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@Matt_Fletcher_2000 I can't remember if I commented on your second track or not, but another great job. It's one thing to be prolific and experiment, it's another to do that and be good. Some nice melody and downtempo beats. I don't think the Fugue Machine use was overdone. Very tasteful and pro sounding as always. As I said before, your Gadget stuff is great, but this new genre your dabbling in is right up my alley.
If anyone's bored and loves the 80s, here's an experiment. It's my song as a VHS synth jam. Just picture Andrew McCarthy running in slow motion. At about 1:30 I start twisting some Microkorg knobs. From big and pristine to worn out and mono:
Thanks, didn't know about this one. I keep hoping for that new Elizabeth Fraser album - thought the Royal Festival Hall gigs were a sign...but no...
Nice. My view of the 80's is a bit different to the general consensus as I spent most of it at festivals listening to Hawkwind, but still appreciate a bit of poppy synth. I like the end when it unravels...
Thanks @BvsMV - really kind words... I'm enjoying breaking out of Gadget to be honest...
I know I have lots of catching up to do with other people's tracks... And people have been so kind commenting on mine. As always i'll get through them all properly before the end of the month - PROMISE.
@JohnnyGoodyear - I just listened to yours...
It feels like a mammoth, cathartic effort from the creator. I'm going to give an honest response from this particular listeners point of view.
It starts well I think. I love the sound managing weird backwards scapes you've got going at the start... and I demand to know how you made them
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The hip-hop style beat that comes in is good and as you start speaking/riffing over them I start to think of Dr Octagon's amazing and seminal 'Blue Flowers'. (Kind of a very dark and interesting hip hop track).
As the track moves on iI must at bit my ears started to tire a bit. It feels more like a pretty angsty spoken word poem than piece of music after a while. Not that there's anything wrong with that - but i'm not sure i'd race back to listen again and again. It feels very densely packed and nightmarish and quite... long. I too thought of William Burrows and Naked Lunch etc...
Then the 'part 2' starts and this is, TBH, personally, sweet relief... You singing voice here is wonderful, especially the higher octave stuff (I think you should do a whole track in that higher register - it's great - reminds me a bit of the guy from Hot Chip who really does wonders singing that high). The piano is great, the tune is great, the words are great... it's all great - I just wish a little that this was a separate track and it was longer (a chorus possibly)...
Anyway - there we are... hope that;s in some way helpful and not just really annoying
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Hugely impressive as a big production by the way. Didn't sound at all rough to me on my headphones...
@Matt_Fletcher_2000 I think we probably all have some kind of Plimsoll Line as regards our own songs. Fears and certainties. Sharing them here always reveals interesting feedback/reactions and, mostly, our fears are confirmed or revealed to be just a lack of self-confidence in the material etc. Generally speaking, for good or ill, I find I have a clearer understanding or feel for a song once other folks have had a chance to chime in, whether or not I agree with their analysis.
Your review, which I thank you for, is about exactly where I am/was about the piece(s) at the time of posting and still thereafter. They are two very different pieces of course, but written about the same subject (drug use/abuse) and they felt like bookends (albeit not musically
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What I've learned from this effort more than anything is my antipathy towards choruses. Especially with Part Two, which could be a stand alone song, but, as you note, would really benefit from a chorus/change. Problem is I like it as it is, in as far as it says what I want it to say etc etc. and just bolting on an extra bit feels a bit cynical (if wholly understandable).
For all of that, I find that when I'm in the middle of making something it feels very close and urgent and specific, but perhaps in three months, when I'm less close to it, I may revisit and approach the thing more technically and less emotionally.
Thanks again for your take.
I'm not sure if this had been discussed before, but could a Soundcloud account be set up just for the SOTM entries? I'm thinking that might make it easier for people to see what has been submitted. And yes, I have ulterior motives....I'm trying to collect compositions to demo what can be done with iOS music. I'm also hoping everyone would be ok with me using your compositions for this sole purpose...if not, please let me know.
@BvsMV
That is deff. right out of the 80's. Just listened on crappy work computer speakers. But, I liked it. It reminded me of the electronic music from the 80's for sure. Right down to the drums.
I think I brought this up once, but like a sticky fur-ball no-one seemed to touch it.
Easiest option would be to set up a Soundcloud Group or new account, and you should then be able to 'repost' and tracks you want to feature. I'm happy for you to use mine, but following the analogy of the fur-ball you might not want to.
I guess a Soundcloud account could be set up to repost all the SOTMC entries, the only problem is that those who prefer to use Youtube won't get featured on it.
Thanks @monzo...sounds like a good approach.
As a regular youtube user I have a selfish dog in this fight (and I don't love the limits SC places on quantity unless you pay etc) BUT I can see the logic and would be happy enough to accede to or support this. My only concern is if I (or whomever) doesn't have a paid SC account does it mean that I would be taking down pieces from a few months ago to allow for posting, say, next month's? Not sure how this works.
As regards youtube, and videos etc, I see no problem with this as if want to share some visuals I can just post an extra link.
I've just created a Song of the Month Club Soundcloud account, and will repost everything to it from this month (October) onwards.
I'll get everything sorted and publicise it in a fresh thread.
@JohnnyGoodyear Soundcloud gives you 3 hours of music, it should be enough for anything reasonably current. I've already started to delete my older tracks, not to save space but to save face.
Sweet! Thanks @richardyot!
https://soundcloud.com/song-of-the-month-club
Thanks Johnny... I think my reviews are usually about 50% a product of the mood i'm in when I write them to be honest
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And you're so right about revisiting... I'm doing that at the moment. I'm going through all my 'published' tracks as objectively as a possible to see how far off I am from a coherent album. It's a really interesting exercise. I have 47 tracks apparently (although a fair few are just experiments). I've come up with 9 i think could work together (running time is currently 39 minutes). Quite a few need changing in some way i think, and definitely mixing and mastering better. Interestingly 1 is pretty much the first track I produced in Gadget (almost 2 years ago - when I hadn't been making music for very long at all) and another is going to use a guitar part I played in pretty much 1 take (not knowing what I was doing) from Guitarism into Gadget's sole guitar patch.
I've already started to delete my older tracks, not to save space but to save face.
Great line
Agree with much/most of this. We all bring our biases and comfort zones. Especially to work we do largely (or wholly) alone. I am a writer not a musician. And so the words come first and last and always etc. This is one of the benefits of working with others of course, but as Ernest Thesiger apparently said about the Somme trenches: Oh, my dear! The noise! And the people!
Cool, I've followed. Nice to know where everyone is, so I can follow all the forum bods as well.
Thanks for doing that! I also hear you on the saving face thing
Thanks! I have just been listening to a lot of this style lately. I had no idea it was Back to the Future day.
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Ha! I was born in '84 so I think of Howard the Duck, Mannequin, and Goonies. PG was so different then.
My six-year-old son and I have played music together his whole life. Here's a little song he wrote by singing into my voice recorder, and I sampled using the Mini Sampler in Cubasis. I filled it out with drums from Waldorf Attack, 8bit goodness from SidTracker64, and some iProphet.
My kid has been really into harmonic minor keys and trap music lately, so that's what we've got for you...
@gburks man I loved this track! Great job! Awesome trick at 3 mins! Very pro sounding to me listening on apple ear buds.Welcome to da club! That must be great fun working with the little fella? I'm off to smash some fruit!!!
@BvsMV Dude,I'm 80's til I die!!! Loved your track aswell mate:) it took me back in my mind "montage" style to every great 80's film I ever saw....was it Elizabeth Shue in "Don't tell mum the babysitters dead"?? Anyway I know she did karate kid...man,I had such a crush on her!!:D
Hahaha! Thanks, for the comment. Yep, that's what I was going for when trying to make it all work in this 80s style. Montage, slow motion running. I'm probably going to persue this style as well, Gadget will probably be perfect for this.
Elisabeth.
https://johnnygoodyear.wordpress.com/2013/01/27/elisabeth-shue/
@gburks great track. Great mix and love the lead riff.
@BvsMV 80's ahh. Did they really happen? I know they birthed the early 90's. Cool track. You made it work.