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Gadget vs Cubasis?

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  • edited February 2016

    @theconnactic said:

    @GovernorSilver said:
    With Auria Pro you have to wire in all these external drum, synth, etc. apps. Not saying that's wrong but something to think about.

    This is so untrue it's not even wrong. Do you really have Auria Pro or the older, audio-only version of Auria?

    Because if you had Auria Pro, you should know it has the most powerful soft synth in iOS as of now, the Twin. You should know it also has another advanced synth, the One. You should know that these to, paired with AP built-in advanced MIDI and automation capabilities, have you covered for virtually any songwriting or recording needs. You should know this and also more: that Auria Pro has the only sample player in iOS that can handle advanced EXS libraries and also use disk streaming, being the only iOS application that can load huge (10 gb+) professional sample libraries.

    Summarizing: you should know better!

    So excuse me if I cannot believe you have the pro version of Auria: why on earth would someone fork 50 bucks in an app and care little to know even its basic features? No offense, mate.

    All the best!

    I'm more into straightforward, simple to use stuff. I'm not the power user type. Perhaps the OP is. If so, it should be great for him.

    BTW, the cost of Auria Pro plus all the popular plugins is in the range of desktop DAWs. OP should know that too.

    Gadget has a lot of users because you can fire it up and have a song sketched out in minutes. It's the opposite of Auria Pro in that regard.

  • edited February 2016

    I am not arguing with that. As far as I'm concerned, to each their own.

    The point is, you said you owned Auria Pro and proceeded to list shortcomings it doesn't have at all! See, it's not a matter of personal preference here, but not sharing innacurate information with the OP.

    Cubasis is not a middle point between anything, but a less capable product, while Auria Pro and Gadget are different beasts altogether.

    That said, and agreeing with @matthew, Gadget is fun and is darn cheap now: thinking on buying it (to use alongside AP for more electronic-leaning productions).

    All the best!

  • edited February 2016

    @theconnactic said:
    I am not arguing with that. As far as I'm concerned, to each their own.

    The point is, you said you owned Auria Pro and proceeded to list shortcomings it doesn't have at all!

    The message I'm trying to get across is Auria Pro and Gadget are intended for different purposes. I'm sorry you felt insulted. Well, you sound like it based on the emotional tone of your posts.

  • I'm curious regarding Cubasis, I suppose it's one of those things you have to buy to see if it suits your way of doing things. I use Gadget all the time, but it doesn't deal with audio (I know there are workarounds) too well.
    Auria Pro looks great but eats CPU on my Air2, particularly with those synths, so I'm currently using it more for mastering.

  • edited February 2016

    Yeah, app loyalty can be funny. I've had people try to convince me to use Gadget/Caustic/Nanostudio/etc in place of a proper DAW too, for multitrack audio recording.

  • @GovernorSilver said:

    @theconnactic said:
    I am not arguing with that. As far as I'm concerned, to each their own.

    The point is, you said you owned Auria Pro and proceeded to list shortcomings it doesn't have at all!

    The message I'm trying to get across is Auria Pro and Gadget are intended for different purposes. I'm sorry you felt insulted. Well, you sound like it based on the emotional tone of your posts.

    Believe me, Gov, the only thing insulted was the truth, and since now it's, uhh, rectified, I think it's all good. See, we ever agreed Auria Pro and Gadget are different beasts, so it's clear no offense is meant or made. All the best!

  • @theconnactic said:

    @GovernorSilver said:

    @theconnactic said:
    I am not arguing with that. As far as I'm concerned, to each their own.

    The point is, you said you owned Auria Pro and proceeded to list shortcomings it doesn't have at all!

    The message I'm trying to get across is Auria Pro and Gadget are intended for different purposes. I'm sorry you felt insulted. Well, you sound like it based on the emotional tone of your posts.

    Believe me, Gov, the only thing insulted was the truth, and since now it's, uhh, rectified, I think it's all good. See, we ever agreed Auria Pro and Gadget are different beasts, so it's clear no offense is meant or made. All the best!

    Cool. I'm getting more of an "animated discussion over drinks at the pub" kind of vibe from you now than a serious argument. Cheers!

  • @Igneous1 said:
    I'm curious regarding Cubasis, I suppose it's one of those things you have to buy to see if it suits your way of doing things. I use Gadget all the time, but it doesn't deal with audio (I know there are workarounds) too well.
    Auria Pro looks great but eats CPU on my Air2, particularly with those synths, so I'm currently using it more for mastering.

    I have an Air 1 and use it daily with little hiccups even with large projects (20+ tracks, but I confess mostly Lyra instances, and each Twin track is promptly bounced as soon as it's done).

    How many instances of Twin you attempted to run side by side?

  • Cubasis is awesome - well worth considering. Gadget is a great sound source but I prefer Cubasis for recording/sequencing

  • I have Cubasis, gadget and Auria. I use Cubasis most and Auria. I still have to learn to do patterns.

  • @Tones4Christ said:
    I have Cubasis, gadget and Auria. I use Cubasis most and Auria. I still have to learn to do patterns.

    I have Cubasis, Gadget, Nanostudio and Caustic - I only use Gadget these days (except for when I need to add audio tracks - then I add them in Cubasis) - to each his own I guess :wink:

    All apps are great, it really comes down to your personal preference. I didn't like pattern based composing until I got Gadget (I bought Cubasis way before Gadget). But, the Gadget workflow just clicked with me together with the big palette of sounds that can can be easily recorded and automated.

    You can make music in all the apps, it's just a matter of what inspires you the most (and if you need to record audio tracks you need something besides Gadget).

  • I just wish it was 'smoother' to copy audio from Gadget to Cubasis.

    Imagine pressing 'Function' in Gadget and every scene, track and pattern would automagically get an extra 'button' called 'Copy/Save as Audio to iCliud Drive' with an option for 'Open In...'. Ths would also allow quick 'Resampling' of scenes for use in Bilbao or AbuDhabi or maybe a future Sampler Gadget :)

  • @theconnactic said:

    @Igneous1 said:
    I'm curious regarding Cubasis, I suppose it's one of those things you have to buy to see if it suits your way of doing things. I use Gadget all the time, but it doesn't deal with audio (I know there are workarounds) too well.
    Auria Pro looks great but eats CPU on my Air2, particularly with those synths, so I'm currently using it more for mastering.

    I have an Air 1 and use it daily with little hiccups even with large projects (20+ tracks, but I confess mostly Lyra instances, and each Twin track is promptly bounced as soon as it's done).

    How many instances of Twin you attempted to run side by side?

    Tried with 4 instances last night - cpu overload pop-up and approx 60 % cpu on the meter.

  • I specifically bought an Air2 128gb lately for Auria Pro and have had a couple crashes even before things got very complicated. I am now using Cubasis more, mainly because I don't like having to go to drop down menus for creating a new track, then another menu to check the input matrix, then another to check if the audiobus record monitor is on, stuff like that. I realize it's good to have all those type options, I just wish it was somehow laid out in a more intuitive way. Auria reminds me of those synths that you see dudes plugging and re-plugging 100 wires in all over the synth. I guess I'm more of a play the keyboard and maybe turn a knob or two person.

  • @NoiseHorse said:
    I specifically bought an Air2 128gb lately for Auria Pro and have had a couple crashes even before things got very complicated. I am now using Cubasis more, mainly because I don't like having to go to drop down menus for creating a new track, then another menu to check the input matrix, then another to check if the audiobus record monitor is on, stuff like that. I realize it's good to have all those type options, I just wish it was somehow laid out in a more intuitive way. Auria reminds me of those synths that you see dudes plugging and re-plugging 100 wires in all over the synth. I guess I'm more of a play the keyboard and maybe turn a knob or two person.

    Exactly this. The problem with these discussions is that people fixate on the quantity and range of features when unquantifiable aspects of the app like usability can make a massive difference to your workflow.

  • @Jocphone said:
    Exactly this. The problem with these discussions is that people fixate on the quantity and range of features when unquantifiable aspects of the app like usability can make a massive difference to your workflow.

    It's natural for people to have different preferences though, because of different priorities and different ways of working. It would be impossible for Auria to have the breadth of features it has and make them all equally accessible, so it's not possible to please everyone equally.

    Rim is going to implement a customisable toolbar, so that the user can choose which functions are exposed. However even this could be argued as being "too much choice" if you are so minded :)

    The truth is that Auria can do a lot more stuff than Cubasis, but that is both a blessing and a curse. For me Cubasis is just too limited as a mixing environment to be worthwhile, I can create far more complex projects in Auria with a lot more fine control, but of course this power does come at a cost, namely simplicity. Horses for courses.

  • @Igneous1 said:

    @theconnactic said:

    @Igneous1 said:
    I'm curious regarding Cubasis, I suppose it's one of those things you have to buy to see if it suits your way of doing things. I use Gadget all the time, but it doesn't deal with audio (I know there are workarounds) too well.
    Auria Pro looks great but eats CPU on my Air2, particularly with those synths, so I'm currently using it more for mastering.

    I have an Air 1 and use it daily with little hiccups even with large projects (20+ tracks, but I confess mostly Lyra instances, and each Twin track is promptly bounced as soon as it's done).

    How many instances of Twin you attempted to run side by side?

    Tried with 4 instances last night - cpu overload pop-up and approx 60 % cpu on the meter.

    There was any clicks or pops, or even playback/recording interruption, or only the pop-up warning and the high CPU metering?

  • @Jocphone said:

    Exactly this. The problem with these discussions is that people fixate on the quantity and range of features when unquantifiable aspects of the app like usability can make a massive difference to your workflow.

    Yeah, like hitting undo without destroying your entire project, something you cannot do with Cubasis. :smiley: :p

  • @richardyot said:

    @Jocphone said:
    Exactly this. The problem with these discussions is that people fixate on the quantity and range of features when unquantifiable aspects of the app like usability can make a massive difference to your workflow.

    It's natural for people to have different preferences though, because of different priorities and different ways of working. It would be impossible for Auria to have the breadth of features it has and make them all equally accessible, so it's not possible to please everyone equally.

    Rim is going to implement a customisable toolbar, so that the user can choose which functions are exposed. However even this could be argued as being "too much choice" if you are so minded :)

    The truth is that Auria can do a lot more stuff than Cubasis, but that is both a blessing and a curse. For me Cubasis is just too limited as a mixing environment to be worthwhile, I can create far more complex projects in Auria with a lot more fine control, but of course this power does come at a cost, namely simplicity. Horses for courses.

    Of course this is also true but I was merely mentioning that online arguments over features x, y & z often skew the arguments when a coherent interface can make using a piece of software worthwhile. I'm no stranger to complexity, it's just I feel more comfortable in certain types of UI.

  • @richardyot said:
    The truth is that Auria can do a lot more stuff than Cubasis, but that is both a blessing and a curse. For me Cubasis is just too limited as a mixing environment to be worthwhile, I can create far more complex projects in Auria with a lot more fine control, but of course this power does come at a cost, namely simplicity. Horses for courses.

    Exactly this. Using an analogy with the Desktop environment: some people don't need or want to Logic Pro X: for those, Audacity perhaps would do. Their loss!

  • @theconnactic said:

    @Jocphone said:

    Exactly this. The problem with these discussions is that people fixate on the quantity and range of features when unquantifiable aspects of the app like usability can make a massive difference to your workflow.

    Yeah, like hitting undo without destroying your entire project, something you cannot do with Cubasis. :smiley: :p

    Lars from Steinberg ( @LFS ) has asked for your assistance in dealing with this defect twice already. The ball is in your (and other peoples affected by this defect) court.

  • @Jocphone said:
    I'm no stranger to complexity, it's just I feel more comfortable in certain types of UI.

    Sunvox for example ;)

  • @richardyot said:

    @Jocphone said:
    I'm no stranger to complexity, it's just I feel more comfortable in certain types of UI.

    Sunvox for example ;)

    Yeah, SunVox is super simple.

  • edited February 2016

    Does it have undo though?

    (I'm just ribbing you, you know that right?)

  • I really like Sunvox, though it looks simple, it's really deep.

  • @Tones4Christ said:
    I really like Sunvox, though it looks simple, it's really deep.

    Thread successfully derailed. Now follows a four-page discussion on SunVox :)

  • @richardyot said:
    Does it have undo though?

    (I'm just ribbing you, you know that right?)

    Lol!

  • All roads lead to Sunvox.

  • @richardyot said:
    Does it have undo though?

    It does. But I don't use it :wink:

    (I'm just ribbing you, you know that right?)

    Every jibe cuts me to the quick.

  • @richardyot said:

    @Tones4Christ said:
    I really like Sunvox, though it looks simple, it's really deep.

    Thread successfully derailed. Now follows a four-page discussion on SunVox :)

    Lol! Well done!

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