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The iTunes version of S2S substitutes a live "Stay" for the studio version. Inexplicably.
Beck... So tedious. For me, it was over after Odelay.
Are you sure about this? I just checked two sources and I don't think this is true.
It does seem to be a completely different mix or master on the Apple version though, so it does sound different, as in, like crap.
But not only are the songs in crap sound quality formats, Apple Music does an auto gain thing which likely craps all over everything too since no one really knows exactly what it does, but has at least taken some proactive measures against the "loudness war".
Good news is that this quick check proved to me that the iTunes/Apple Music versions of pretty much everything are much worse for older albums pretty much across the board. I hate to think I'll have to go digging around for early 90s CDs again like I did back in 2005.
As old CD pressings degrade, it doesn't get any easier.
me as well. It seems like when his time came, he'd just step onto a spaceship and go elsewhere.
Meant to stop by sooner. What a giant of music he was.
This is what I've been telling myself.
Also, wish I could have a drink with Brian Eno
"David's death came as a complete surprise, as did nearly everything else about him. I feel a huge gap now.
"We knew each other for over 40 years, in a friendship that was always tinged by echoes of Pete and Dud. Over the last few years - with him living in New York and me in London - our connection was by email. We signed off with invented names: some of his were mr showbiz, milton keynes, rhoda borrocks and the duke of ear.
"About a year ago we started talking about Outside - the last album we worked on together. We both liked that album a lot and felt that it had fallen through the cracks. We talked about revisiting it, taking it somewhere new. I was looking forward to that.
"I received an email from him seven days ago. It was as funny as always, and as surreal, looping through word games and allusions and all the usual stuff we did. It ended with this sentence: 'Thank you for our good times, brian. they will never rot'. And it was signed 'Dawn'.
"I realise now he was saying goodbye." -- Brian Eno
Soup Peddler on South Lamar...nicely done...
Yes, I agree. Thanks for sharing this. Watched it twice in a row and, once that ending run starts at 6:38, got serious goosebumps both times. What a glorious, anthemic tribute to a great artist by a great artist surrounded by great artists.
Oh, and it's a crime against music to NOT listen to this in headphones. The whole purpose of the 2 minute intro is to say, "HEY! You might want to go grab your headphones now ... no, no, the GOOD ones."
I could go on about how meta this is on about 36 different levels, but, just, thank you.
that's true. he was and will continue to be a very inspiring artist. RIP
Agreed. Listened to it 6 at least times so far today. That end is just... Wow.
There is also some amount of poetry in Beck doing it. His "breakthrough" single was "I'm a Loser" which was exactly what the Right Good Mr. Jones made OK ("you're an outsider? Me too! Let's be heroes together!) for so many 30 years before this recording.
Best I can suss, best eulogy for David Bowie in existence. True to form though, as a Bowie fan, I'm open to being amazed anew.
First heard of his passing on NPR, two days after hearing about the release of BLACKSTAR. I've never fully capitulated one way or the other about his place in my consideration of rock music history, but I am WELL aware of his unique place in it - I'd be a goddamned idiot if I didn't. AND... One of my old art projects was two issues of a (prematurely canceled) comic book series... it's sort of why I'm feeling this one a bit more than I might with anyone else's passing.
I just hit "play" on the track, within Apple Music, and it's a live performance. And on "Station To Station" proper.
Is one of your two "sources" actually Apple Music?
I hear you. As a guitarist, I thought I'd pretty much heard it all and knew the greats, etc. - then I heard Frank Black playing "Scary Monsters" live with Mr. Bowie and heard a guitar do things I'd never heard before. Jaw. Dropped.
Another reason this tribute is so fitting - such an avant garde collaboration, and how many great collaborations did David Bowie give us over the years, from John Lennon to Trent Reznor? Always game, that David. Loved his duet with Annie Lennox for "Under Pressure" at the Freddie Mercury tribute concert.
That is the album version, compared against the CD and an old youtube vid.
The obvious proof that the Apple Music version isn't "live", even though it was obviously recorded to sound like it was, is the fact that Bowie is harmonizing with himself through most of the song with an entirely different cadence.
If you have a different studio version to point to I'm definitely interested in hearing it.
The Apple Music Station to Station Album I'm looking at has 6 Tracks and "Stay" is the 5th track.
I'm in the US though, so maybe there is a regional thing going on?
He will be here. I don't know about "for ever and ever" but certainly on the current population of Earth's ever—it would be hard/impossible to overstate his influence on the ever most of us might see. Not just on music but he snuck in aspects and nuances of being "different" and of sexuality that we take for granted in 2016. Indeed, knowing the average age of visitors to this forum, most of us struggled, to some extent or other, with some of the things David Bowie presented in a way all of our children need not struggle. Because of David Bowie.
Interesting, Brian's reference to Pete and Dud. I'm betting most here don't know who they are. Check out Peter Cook and Dudley Moore comedy skits on YouTube. Im cracking up just imagining Brian and David riffing like them.
RIP Ziggy.
Exactly. Social change is easy to imagine once it's come to pass...
http://www.nytimes.com/live/david-bowie-in-memoriam/brian-eno-i-realize-now-he-was-saying-goodbye/?smid=fb-nytimes&smtyp=cur
I was at an amazing synth gig here in Portland last night when the word began to spread. At least I didn't have to wake up to it. Such an amazing person!
I'm saying no way. Listen to me. There is a loud, obvious crowd noise in the beginning. I'm in NY. I have the vinyl. I have the RYKO CD. I know the studio version like the back of my hand.
Unless I'm insane.
Here is a picture my friend drew. She had never seen Labyrinth and she drew this after watching it. Pretty amazing.
https://www.facebook.com/mariaartandphotography/photos/a.1657668484455392.1073741831.1644089162479991/1724321291123444/?type=3&theater
Respect to Jordan. I guess this is close to how I would play it if I could.
This guy's not bad either
Bowies DJ "set" from 1979 ...
Cool interview with director of Blackstar. (Old stuff I guess)
http://noisey.vice.com/blog/david-bowie-blackstar-video-johan-renck-director-interview
And lastly...thank you David for turning me on to these guys,
Let's just say you shouldn't be operating any heavy machinery any time soon.
Seriously, I've just listened to the Apple Music track through my Apogee One and Ath-M50x's.
Can you tell me at what time markers you are hearing "crowd noise"?
Surely we can track this down and plenty of people have access to Apple Music/iTunes.
This truly is the album version.
And like I said, I don't know that Bowie was often able to sing multiple voices in different cadences at the same time, if at all.
Another good test would be to play your Vinyl and the Apple Music version at the same time.
What you are likely hearing as "crowd noise" in the beginning is what seems like the crazy splashy roomy reverb of the guitar, but in fact is likely the resonance of the loud guitar rattling the head of a snare drum in a non-isolated live recording room.
There is no crowd.
excellent post @syrupcore!
Ditto
I'm going to ask you to close your mouth and never open it again. Regardless of what you're getting on your end, your rhetoric is obnoxious as hell. It's not cute.
Here's a quick vid of the truth.
You tell me.
The live versions always seem to have a slightly faster tempo, too.
In any case, you should learn to reel it in.
Cry me a river.
But, holy shit, how are you getting that on your end?
The unfortunate thing about this situation is that we're both right!
But what the hell is going on there? How are they giving me a different track than you? This is crazy.
I mean, it is the only Bowie Station to Station on Apple Music!
I wonder how many people are getting that wrong track.
If you go into iTunes and go to the album, do you get that same version?
I accept your apology, clown. All of your idiotic rationale in explaining how an underling might misinterpret reverb or double-tracking as "crowd noise" is hilarious, never once imagining that there's nothing special about your ear, and that you're talking to someone that knows the difference. I told you, point-blank that I knew the studio version, inside and out. But your great imagination never once entertained the idea that an iTunes hiccup might be the culprit.
You must be a real hit at work.