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Overlapping sound frequencies are usually the culprit. Using some EQ and filters usually can clean stuff up.
I wrote two songs this week about the same thing and then realized they were one song about a single thing; how love, even if unchosen, is impossible to escape from, for at least one of the victims.
It's rough in places, but we all get different things from this fine club and what I'm trying to find is what I need to write about most and then how to do that.
Love, the word
is easy to deny dear
but what we had
was real until tonight here
Well that pushes all the buttons for me.
Really, truly astonishing piece, the shifting voices, the constantly evolving soundtrack style music behind it, beautifully subtle drums that came in and out like different doors being opened and closed and a wonderfully realised story.
When it collapsed into the sweet little sung section. Well, what can I say? Truly sublime.
Turning away from my emotional response and speaking to the more technical aspects; the whole thing was beautifully recorded and mixed. It had space where it needed it, light and shade, all those things they go on about on cheap talent shows.
My only slight niggle is with the sung vocals. And I know we go round in circles about this, and I'm even more guilty of this it appears, but I couldn't hear most of what was sung.
Also, unfortunately, I think you've gone and hoisted that bar up way out of reach for me.
@JohnnyGoodyear very intriguing track, very dense and filled to the brim with interesting ideas. I really like the combination of spoken word and singing, and your voice works so well for both.
Great atmosphere as well, it sounds like William Burroughs has been reincarnated as a songwriter. Weird and beautiful at the same time. Love the final section with the singing, it's a great way to end the song. The two sections complement each other perfectly, because they are so different.
It looks to me as if you are realising the artistic vision that could be glimpsed a few months ago when we started this club, the vision is maturing and JohnnyGoodyear is starting to emerge as a more fully formed artist, with a strong and distinct identity unlike anyone else.
My only concern is that having started by posting tracks that are 30 seconds long, you will be ending the year with ones that are 30 minutes long.
@JohnnyGoodyear
A gorgeous two parter that blend & roll into each other seamlessly. Soulful, gentle underlay in both parts of your song with your, as usual, intelligent thoughtful lyrics that sit proudly on top. I love "It smells of Victorian sleeping rooms." My mind & nose travelled to many different places.
If this was a song identity parade, I would be able to nod to the investigating officer that you were the composer/player/singer. Irrelevant of what you create, you/your songs are becoming you're own, unique genre.
It's all beautifully balanced in the mix & just let me enjoy the Dr Goodyear style.
@JohnnyGoodyear
You're one complex MF. I'm in prison into singing... Brilliant. Love the vocals. Soothing relief after emotional work out.
@AlterEgo_UK. Beautiful tribute. I suck at grieving.
@Igneous1 incredible groove. Loved every bit.
@High5denied very cool tune. I agree with others about the mix. You could really turn this into a force. Do you have Auria plugs to work the mix?
Thanks @rkmonkey !
@JohnnyGoodyear: What a wordsmith! Kept me listening. Spoken part was very clear although sometimes the other voice was a little distracting. Nice melody for Part 2 as well but as others have said, the words were not as clear in that section. Overall though I really enjoyed it - great imagination!
Thanks for the feedback. I do have Auria, and a good share of the plug-ins, and even used some of em. But, that's what I love about this thread, I like making music, but am in the infant stages of mixing and mastering. I'm going to see what I can do about the muddyness, turning up the vocals should be easy enough, I hope.
@JohnnyGoodyear
That was really a great song, very interesting. Your voice is a pretty great talking voice. Very soothing to listen to. The delay on the voice is a very cool effect in the song. I think I will aim for the way your vocals shine through to try to get mine at that level and crispness.
@High5denied all my early mixes were muddy, but like everything else there is simply no better way of improving them than by doing. With the SOTMC you will be mixing a new song every month and your mixes will definitely get better.
By no means. But I appreciate the very kind encouragement. I do have a problem with clarity of words sometimes when singing. I'm a bit stuck I guess. I like/want the emotion I feel, but, yes, as you might guess, the words, or the meaning of the words, is also important to me. I was always one of those kids sat on the floor in the corner of reading the lyrics off the back of the album cover; how I miss them now
Thank you for your encouragement. Means a lot. As you know, we work on what we work on and, it seems, the closer we may get to what we really want to say the more uncertain we can be as to whether the damn things working. One of the things I've learned through SOTMC -and it's an ongoing back and forth- is the importance of reminding ourselves that this isn't just a trick or a crossword to be efficiently completed, but an opportunity being offered differently to each of us to think about getting better or closer to what it is what we really want or mean to do with music.
As for the length, concept albums can surely only be just around the corner
Or not.
Thank you Mister Punk
Not sure what Sidney V. would make of it all, but feel sure that Lou Reed might understand what I'm struggling for 
I am particularly grateful for your words on genre. If I have a criticism of my efforts (I have many) it would be that I have a tendency to follow others/be too generic, through a lack of essential confidence. SOTMC, and the open, accepting nature of the group, has definitely held my feet to the fire as regards just trying to get on with what I really feel like, rather than aping others in the hope of some sort of acceptance etc.
Thanks for the note. It IS a bit of a relief and it IS a bit of a work out; you got both those bits exactly right
Thank you Mister Ego. As already mentioned I'm struggling a bit with the clarity issue, but for now an just pretty focused on saying what I need to say (even if folks can't make heads/tails of it
. Am considering getting a therapist to do an equivalent of sign-language translation at the bottom of the screen when I make the video 
Thanks for the compliments. Just to be clear, I have no idea what I'm doing with vocal 'production' BUT working on different sorts of efforts for SOTMC has been terrifically helpful. Just keep fiddling away
@High5denied I was in the same boat. I just got really frustrated with how my tracks were sounding so I sat down and read articles and watched any thing I could find on EQ and mixing. I'm much happier with my tracks now and I've gotten good feedback on my mixes it just takes time like everything else.
Without wanting to repeat what's been said before I have to say it - damn funkeh! I couldn't do this if I tried, so hats off to you.
Good sounds, would echo the requests for louder vocals though.
Very nice, uplifting, and like the slightly wobbly synth sound at the beginning.
Lovely, great to hear well played piano and strings. Sad but beautiful - would love to hear some vocals on this.
Really like this, my fave of yours thus far. Starts off with almost a Cocteau Twin-esque background vibe which then morphs/fragments into a thousand other things. Vary accomplished. I'm going to spoil my glowing praise by echoing @Jocphone 's comments about not quite catching all the spoken words, but love the singing at the end - fragile, vulnerable, - maybe? There's a whole bunch of stuff going on though - a lot of work in this and it's paid off. The bar has been raised again.
@AlterEgo_UK sorry I forgot to comment on your track, friday was a bad day for me.
I like the music, it's quite a beautiful piece, the main melody though is very similar to "sailing" though, so as it plays I can hear Rod Stewart in my head singing "across the water, to be with you"... It's obviously unintentional, but even the strings when they first come in echo the melody of "to be near you, to be free". I'm not accusing you of plagiarism, I think it's constant risk whenever we write melodies that they might sound similar to something else.
Still a beautiful track with a great atmosphere, well played and well mixed.
Thanks Mister M. OK. Here's an admission: Much like a film buff who's never seen Gone With The Wind (or worse, the Missus has never seen Casablanca!), I've not listened/paid attention to the Cocteau Twins, despite your previous suspicions I might have been cribbing from Liz Fraser since birth
Time to address a cultural shortcoming then:
@richardyot Ah, the falsetto and the slight throat low growl. Very beautiful in places. Interesting (to me) that this came out in 1990, the year of my departure from Blighty (and thus do I partially excuse myself). Any other CT track-suggestions to help the Education of Johnny most welcome.
The whole of the Heaven or Las Vegas album is excellent - IMO it's the culmination of the sound they had been building throughout the eighties. Blue Bell Knoll is also wonderful though.
Liz Fraser also sang on Massive Attack's "Teardrop", I believe it took them years to convince her to collaborate with them:
Dark, baroque grandeur...
LF kinda existed in her own faerie realm, complete with it's own language and frou frou goodness. And R Guthries soundscapes are a thing of beauty to behold - a magical combination. Treasure, Blue Bell Knoll and Heaven or Las Vegas are my faves.
OK. I think I'm getting my points of reference now. Dear @syrupcore completely nailed it when he sent me off to Bonnie Prince Billy, who I had never come across, but is very obviously my inbred cousin, and adding Liz in on the distaff side gives me a leprechaun and a faerie to have a serious chew on.
And while the highlight is on Ms Fraser, you probably know, but might be reminded of another venture, This Mortal Coil, with the following song, a wonderfully understated musical track that perfectly bolsters her powerful voice: