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Sometimes it's not all about quality. I can think of many times I've needed to connect devices via a headphone socket in an emergency.
Lightning port to 3.5mm cables would have to be common place before it is a safe idea to do this. Not that I use an iPhone, but if they do it to those, the iPad can't be far behind.
If they do, at least make the iPhone waterproof at the same time.
I would be 'ok' with the loss of 3,5mm jack if there was a way to use two lightning devices at the same time.
I mean the rumoured Lightning->3,5mm jack looks nice but I wan't to be able to charge at the same time maybe using the USB3-CCK which would enable me to hook up a controller and a mic at the same time.
Too bad the Lightning Jack on the current USB3-CCK is only for charging but maybe that can be fixed via 'firmware-update' or something...
I don't miss floppy but I wouldn't miss not carrying various adopters with me.
I use it for monitoring quite s bit, it's sometimes handy. I'd rather have one than not.
Trust me, Apple will have an adapter that will allow you to connect headphones and charge your iDevice at the same time. They would be foolish not to try and grab another $35 from their customers.
Of course, there will always be other options.
http://appleinsider.com/articles/16/05/30/chinese-company-advertises-new-lightning-to-headphone-adapters-ahead-of-apples-iphone-7
Is this waterproof iOS device for Handel renditions?
As long as I can use my iRig Mic HD or Line6 MobileIn and Headphones at the same time I'll be fine with the 3,5mm jack removal.
If the IP-whatever classification will make the iPhone more resistant to mother-nature(humidity, heat etc.) I'll be fine as I'm fed up with having to replace the battery(it gets swollen) on my iPhone 5 after visits to a bit more 'extreme' climate-conditions that we have here in Sweden...
The bbc article was interesting. Thanks to whomever posted it. Honestly, the summary is true: it's almost astounding that it's lasted this long. People hook up their TVs with HDMI, stereos with ethernet, have stopped using wired remotes, wired phones and for many, wired headphones... We're in the era of voice activated cars and bluetooth connections to car stereos....
No doubt, the headphone jack going away is bad news for musicians—it a simple inexpensive connection that interfaces with almost all of our other gear.
But is it really that big of a deal for consumers? The petition has 300k signatures. I remember from working in retail that a single complaint was equal to 5 people having the same issue. I have no idea if that is true, scientifically, but that's what we were told so let's double it, just in case.
300,000 X 10 =
3,000,000people want to keep the analog jack.In the last year alone, Apple sold
~222,000,000iPhones (source)(3000000/222000000)*100 == 1.3513511.35%of customers give a shitFor the curious, if we say that each vote in the petition is worth 50 customers, we're still only at
6.76%.((300000*50)/222000000)*100==6.756756757That's just not enough to sway any sort of decision—and keep in mind that 222m is last year, not total customers. Indeed, I'm guessing Apple is confident (as in, not 'betting') that they are going to please significantly more than that with the change.
Gruber on Patel's take on the headphone jack.
http://daringfireball.net/2016/06/headphone_jacks_are_the_new_floppy_drives
Soon they'll probably do away with iPhone and iPods, then it'll be the integrated iHeadset.
This is a very music centric view of the iOS universe where everything revolves around delivering music to headphones. I have suggested Apple's plans for iOS are to link iOS to as many aspects of our lives as possible via their MFi licensing program (made for iPhone). Way back when, iPhones were primarily used for making calls versus how they're used now.
I wonder what type of connection the new OEM ear buds will replace the ear pod. My guess is lighting because Blu tooth is more expensive.
meh, not like Apple can kick my door in and rip the jack out of my 4S. As if I will ever need another phone.
I think it's preparation for BT 5 in 2017 - which increases bandwidth by 2x, is connectionless, uses half the power - Maybe no compression required for headphones? Maybe initial connection could contain stateful midi data to connect in interesting ways? Wondering what ideas devs might have for beacons in music production etc...
I think the media reporting this as waterproofing & making the device thinner is a bit of a red herring. The last mechanical parts that are prone to failure are the home button, sleep/wake button and the headphone jack. It's about removing the last moving parts. If it makes my device more reliable and improves audio quality with the trade off of a minor inconvenience then I'm ok with it, but Apple will need to sort out the parallel charging issue without appearing to be fleecing their customers.
Yes, headphone connection for most consumers will be wireless, this will enable use with the formats of compression the vast majority of users use at the moment. This may then lead Apple to design very different devices for professional use, but also probably very slowly.
Progress is cool, but i'm not gonna buy bluetooth headset instead of my 3.5mm sennheiser etc. Though, i still use my old j2me Nokia as phone despite making music tracks with ipod touch, ipad, roland sp404sx sampler and some other hardware, so i dont count)
Progress is cool, but i'm not gonna buy bluetooth headset instead of my 3.5mm sennheiser etc. Though, i still use my old j2me Nokia as phone despite making music tracks with ipod touch, ipad, roland sp404sx sampler and some other hardware, so i dont count)
+1
The lightning socket in my elderly iPhone 5 is as flaky as one of those waxy old cheesecakes my mum used to buy from the bakers in Basildon. It takes me at least ten minutes to get it to connect to the charger, and sometimes, like yesterday, I have to throw it on the floor a couple of times before it'll obey my command to charge.
Simply resting it onto a golden plinth will soothe this particular first world issue for me.
I have to reflect on this because one of the most 'stupid' arguments for removal of the 3,5mm jack is the inclusion of 'stereo speakers'. I mean seriously, most 'video content' is consumed with the device in landscape-mode so what use would it be to have 'stereo' on one side of the device?! With the inclusion of 4 speakers it would make sense...
I use my current iPhone as a 'pocket-memo/field-recorder' so the loss of headphone jack would be a bummer unless Apple improves the built-in microphone to match the quality of say the iRig Field Mic then I could live with Lightning headphones... (I don't have the iRig Field Mic but from intel I've gathered the headphone jack on the iRig Mic Field can not output iOS audio at all. It's purely for pre A/D monitoring thus doesn't reflect what the iOS device actually captured).
Those ones with a wiry white coating all over?
That's the ones! I haven't seen them for years, they've been taken over by a completely different type of cheesecake. Nicer, but I still miss the wax/wiry coconut version.
Also intresting to note that a lot of audio input accessoires for example IK iRig stuff renders probably worthless without an adapter (if an adapter would work with this kind of stuff that is). Which means extra $$$ for Apple, because we know Apple adapters don't come cheap.
My iRig Pro connects via the Lightning port, would this be an issue?
Unless Apple authorizes an adapter to allow you to connect two devices to the Lightning port at a time, you wouldn't be able to monitor what you're recording with the iRig Pro. Such an adapter I'd estimate to be priced within the range of current adapters.
From what I've seen and read the iRig Pro does not have a built-in headphone-jack so monitoring on an iPhone without headphone jack would be quite a challenge. (I don't count high latency BT headsets using compressed audio as proper monitoring devices).
This is similar to my case with the iRig Mic HD... (I record thru the Lightning-Port and monitor thru the headphone-jack).
@Samu many music apps don't even have Bluetooth audio out as an option. It will be interesting to see how music app developers and iOS will address this issue when the jackless iPhone is released.
I can almost make a bet that there will be a bunch of Lightning-Interfaces that will cover most needs.
Think about it, a small octopus type dongle with Line-In, Line-Out, HeadPhones, Midi In/Out all in glorious 3.5mm plugs. Add to that a few micro/usb-ports and lightning-ports, one for charging and one for other devices with a 'thick' plug that could host a high-quality AD and DA at say 24-bit/96Khz for around $50-$70...
Hmmm, yeah no monitor out from the iRig. To be honest I don't use a phone for music - that's handled by the iPad, but would be an issue if they decided to do the same there too.
If and when I would decide to get a new iPhone I would most likely be using Gadget on it anyway.
And If Input/Output is needed I could always attach my Behringer UCA-202.
When it comes to the iPhone I'm really more interested in other aspects such as 'weather-resistance'(Humidity, Heat etc.) and any improvement to the camera are allways welcome too
And you're right, if the same "Lack of 3,5mm Headphone Jack Destiny" awaits the iPad it's going to be bad.
That would on the other hand create a market for slim 'docking stations' with extra battery and ports...