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Small things that irk you considerably

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  • Aside from bugs that crash apps:

    Korg Gadget's limiter. My goodness is that thing awful (yeah, of course I always want a Ring Modulator sounding tone on a bass drum, WHO WOULDN'T?!), and it defaults to on with every new project.

  • Sample folders in patterning, drumperfect, gadget etc. Scrolling through a list of + 100 samples is just crazy.

  • @NTKK said:
    Sample folders in patterning, drumperfect, gadget etc. Scrolling through a list of + 100 samples is just crazy.

    Yes. Folders. Please. Folders. Please!

    I don't know my Ruby from my Python but how hard can it be? Is there no will? AS -as so often- has a simple solution. Not going to list out the Library of Congress with it, but plenty good enough.

    Yes in Auria. Please. And everywhere. Let the folders of freedom ring!

  • All my amps in Bias, in the amp line. Pain to scroll through them. Need folders so I can organize em.

  • Mysteriously large app sizes after I go through and (apparently) delete all my samples & other data files, so that I have to delete & reinstall the app just to free up the space that I should have already freed up.

  • @CalCutta said:
    Aside from bugs that crash apps:

    Korg Gadget's limiter. My goodness is that thing awful (yeah, of course I always want a Ring Modulator sounding tone on a bass drum, WHO WOULDN'T?!), and it defaults to on with every new project.

    I've never turned it off so I suppose I have wholly adjusted to the Gadget Limiter sound, but now I'm going to derange my sensory habituation by turning it off.

  • @rhcball said:

    It's the right way to go ;) My recommendation, if you want a limiter, use either AUFX Push, or Amazing Noises Limiter.

  • File transfer...a nightmare...sort of a BIG thing...on 16gb pad:(

  • And that big audioshare button should actualy work too! Cough Egoist cough... ;). I keed i keed...

    @eustressor said:
    Every music app ever made should be on the 'Bus (Dr. Ohm!) and have a big blue "Import/Export to/from AudioShare" button on the primary screen. Period.

  • The wholly inconsistent MIDI implementation across the iOS landscape. I mean for heavens sake, MIDI is a STANDARD that was agreed between music manufactures over 30 years ago. The clue is in the word STANDARD.

    Talk to someone with a hardware set-up, notice the convenient way a wired connection works and code your MIDI implementation based on those principles. The basics:

    1. Channels exist for a reason
    2. MIDI clock was designed to enable us to connect things together AND KEEP THEM IN TIME - if your app - app connections are tighter by just matching tempo rather than using MIDI clock you are wasting your time and ours by including it in your code - we will just waste time trying to use it and then moan about it on forums.
    3. Wires can be unplugged when not in use (hint: No-one likes there app to be a MIDI whore)
    4. MIDI learn is REALLY helpful and appreciated.. But generally we don't want it to be a requirement every time we re-load an app.. Memory is wonderful
    5. Kick drums belong on C not C#
    6. Even DnB uses more than just drums sounds - so if you are thinking of making a drum app that doesn't offer solid MIDI connectivity (including both master and slave sync capability) bear in mind that market is just about saturated now - and it was never the strongest business model to begin with.
    7. If your app offers delay fx, we are going to want to sync it with tempo. Trust me, we will. Design it in from day 1 but don't ignore point 2 above.
    8. Get MIDI right and your app will get used more than your competition. We will then rave about how great this is ALL OVER THE INTERNET. Win-win?
    9. Get MIDI wrong or design a killer sequencer GUI and deny us MIDI OUT and we turn into a right bunch of moaners - ALL OVER THE INTERNET.
    10. Never give up, never surrender - MIDI and iOS must be a right bitch to get sorted - keep going 'cos despite the moans we do appreciate the effort.
  • @xen said:
    The wholly inconsistent MIDI implementation across the iOS landscape. I mean for heavens sake, MIDI is a STANDARD that was agreed between music manufactures over 30 years ago. The clue is in the word STANDARD.

    Talk to someone with a hardware set-up, notice the convenient way a wired connection works and code your MIDI implementation based on those principles. The basics:

    1. Channels exist for a reason
    2. MIDI clock was designed to enable us to connect things together AND KEEP THEM IN TIME - if your app - app connections are tighter by just matching tempo rather than using MIDI clock you are wasting your time and ours by including it in your code - we will just waste time trying to use it and then moan about it on forums.
    3. Wires can be unplugged when not in use (hint: No-one likes there app to be a MIDI whore)
    4. MIDI learn is REALLY helpful and appreciated.. But generally we don't want it to be a requirement every time we re-load an app.. Memory is wonderful
    5. Kick drums belong on C not C#
    6. Even DnB uses more than just drums sounds - so if you are thinking of making a drum app that doesn't offer solid MIDI connectivity (including both master and slave sync capability) bear in mind that market is just about saturated now - and it was never the strongest business model to begin with.
    7. If your app offers delay fx, we are going to want to sync it with tempo. Trust me, we will. Design it in from day 1 but don't ignore point 2 above.
    8. Get MIDI right and your app will get used more than your competition. We will then rave about how great this is ALL OVER THE INTERNET. Win-win?
    9. Get MIDI wrong or design a killer sequencer GUI and deny us MIDI OUT and we turn into a right bunch of moaners - ALL OVER THE INTERNET.
    10. Never give up, never surrender - MIDI and iOS must be a right bitch to get sorted - keep going 'cos despite the moans we do appreciate the effort.

    worth repeating!

  • ^^That x 3 ... And unbrick iFunbox so I can upgrade freely, dammit! (Still sitting on 8.2, twiddling my thumbs) ...

  • The IRS. The US health care system. Lawyers. Frivolous lawsuits. Socioeconomic injustices. Pharmaceutical companies. Advertising. Spam. Hackers. Junk mail. Traffic. Politicians. Increased volume during commercials. Home owner associations. Aging. Speedtraps. Fast food. Corporate America. But mostly, hot beer.

  • @funjunkie27 said:
    The IRS. The US health care system. Lawyers. Frivolous lawsuits. Socioeconomic injustices. Pharmaceutical companies. Advertising. Spam. Hackers. Junk mail. Traffic. Politicians. Increased volume during commercials. Home owner associations. Aging. Speedtraps. Fast food. Corporate America. But mostly, hot beer.

    lol, good stuff. I second it.

  • @funjunkie27 said:
    The IRS. The US health care system. Lawyers. Frivolous lawsuits. Socioeconomic injustices. Pharmaceutical companies. Advertising. Spam. Hackers. Junk mail. Traffic. Politicians. Increased volume during commercials. Home owner associations. Aging. Speedtraps. Fast food. Corporate America. But mostly, hot beer.

    When people bitch about non-AB/iOS-related issues

  • Haha totally joking(though I even felt bad typing it)! I absolutely agree with everything you said.

  • edited September 2015

    @NTKK said:
    Sample folders in patterning, drumperfect, gadget etc. Scrolling through a list of + 100 samples is just crazy.

    @Samu said:
    Apps lacking standard iOS8+ features for dealing with files...

    >

    Yes! I think sample management and its related workflow trip-ups are among the biggest, most frustrating drawbacks to iOS music making.

    My personal entry here is Beatmaker 2's oh-so-close fail on Dropbox importing. I wish the option to import folders--not just files--from Dropbox was commonplace among apps that handle audio and samples. BM2 has this, but it can't handle folders that are nested just two or three layers deep within other folders.

    Since Audioshare is the high standard in this area, it would be great if other apps at least implemented the iCloud file picker option that allows you to near-instantly import whole folders from Audioshare. I think Beathawk is the only iOS music-making app that does this.

    Patterning, Beat-Machine, Gadget samplers, Samplr, Sector, Egoist, Nanostudio and Beatmaker are already among my favorite apps, but reliable folder importing would significantly bolster them all IMO.

    Relatedly, AudioCopy is woefully limited (no multi-copy, 16/44.1 samples only, slow), but that's a big, not small, irk, and my expectations are much higher for BM2 than Retronyms.

  • Sampletank's inability to output 4 instruments separately. Currently, instrument A, B, C & D are all merged as a single output. Instead, each instrument part should have its own discrete track output like Jam Maestro or Thumbjam.

  • edited September 2015

    gadget receives on all midi channels from all devices, that's not good.

    samplr DESPERATELY needs to be able to read folders so i can organize my samples. i have ~9gb of samples loaded into it and i have to scroll for like 30 seconds to find a thing.

    and yeah all sampling apps should be able to pull from one pool of samples instead of having like 4 copies of the same sample in 4 different apps

  • @blanksmaiden said:
    and yeah all sampling apps should be able to pull from one pool of samples instead of having like 4 copies of the same sample in 4 different apps

    The problem here is that every app developer goes and implements file handling in a slightly or sometimes completely different way. Feels like some of these things should be a standard that iOS takes care of.

  • edited September 2015

    @dataBANG said:
    Sampletank's inability to output 4 instruments separately. Currently, instrument A, B, C & D are all merged as a single output. Instead, each instrument part should have its own discrete track output like Jam Maestro or Thumbjam.

    I dunno if this is an "irk" or not, but I have the exact same thought about Launchpad's limitation of a single audio out. That app could be so much more powerful even with 3-4 audio outs. Per column audio outs would be even better.

    If the devs did that of course, that would cause another irk because it would increase the list of audio outs you have to scroll through when using IAA. It seems like Multitrack DAW has something like 20 outs for the love of god. :-)

  • Yonac's Steel Guitar landscape being locked the wrong way round, so my Smart Cover is facing me instead of at the top of the screen. This means no one can use a Smart Cover equipped device using the wedge shape of the cover to make the iPad tilted up. Such a simple decision and it is 100% incorrect.

    I use Steel Guitar less than I otherwise would as a result since it requires a conscious rotation of the screen each time I use it.

  • @blanksmaiden said:

    and yeah all sampling apps should be able to pull from one pool of samples instead of having like 4 copies of the same sample in 4 different apps

    Genius idea. A single sample pool would be perfect on iOS. You could have an app that handles all the samples with an SDK that other devs could use so they could access the samples...

    Who do we know with a solid SDK business model...hmmm

    Who do we know who has the gold standard audio file management system....hmmm

    Audiobus / Audioshare collaboration opportunity?

    There you go guys, that should keep you busy and make the odd buck along the way...
    ;)

  • edited September 2015

    @fprintf said:
    Yonac's Steel Guitar landscape being locked the wrong way round, so my Smart Cover is facing me instead of at the top of the screen. This means no one can use a Smart Cover equipped device using the wedge shape of the cover to make the iPad tilted up. Such a simple decision and it is 100% incorrect.

    I use Steel Guitar less than I otherwise would as a result since it requires a conscious rotation of the screen each time I use it.

    I deleted it immediately after installation and discovery that it is another of those highly stupid upside-down apps. I’m not going to turn the iPad the incorrect way round so that the cover is facing me, that’s not how the iPad is used. As a result, I won’t touch any of that company’s product ever again. I mean, doesn’t anyone actually test these things, ever, with actual real people? So fucking irritating. Stupidity at its height.

    I installed a clapperboard app the other day that seemed like it would work, except it’s just some joke app that gives you a clapperboard that’s only upside down! All the text is upside down, the whole thing doesn’t go the correct way up no matter how much I wiggle the iPad. That totally moronic app is called Digislate, by those stupid cunts “wimbledon sound”.

  • @u0421793 if that's an irk, I'd hate to share a lift with you when positively incandescent etc :)

  • edited September 2015

    @u0421793 said:

    As a result, I won’t touch any of that company’s product ever again. I mean, doesn’t anyone actually test these things, ever, with actual real people? So fucking irritating. Stupidity at its height.
    >

    Who'd be an app developer eh ? How hard is it to turn it around ? I know this thread is about irritations, but that's not really the crime of the century (though I agree, it should be fixed).

  • Asked the developer of steel guitar about the screen orientation when it was released. The App is locked to a single screen orientation because it uses the iPad and iPhone accelerometer. on the smart case of the iPad Air 2 the app shows up the correct way, Guess something was different with other ipads.

  • @Lacm1993 said:
    Asked the developer of steel guitar about the screen orientation when it was released. The App is locked to a single screen orientation because it uses the iPad and iPhone accelerometer. on the smart case of the iPad Air 2 the app shows up the correct way, Guess something was different with other ipads.

    Accidentally I asked the same question and they just replay it's locked due to the orientation sensor. But I can't understand why since it's always possible to revers the polarity of the values read from the sensor? For that question I've yet to get a replay so I must have gotten them thinking...

    I'm also on the Air 2 and byt on my iPad the the app is 'upside down' when using the smart case...

  • Another irk at the moment is the much loved/hated AudioCopy which now requires an extra 'action' to complete the copy (tap on the notification), Arghhh....

    Why can't everyone just use 'standard' methods for transferring files between apps, make the 'container app' act as iOS-Fileprovider and use iOS-Document Picker to access the files, how hard can it be!?

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