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About value I was just making a fast comparison of "what if I wanted Auria in a desktop" for my own amusement and these are the results
Channel strip:
Dynamics would likely compared to the mixpack2, $199.00(it packs some more things but plugins aren't available separately)
eq: ConsoleQ, $59.00(I bet it is exactly that)
EasyVerb, $59.00
Chorus and delay are tailored just for Auria so there is no comparison but let's say $59.00 for both altogether
Plus daw of your choice which could be down to free one which are good
I'm more convinced that AP is a hell of a deal
The channel strip is made by PSP, I presume it's custom designed for Auria.
And don't forget the two Fabfilter synths that come free with Auria Pro, desktop price of over $200.
I forgot
Yep, when we consider the FF synths, it's almost unbelievable!
And I've said this before. New features be damned. Changes to workflow be damned. Would love to see a few months of bug crushing, stability building, resource usage reduction (if possible - it's a crazy complex app.) Not that it's falling down all over the place on me, but I think that would be best for the product, and it's future success. And I'd love to get some IAPs of more sound bundles. That would be a great addition.
@rickwaugh Rim is currently doing just that: bug-fixing and working on stability.
Auria is impressive for what it tries to do on the iOS platform. It's not so elegantly laid out, lots of stuff crammed in, bloated, and a resource hog. Better than it used to be, but still overly ambitious I think. Maybe it's more usable on an iPad Pro? Certainly sketchy, but usable on the iPad Air2. Can't imagine even trying on anything less. Just too bloated.
It's getting better... just not there yet.
And, if you want to compare value pricing for what stuff costs on the desktop, what about Logic Pro X? It's comes with TONs of very high quality synths, sophisticated drums, a fee iPad app controller, full-featured DAW, decent way to roundtrip video/audio between Logic Pro X and FinalCutProX, stable, runs on entry level gear, etc.
LogicProX costs $199, but it offers more than 10 times what AP does. By that "logic" Auria Pro should be closer to $20
Not of you factor the total cost in, Logic Pro needs a Mac to run on.
Ipad + Auria is cheaper than Mac + Logic Pro. Maybe if you already own a Mac it's less of an issue, but I don't.
I've used Auria extensively for the last 2.5 years, starting with an iPad 2, then an iPad 4, and now an Air 2. I don't think it's too ambitious, personally I'm very grateful for the power on offer. I use it to record real projects, and for me it works pretty damn well, and the price for the total package (including the IAP plugins) is considerably cheaper than the desktop alternative.
As for the UI, every UI has to make compromises. I think AUM looks sexy as hell, but truth be told once you have more than 4 channels on screen Auria works better, precisely because it crams more stuff in.
There's plenty of things that can be improved in Auria (on-screen keyboard, I'm looking at you), but it's without doubt the most powerful DAW on iOS. I think the arrival of AUM is interesting though, because it's a different paradigm, and for some specific situations it's a better solution than Auria, especially for live playing. It's got a very elegant way of dealing with IAA, and a lovely modular interface and I'm very interested to see how it develops.
To be completely fair... if I hadn't bought the original for $50 and the video add-on $5.... then wasn't really able to use it much due to crashes and freezes for the last couple of years... and I was JUST NOW buying Auria Pro at $49, I'd be content. It runs much better now on current hardware than it did when I purchased.
And of what I've seen, with my lower-end skill level... I'd again select it if I needed a full-featured iOS DAW.
That being said... I agree that the developer could take some cues from AUM's magnificent minimalist design. I have to wonder how much of Auria's bloat comes from the graphics. It's pretty and all, but I bet it'd be much more solid if a more minimalist approach to the look were taken.
I'd agree with @rickwaugh and others that bug crushing and stability should be first on this list. +1
Honestly, with AUM... AP is more than I really need. All I want to is be able to do some basic editing, fades, compression, etc. Most of that I can even do in AudioShare. Then, I only need something to compile the pieces in, and I can easily do all of that in GarageBand and/or DAW Multitrack. So, at the end of the day... I'm not likely the target audience for something like Auria Pro anyway. There are too many other, lighter weight alternatives to get to what I want.
One thing I was interested in using AP for, was it's video add-on. At the time, there weren't really iOS apps that let you view your reference video while you play around in-sync with your audio tracks. That's what originally attracted me to AP, but now there are several video apps with increasingly better multitrack audio editing built in.
I've been happy using Auria since the iPad 1 days. Love the elegant layout. The attractiveness of the skeuomorphism is one of the reasons I was drawn to Auria in the first place, but on top of that it had fantastic out-of-the-box utility. Great native performance of the audio engine ever since it was first released.
Yes, now, latterly, after the recent addition of MIDI, using multiple tracks of MIDI is hampered by the iOS requirement of using 512 buffers, and, using multiple Fabfilter plugins can tax the iPad too. However, there are ways to address both, and folks have been happily doing so. (esp. plugins - track freeze etc.) for a good while.
Teething issues with MIDI are being addressed. Rim continues to work on and roll out other improvements (and bug fixes etc. where needed). The best just keeps getting better!
@skiphunt, I like AUM's design as well, but it's not what Auria is. It's a piece in the middle, a mixer/router Auria's "bloat" comes from the fact that it is indeed a full fledged DAW, with all the bells and whistles that come with that. AUM is a routing tool, and a way for me to do quick recordings on the phone. To get everything you'd need to match up with Auria, you'd not only spend a lot of money, but I'm not sure what the workflow would look like - you'd be into a lot of apps.
You're not going to remove clutter from Auria without removing functions - throughout the beta, various people kept asking for more on the screen, and Rim kept turning down requests, because there is so much going on already.
I'll take that back about the design attributing to "bloat". I was wrong. Just relaunched since I haven't had it open in awhile. RIM actually did do a good job of minimizing the graphics everywhere they could. I'm not a fan of the white text on dark grey/black. It looks cool and won't produce unwanted glare in a dark room or suite... but I think a small "wish list" item would be to allow the user a few other layout options that may be easier to read on a small screen. It's not bad, but I'd like to see 3-4 extra basic changes in the layout look to choose from. Nothing radical though.
13 - independent or at least partially independent color coding between tracks and regions, so it's possible e.g.: to mark a given region for correction or other editions.
I use Logic and recently bought Auria Pro. When I bought a Mac, it wasn't really for music except in small part to dink around with Garageband. Logic 9 caught my eye. I skipped GB altogether and went straight to Logic because it was so cheap compared to the other big DAWs. It took that cost incentive to really get me into computer-based music, and I'm glad I did.
Logic 9 was a super bargain, and it's only gotten better with X. Just Alchemy alone is worth more than $200, and it's just one of a long list of software instruments included. Logic comes with tons of content. As a DAW, the depth of sophisticated features is pretty awesome. It has its share of bugs and gotchas, but Apple keeps updating and fixing. So it's an unfair comparison, but compared to Logic X, every iPad app should cost no more than a buck.
Logic is hands down the best DAW of the market, value-wise.