for you, I get that but the fact that it's working for me doesn't invalidate your experience, just like your experience doesn't invalidate mine. There is no gripe here. So the impc pro is a lemon you say, ok then lets make some lemonade.

  • @kobamoto said:

    I know the features of gadgets samplers probably better than you and you own it.

    Wow, that's put me in my place. Seems my experienced-based feedback is worthless. Oh well.

  • your feedback wasn't worthless, you gave the most feedback regarding your type of setup
    especially of value to me because I'm suffering from a low powered iPad and you're coming from a similar stance, so it was quite helpful….. where we disagree is about Sampler Features, and it doesn't matter what name is on the app, like already stated you told me quite clearly that you don't care about the features I'm using and the features that are of priority to me, and I let you know clearly that I got the message. Just because I know more about sampling beatmachines than you do does not mean that your experience or feedback is worthless.

    I like samplers, I like sampling, that's what this is about for me, you're taking this somewhere that I can't follow.

  • edited November 2014

    @kobamoto said:

    Just because I know more about sampling beatmachines than you do does not mean that your experience or feedback is worthless.

    That's big of you. How do you actually know this though, when you know nothing about me, my experience, skills or history? And how do you validate your earlier statement that you know more about Gadget, and in particular Abu Dhabi than I do when you don't own either, and again have no knowledge of my experience in using the IAP?

  • Tritonman reaches for the tasty popcorn snack.

  • I have to say i have a Love'n'Hate relationship with iMPC and iMPC Pro.

    They are pretty straight forward apps but it have a fair share of small issues that have been mentioned here in the forums.

    A while back I sent an e-mail to Retronyms summarizing the issues that were on discussion, but there's been no action since then.

    Seems like The Wej and new apps have higher priority than making existing apps work...

    We did however manage to get them to pretty quickly add the delete sample function with in my opinion should have been there from the start... :D

    For me the real letdown of iMPC Pro is the handling of USB-Audio devices, the sampling from iTunes Library is neat as is the sampling form IAA instruments when it works.

    I do wish there was a 'monitor switch' so one could listen to the input before triggering sampling/recording and well proper Core Audio support regarding USB-Devices...

    Ironically iMPC's works better with USB-Devices than iMPC Pro but there is still the lack of 'monitor' switch before triggering sampling/recording and no way to in the app delete samples...

    Oh yeah, I have snacks ready too while catch the entertainment :D

  • edited November 2014

    @Monzo
    I have a suggestion, why don't you replace the words 'gadget, and abu dhabi, with the words sampling features, since I've repeatedly stated to you that this is what my interest is, I'd enjoy discussing beatmachines and the features they have that are great or the things they lack that would make them better, but I'm not interested in this uncessarry tit for tat we've got going on.

  • @Samu said:

    I have to say i have a Love'n'Hate relationship with iMPC and iMPC Pro.

    They are pretty straight forward apps but it have a fair share of small issues that have been mentioned here in the forums.

    A while back I sent an e-mail to Retronyms summarizing the issues that were on discussion, but there's been no action since then.

    Seems like The Wej and new apps have higher priority than making existing apps work...

    We did however manage to get them to pretty quickly add the delete sample function with in my opinion should have been there from the start... :D

    For me the real letdown of iMPC Pro is the handling of USB-Audio devices, the sampling from iTunes Library is neat as is the sampling form IAA instruments when it works.

    I do wish there was a 'monitor switch' so one could listen to the input before triggering sampling/recording and well proper Core Audio support regarding USB-Devices...

    Ironically iMPC's works better with USB-Devices than iMPC Pro but there is still the lack of 'monitor' switch before triggering sampling/recording and no way to in the app delete samples...

    Oh yeah, I have snacks ready too while catch the entertainment :D

    Samu you're not able to delete samples in the app?
    what about dragging them to the trashcan?

  • @kobamoto said:

    @Monzo
    I have a suggestion, why don't you replace the words 'gadget, and abu dhabi, with the words sampling features, since I've repeatedly stated to you that this is what my interest is, I'd enjoy discussing beatmachines and the features they have that are great or the things they lack that would make them better, but I'm not interested in this uncessarry tit for tat we've got going on.

    Look, I'm not going to sit idly by while you dismiss my level of knowledge in using my own apps as inferior to someone that doesn't even own a copy, and your assumption that you know 'more about sampling beatmachines' than I do when you know nothing about me. If you don't want me to respond then stop being so flipping rude and arrogant.

    And if you think one app is better than another because it has more 'features', then you know less about this subject than you think you do.

    This is starting to smell of troll...

  • edited November 2014

    @kobamoto said:

    Samu you're not able to delete samples in the app?
    what about dragging them to the trashcan?

    It works in iMPC Pro but no way to delete samples in iMPC :)

    Unless connecting to a computer and using iFunBox or iTunes.
    With Jailbroken device it's different story...

  • @Buska said:

    I honestly believe that this app is abandonware. They made a lot of money from it after the hype parade, it was top of the music app charts for a long time. Retronyms are hit & run developers, and this is by far their worst incident of that.

    There's enough people in the world for them to keep doing what they're doing for a long time..

    I don't know about this being their worst incident of abandonware:) The original iMPC was abandoned with known IAA bugs and other bugs. Their "solution" was for us to pay for a new app. but receive a "discount". The problem with that is they left out features that were in the original app. and to add insult to injury, the upgrade "discount" wasn't really a discount because that price was and is still available to users regardless of whether they owned the original app.

    You're right, they are relying on new buyers who don't know their history of abandonware, crippleware and don't care attitude.

  • @samu
    oh I see what you mean, thought you were talking about the pro, I've long since ripped the samples out of the original travesty and deleted it, the only thing I really liked about it was the responsiveness of the pads, but that wasn't enough to keep it on my iPad.

    you would think the monitoring issue would have been fixed when they added the traschcan as well as the core audio issues, they've got some unusual coding culture going on overthere it's like a pancake on one side and a waffle on the other :D

  • I wish every app would put the flux fx in, retronyms got that idea from korgs ielectribe and it's such a dope way to do beat juggling on the iPad, like simulating doubles and drops. the way you can record that stuff into the sequencer, have a diff flux session on each sequence and resample that stuff, send it off to Samplr is sick, it's amazing what can be gotten even out of the slow iPad 3

  • edited November 2014

    Been very on the fence about this one. I've got an MPC 1000, so I'm wondering if there's any place for iMPC Pro. I've got a few questions.

    First, in what ways is it possible to load samples into iMPCp? I'm guessing you can get them in through AudioCopy. How about Audioshare's 'open in'?
    Second: Can iMPCp act as a midi clock or MMC slave? I understand that midi is lacking, but surely it can act in slave mode to incoming clock...right?
    Third: Has anybody tried sampling through the new Alesis IODock II? I haven't seen this interface mentioned yet, though I confess, I haven't read through the 500+ posts in the several threads.
    Fourth, any idea if timestretch is actually going to be implemented?

    Thanks guys! Praying for rain, but bracing for whisky.

  • edited November 2014

    not sure about the alesis, but the inputs don't work with my is202, outputs do.
    the core audio interface issue is a freakin mystery and I haven't seen them retronyms respond about it yet!

    it's file format is not compatible with your mpc 1000.

    but it's $12bucks and is beyond worth it if you already have an ipad.

    I haven't tried to sync it with anything so I'm not aware if it's got some under the hood sync ala Samplr. some how I think not.

    it's a very a very useful app, great for sample editing from your iTunes library on the go, great for making fodder for using in your other samplers, I do it all the time.

  • Still crashes galore ..... At f#{king save no less!

  • Sample fodder, sounds nice. Must be good at mangulation then I take it? Does it have pitch envelopes?

  • edited November 2014

    @aleyas said:

    Been very on the fence about this one. I've got an MPC 1000, so I'm wondering if there's any place for iMPC Pro. I've got a few questions.

    First, in what ways is it possible to load samples into iMPCp? I'm guessing you can get them in through AudioCopy. How about Audioshare's 'open in'?
    Second: Can iMPCp act as a midi clock or MMC slave? I understand that midi is lacking, but surely it can act in slave mode to incoming clock...right?
    Third: Has anybody tried sampling through the new Alesis IODock II? I haven't seen this interface mentioned yet, though I confess, I haven't read through the 500+ posts in the several threads.
    Fourth, any idea if timestretch is actually going to be implemented?

    Thanks guys! Praying for rain, but bracing for whisky.

    the mpc 1000 excels at sequencing outboard gear, and tactility although you can hook up a pad controller to the impc pro, and it might be a small thing but you can create 1 bar sequences on the 1000, not so on the impc pro the smallest is 2 bars right now, they've said they would do something about that but that remains to be seen.

    the impc pro beats the mpc-1000 at fx, automation, mixer, and resampling prowess through iaa fx. and sample, pattern, and sequence navigation, you can just drag samples and sequences around from one pad to another, it's quite quick.
    and the piano roll is something else that the grid editors on the 1000 can't compete with as far as sample manipulation on the grid, moving samples around on the grid dynamically…. but the 1000s grid editors have other features based in the midi spec that the impc pro doesn't have… basically the impc pros midi spec is niL …

    even so one of the dopest iOS apps for sure, put your samples in your library and sample from there, until they fix the core audio issue or make sure you only use a sound card that is definitely supported.

  • envelopes yes, but not pitch. filter and amplitude envelopes, but you can automate the pitch in coarse or precision. and i used to hate on the side chain comp duck but I've grown to like it.
    you can put fx on each sample and then globally, and run the whole app or particular tracks through iaa fx.

    audiobus is another weird omission of retronyms, but the fx apps i use with it are sugar bytes apps and cs spectral and they work fine with iaa

  • as a 1000 user you probably like the sequence merge feature (convert) I wish the app had that , it doesn't and that +the 1bar issue gets on my nerves. but it does have all of the recordable muting etc… so that's very cool

  • edited November 2014

    The Grid Editor in iMPC Pro leaves much to be desired too.

    How does one edit the '16-Levels' in the Grid Editor since we only see one note per pad there?

    The 'automated' data can not be edited, If changes need to be made it has to be re-automated/recorded.

    If Akai/Retronyms were serious about making things in iMPC Pro work i know they could...

    There is just too many small things that need fixing and these have already been forwarded to Retronyms but it's like the problems don't even exist for them, and they also fail to see why proper AB integration is needed...

    One way to raise the voice is to TwitterBomb and keep posting on they FB wall, it should probably speed things up a little since non-flattering PR is no good PR ;)

  • @aleyas said:

    Sample fodder, sounds nice. Must be good at mangulation then I take it? Does it have pitch envelopes?

    honestly this app is a sample mangling monster!

    the dev mentioned not too long ago about working on time stretch, I think that's cool and all but honestly I just can't believe it until I see it, in the app, working like it should cause they have said allot of things that haven't panned out.

  • @Samu said:

    The Grid Editor in iMPC Pro leaves much to be desired too.

    How does one edit the '16-Levels' in the Grid Editor since we only see one note per pad there?

    The 'automated' data can not be edited, If changes need to be made it has to be re-automated/recorded.

    If Akai/Retronyms were serious about making things in iMPC Pro work i know they could...

    There is just too many small things that need fixing and these have already been forwarded to Retronyms but it's like the problems don't even exist for them, and they also fail to see why proper AB integration is needed...

    One way to raise the voice is to TwitterBomb and keep posting on they FB wall, it should probably speed things up a little since non-flattering PR is no good PR ;)

    I keep telling people that, its lonely being the only one on their Facebook page bringing up issues, it's ridiculous.

  • @kobamoto said:

    I keep telling people that, its lonely being the only one on their Facebook page bringing up issues, it's ridiculous.

    You're not alone there ;)

  • really? , hey we must be like that movie 300 overthere lol

  • oh yeah it would be great if you could export individual tracks as audio but right now it's master only so you'll need to mute-export-mute-export etc…, but that's how it is on the 1000 .

  • edited November 2014

    @aleyas said:

    Does it have pitch envelopes?

    @kobamoto said:

    envelopes yes, but not pitch. filter and amplitude envelopes, but you can automate the pitch in coarse or precision.

    I would think that @aleyas asking about pitch envelopes means he wants the pitch to change while the sample is playing. Automating the pitch in iMPC Pro does not do that. Am I wrong? I hope to learn.

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