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Gadget vs Cubasis?

Don't own either yet, both are on sale. Advice on which to get?

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  • I'm curious too. What ya'll got/thinking?

  • Both of course

  • It's a deal, it's a steal...both...

  • edited February 2016

    Gadget has the (much) better workflow, Cubasis will let you use all your iOS synths.

    Gadget is really good at letting you create something quickly, and it's a real joy to use. The drawback is that it won't play well with others, so it's essentially a closed box. Cubasis is harder work, but less limited.

    I tend to create stuff in Gadget and then export the stems to Auria, where I can expand on what I've created without the limitations. And while Cubasis does have a very nice internal synth (Micrologue), I rarely use it since it has neither the convenience of Gadget nor the power of Auria. YMMV.

  • If you need to record audio, or both audio and midi, then you need Cubasis, as Gadget, (correct me if I'm wrong, folks,) only does midi.

  • Gadget is more of a must have in my opinion. One of the all time top apps.

  • Every time I hear Gadget, all I can think of is Inspector Gadget. lol......

  • 1 is too many, a thousand is never enough. >:)

  • @rickwaugh said:
    If you need to record audio, or both audio and midi, then you need Cubasis, as Gadget, (correct me if I'm wrong, folks,) only does midi.

    True!

    But Gadget gives you a lot of musical power for the price. The instruments in Cubasis are few, of course you can add any IAA instruments you like, but you need to own/purchase them first. Also due to the nature of IAA instruments your settings are not saved with the project in Cubasis. AU instruments are set to change that but it's still early days.

    Gadget on the other hand is full of cool instruments, with instant recall and full automation, so as a musical composition tool or scratch pad it's hard to beat, especially at the sale price.

    But as @rickwaugh says, it doesn't do audio tracks (even though they where promised at launch 2 years ago).

  • Also, Gadget is pattern based, Cubasis is linear.

    That said I always used linear DAWS and never really liked pattern based ones - until I got Gadget!!!

    The workflow in Gadget is one of the best I've ever seen.

  • I didn’t realise Cubasis didn’t have audio tracks! (Not that I’ve ever wanted to buy it, I don’t need it). That disqualifies it from being referred to as a DAW then — it’s merely a sequencer. Same as Pro Midi; Midi Pattern Sequencer and midiSequencer.

    Hm, learn something every day, then.

  • @u0421793 said:
    I didn’t realise Cubasis didn’t have audio tracks! (Not that I’ve ever wanted to buy it, I don’t need it). That disqualifies it from being referred to as a DAW then — it’s merely a sequencer. Same as Pro Midi; Midi Pattern Sequencer and midiSequencer.

    Hm, learn something every day, then.

    Cubasis has audio, gadget does not.

  • @u0421793 said:
    I didn’t realise Cubasis didn’t have audio tracks! (Not that I’ve ever wanted to buy it, I don’t need it). That disqualifies it from being referred to as a DAW then — it’s merely a sequencer. Same as Pro Midi; Midi Pattern Sequencer and midiSequencer.

    Hm, learn something every day, then.

    Cubasis does have audio tracks, it is Gadget that doesn't :/

  • I would definitely recommend you buy Gadget if you only buy one of the two.

    But if you're considering both, you should consider taking your $25 and buying Auria instead. True, it's audio only. But you can then take your Gadget tracks, convert them to audio and put them in Auria for mixing.

    And if you upgrade to Auria Pro, you can output your MIDI tracks to Auria too and use all the instruments there.

  • @Peter321 said:

    @rickwaugh said:
    If you need to record audio, or both audio and midi, then you need Cubasis, as Gadget, (correct me if I'm wrong, folks,) only does midi.

    True!

    But Gadget gives you a lot of musical power for the price. The instruments in Cubasis are few, of course you can add any IAA instruments you like, but you need to own/purchase them first. Also due to the nature of IAA instruments your settings are not saved with the project in Cubasis. AU instruments are set to change that but it's still early days.

    Gadget on the other hand is full of cool instruments, with instant recall and full automation, so as a musical composition tool or scratch pad it's hard to beat, especially at the sale price.

    But as @rickwaugh says, it doesn't do audio tracks (even though they where promised at launch 2 years ago).

    It doesn't much matter what it does, if the OP is looking to buy one, and needs audio.

  • @u0421793 said:
    I didn’t realise Cubasis didn’t have audio tracks! (Not that I’ve ever wanted to buy it, I don’t need it). That disqualifies it from being referred to as a DAW then — it’s merely a sequencer. Same as Pro Midi; Midi Pattern Sequencer and midiSequencer.

    Hm, learn something every day, then.

    What?. Cubasis does have audio tracks.

  • To me the best combo regarding audio/midi (for a easy/fast/efficient workflow on a mobile device) is gadget(with darwin and bilbao IAP) and MTdaw(harmonic dog)
    It's certainly gonna improve soon with AUM in between

  • @Reid said:
    I would definitely recommend you buy Gadget if you only buy one of the two.

    But if you're considering both, you should consider taking your $25 and buying Auria instead. True, it's audio only. But you can then take your Gadget tracks, convert them to audio and put them in Auria for mixing.

    And if you upgrade to Auria Pro, you can output your MIDI tracks to Auria too and use all the instruments there.

    Can't the audio tracks be exported the same way and brought into Cubasis? And Cubasis has MIDI tracks also.

  • @Peter321 said:

    @rickwaugh said:
    If you need to record audio, or both audio and midi, then you need Cubasis, as Gadget, (correct me if I'm wrong, folks,) only does midi.

    . The instruments in Cubasis are few

    Few??? Over 100 plus a built in synth. And a sampler. Plus as mentioned IAA app instruments.

  • The latest update doesn't have audio?

    @Bootsy said:

    @u0421793 said:
    I didn’t realise Cubasis didn’t have audio tracks! (Not that I’ve ever wanted to buy it, I don’t need it). That disqualifies it from being referred to as a DAW then — it’s merely a sequencer. Same as Pro Midi; Midi Pattern Sequencer and midiSequencer.

    Hm, learn something every day, then.

    Cubasis has audio, gadget does not.

  • None. Auria Pro instead!

  • @theconnactic said:
    None. Auria Pro instead!

    ^

  • Gadget for creating music.

    Cubasis for recording it. Or Auria or whatever if you change your mind.

  • @BiancaNeve said:

    @Peter321 said:

    @rickwaugh said:
    If you need to record audio, or both audio and midi, then you need Cubasis, as Gadget, (correct me if I'm wrong, folks,) only does midi.

    . The instruments in Cubasis are few

    Few??? Over 100 plus a built in synth. And a sampler. Plus as mentioned IAA app instruments.

    I'm not taking about presets, but actual different synths with different characteristics. Cubasis basically only have 1 synth (micrologue), a sample-player with almost no editing functions (micro sonic) and a very basic sampler (mini sampler).

    That's essentially just two different instruments even though you have many different sounds. But not much you can do with those sounds if they don't suit your need.

    Gadget has a much larger palette to work with.

  • While Auria Pro has Lyra, FabFilter One and FabFilter Twin, and these last two alone pack more power and sound possibilities than the entire Gagdet pallete. Auria Pro also have advanced audio and MIDI recording and editing, and costs normally only ten bucks more (I know this doesn't apply right now since Gadget is 50% off). On the downside, anything older than an iPad Air will have problems with more than a few instances of the Twin.

  • @Nathan said:

    @JC_vt said:
    Don't own either yet, both are on sale. Advice on which to get?

    If you have the pennies, get both. Cubasis for production, and Gadget for gadgetry.

    Very good advice I believe also!

  • I'd love to get both as well. But, enough on the plate continuing to learn Auria Pro, and Bias, and GeoShred, and everything else.

  • I have Auria, Cubasis, and Gadget.

    I use Auria the least. I'm not into hard-core mastering so PSP plugins and the like are not of interest to me. If I ever get around to releasing a full album, I'd rather send my stuff to a skilled mastering person than try to DIY in Auria/Auria Pro with all their plugins.

    Gadget has drum machines, synths, etc. to let you whip up some music. With Auria Pro you have to wire in all these external drum, synth, etc. apps. Not saying that's wrong but something to think about.

    Cubasis is sort of in between. It's got its little synth plugin and can host a limited selection of apps like iSEM. But it's really meant more for recording than whipping up some music fast, more like Auria.

  • I haven't used Cubasis in ages. If you want something more powerful, get Auria Pro. If you want something quick and easy use GarageBand. If you want something fun and different, get Gadget.

  • edited February 2016

    @GovernorSilver said:
    With Auria Pro you have to wire in all these external drum, synth, etc. apps. Not saying that's wrong but something to think about.

    This is so untrue it's not even wrong. Do you really have Auria Pro or the older, audio-only version of Auria?

    Because if you had Auria Pro, you should know it has the most powerful soft synth in iOS as of now, the Twin. You should know it also has another advanced synth, the One. You should know that these to, paired with AP built-in advanced MIDI and automation capabilities, have you covered for virtually any songwriting or recording needs. You should know this and also more: that Auria Pro has the only sample player in iOS that can handle advanced EXS libraries and also use disk streaming, being the only iOS application that can load huge (10 gb+) professional sample libraries.

    Summarizing: you should know better!

    So excuse me if I cannot believe you have the pro version of Auria: why on earth would someone fork 50 bucks in an app and care little to know even its basic features? No offense, mate.

    All the best!

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