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If you're so desperate to go wireless or lightning there's no need to get an iPhone 7. An iPhone 5 will do. And feel free to pour epoxy in the headphone jack.
One of the more recent rumors says they will include an adapter.
http://www.macrumors.com/2016/09/03/iphone-7-5-colors-ipx7-12mp-cameras/
+1
I'm mostly using my iPhone as a 'go everywhere' camera and hardly ever listen to music with it and when i do i stream it to airplay enabled speakers or thru my AppleTV.
When i need some quality output I connect my External DAC anyway (The quality of the headphone jack is just bleah compared to say the NuForce uDac-2).
Waterproofing and better camera are things I really do look forward to.
Look at it from the positive side, this will bloom the market for portable DACs!
I can't wait to see what cool products we'll see
If the manufactures are 'smart' the go with a more standard connection (USB-C) than focus on Lightning-port.
Also If Apple is to improve the streaming-quality of iTunes-Media they need better playback hardware.
Who knows maybe the 'apdater' they will include contains a pretty darn good DAC that is capable of 24-bit 96KHz or something...
By thursday next week everything will be clearer
Samu, don't be so damn positive;-)
I got an SE but +1
And for me I often use the phone as a music player in the car, especially on longish rides. Typically I use it to navigate at the same time. So it has to be charging while playing audio. Also I play music while biking. I really don't want to have to remember to bring a stinking adapter everywhere or remember to charge the wireless headphones. I already have to charge all 3 iOS devices and the watch and the batteries for the stupid trackpad all the time. And batteries die after a couple of years as well. Finally there's also the situation of playing guitar through my iRig HD into the phone. It would be impossible without the headphone jack.
What ever DAC solution Apple ships I hope it's also useable with computers or at least allows charging while using it.(Maybe the iPhone 7 will have wireless charging like some other brands models).
I'm really hoping we'll see a boost in compact high quality AD&DA(Line In&Out) solutions.
I mean the content in the uDAC-2 box is minimal(the volume pot is the biggest part) and the rest would fit inside a smallish ~1cm3 block...
Maybe it's a small USB-C brick with USB-C -> Lightning 'thing'.
I'm still sceptical about lossy compressed BT-Audio with all the latencies it brings...
Agree w/ what you say here and above about USB-C. Since the audio and data are split, and the DAC can reside in the end device, could reduce processing use on the iDevice. I don't know much about headphone design, but maybe better 'surround sound' tech could be built into them, while reducing processing on the iDevice.
This article about Intel's proposed support of USB-C for audio was compelling to me. They propose calling the former Jack - Connectors Control: anandtech.com/show/10273/intel-proposes-to-use-usb-typec-cables-to-connect-headsets-to-mobile-devices
Conexant has a USB-C headset Codec that does these things:
"The new CX20888 chip is specifically tailored for headsets and supports a variety of advanced features, such as a headphone amplifier, active noise cancellation, sampling rates up to 96 kHz and so on. The Conexant CX20888 is built around an ARM Cortex-M0 controller core (clocked at 50 MHz) and is equipped with two 32-bit Conexant DSPs (both clocked at 100 MHz) with floating point assist—bringing the total compute power of the DSPs to 400 MIPS—as well as 504 KB of SRAM that's shared between the M0 core and the DSPs. The CODEC also incorporates a variety of interfaces for peripherals, including two I2C master (or master + slave) interfaces, one I2S interface, one SPI, two multi-rate timers, a self wake-up timer, four monitor ADCs (to enable volume control, temperature sensor and battery monitor), two stereo PDM digital microphone interfaces, S/PDIF input and up to 28 GPIO pins."
On the downside, the standard might relegate Every manufacturer to whatever the standard is. I think it also has implications for "ripping" audio off the device.
On the upside, this may motivate headphone and speaker manufacturers to finally get Bluetooth connectivity ready for primetime.
It just struck me that I actually have a compact USB DAC (soundblaster play 2) which I use on the computer. So I had to see if it could be used alongside the iRig HD to get audio to my headphones without using the phone's integrated port. So it actually works but it's a royal PITA to set it up correctly. It also requires a powered hub and CCK, the latter alone won't power both devices. And one has to plug things in in the right order, otherwise it doesn't work. One can't start everything simultaneously. So, yeah, I just wanted to share my findings in case anyone was wondering... There are a ton of other cheap and compact USB DACs that might work as well but I only have this one. Maybe if there was one without a mic input it would be better to prevent the confusion between inputs when using the iRig.
This clearly is the better solution:
According to the BT 5 Standard - it's connectionless. Intel's above standard also has no buttons or bindings, all software.
I can already 'feel' and updated line of products from IK-Multimedia with integrated headphone jack
Think about it, iRig Keys Pro with Line-Inputs/Outputs and Headphone amp with integrated optionally powered USB-Hub to be able to attach iRig Mic HD and a few others...
It's quite sad but after I started using external DAC (Both the nuForce uDac-2 and Behringer UCA-202) with my iPad it feels like the headphones are 'broken' when connecting them to the iPads Headphone jack
It's official
...but an adaptor will be included.
Democracy failed you again, children!
Dirty dirty balls of dirty dirty men dipped in filth and shame and horror and beetle juice. That bummed.
Who will be the first company to put out a case with an integrated 3.5" jack?
Well fuck you Apple! Shame on you!
Old post and old thread, plus I only found out today about the new iphone (yeah, i try not to waste time watching news) but does this mean we won't be able to use our old cans on newest iphone? If so, then above comment doesn't make sense to me since several decades of companies working on refining their headphone sounds now have to start over because of some decision that apple made. Even if headphone jack isn't as good sonically, what about the headphones themselves?
I've had a pair of Sony 7506 and Sennheiser 280s that I've grown accustomed to and I'm not about to start learning some new inaccurate, extremely colored Beats headphone sounds. I could only imagine if I had a pair of the Sennheiser 650 headphones which cost around $500 I think. I'd probably just not upgrade at all and slowly migrate to Android
@gjcyrus There are lightning to 1/8" jack adapters (Apple includes one with the phone, and there are plenty of 3rd party ones already announced) so you can continue to use your old phones.
What I meant above is that there is the possibility that the DACs in these adapters might be higher quality than Apple's previous internal solution.
I do have to concede to Apple on this one as I no longer use the 1/8" connector in the car - my $99 receiver from crutchfield does audio from the lightning to usb on the receiver while charging, and can also do bluetooth audio. No cd player in it either. However, iPhone starts auto playing the iTunes library on your phone (including tracks in the cloud) so I had to delete any reference to itunes tracks on my phone so that I would stop hating "Achilles Last Stand" so much (from it interrupting podcasts constantly and from blasting out every time I turned the car on)