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FieldScraper vs Dedalus Delay Audio Mangler?
Hi,
I'm fairly new to iOS sound design, etc. I've dabbled off an on, but only attempting to go deeper recently.
Not a musician and have no inclination or skill for melody, but I am interested in playing around with soundtracks and strange soundscapes to score video/film/still/motion "art" pieces.
I normally prefer to only buy universal apps, and because the latest GarageBand looks fairly impressive (wondering why I bought LogicPro X now) I'd like any app to support both AudioBus and Inter-App audio. Not sure if I care so much about Ableton Link at the moment, but I can see how it's a plus.
I've got a few apps in the arsenal already, but looking to expand.
Based on some of the demos, it looks like the new Fieldscraper and Dedalus Delay Audio Mangler apps check all the boxes. Unfortunately it looks like I'm catching both of these just after they've been onsale. Hate that. 
Anyway... I'm not serious enough to invest tons of $$$ in apps quite yet. Looking at each, it appears they do somewhat similar things. Given what I'd like to try and do, which one would be a better fit? Keep in mind I'm not a sound engineer. 
I know many will say just buy both, but if you could only have one, which would it be?
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Dedalus is more a FX than a standalone instrument, therefore I'd pick fieldscaper first
On the other hand, dedalus and apefilter is right now one of my favorite fx combination (since they are linked)
I only have FieldScaper but I do like the fact that it's possible to process three sounds at the same time and even with just one channel it's possible to create quite large and long soundscapes from simple sounds like a finger-snap
@skiphunt if you want to use just a few apps, you might want to find apps with more sound manipulation options. FieldScaper has more options whereas Dedalus focuses on delay. Since you're interested in Dedalus, it'd be worthwhile to look into the other Amazing Noises, apeSoft, and SugarBytes (Turnado has a wide range of effects) apps. Both are capable of radically transforming your sounds for creating soundscapes. Link can definitely be useful in what you're trying to accomplish as sync'd effects can work well for soundscapes.
There are videos and reviews online for these apps and they might give you a better sense of whether or not they'll meet your needs.
I like the idea of using Dedalus linked to apefilter, etc. I've played around a little bit and I'm starting to see the benefit.
I've looked at several demo videos and it looks like, if I'm only getting one, Fieldscraper might be the one. But, if I were to also get Dedalus + something like Apefilter... would that be starting to get redundant? I already picked up Fingerlabs DFX Digital Multi FX which is also focuses mostly on delay, correct?
Thanks for the "feedback"! pun intended
Bet that one hasn't been used here before. lol
Have you looked at Samplr?
@skiphunt you might want to spend some time working with the apps you currently have as this might give you more insight into future app purchases that are appropriate for you. DFX has a wide range of effects other than delay, exploring all it's options and experimenting around with it could let you know what sorts of effects you find useful or what is still needed.
Redundancy can very much depend upon the person using the apps.
The developer of the Muckraker app has a couple of others that are free too so you could add them to your collection.
I've got Samplr and LOVE it! Also Sector and all of the Kymatica filters (AUFX: Space/Dub/PeakQ/Push + Audioshare & Oscillator
I've got Orphion (only the iPhone version that I also use on the iPad)
MiMix, Propellerhead, Gestrument, LoopyHD, NodeBeat, Animo, Nanologue, SP Link Edition, Samplr, Final Touch, Echo Pad, Mixtikl 6, Auxy, Filtatron, DFX
AudioBus, DAW Multitrack, GarageBand + Auria (not LE but not Pro)
@Paul Yes, that's what I'm going to do soon... that's why I'm trying to limit it to just 1 or 2 more. I'm a photographer and have been for a long, long time. Back before digital. And I see new photographers think they have to go buy all of this stuff that the blogs, forums, enthusiasts, etc. say they can't produce decent work unless they buy all this stuff. Same for image editing apps.
When the truth is, all you need is very little and some creativity to do amazing work. I personally think the most creative work comes from limited resources.
That being said, it seems many of my apps are targeted for musicians. I'm not a musician. Wasn't born with that skill set. But, I do think I could manage some interesting soundscapes for mood, or to soundtrack artistic motion visuals.
Both (I'm not the best advocate for moderation or restraint)
I'm not the biggest fan of Flux:FX, but it may be worth checking out for your needs.
Not really, it's pretty capable sound-scape generator.(Check the presets).
If you put some of the 'oscillator types' (Instrument & Pulse categories) in the first square, feed them into wave shaper, then into some other effects and put the 'spheres' into motion DFX will be capable of pretty weird soundscapes. It's one of the apps I really should use more
@skiphunt
Based on your OP I'd say FieldScaper. And then AUFX reverb and delay. Those alone will take you to some strange places.
Don't forget the free and cheap. Frobulator et al. Flora apps
Good point!
FieldScaper is an incredible mangler and um "scape" maker... You can do ton with very little and it was just updated... If you use a controller all the parameters are controllable and it can get real crazy real fast or real crazy real slow if you want...
Also as mentioned above you should check out the free apps from Matthew Caldwell, Frobulator, Muckracker, and Nevulizer... They are all excellent for sound sculpting...
Grabbed the 3 free Matthew Caldwell apps... but what are "Flora Apps"?
Thanks everyone for the suggestions. Might just take the time to dive deeper into what I already have.
I think Fieldscraper is what I'm after, but since the SXSW Interactive/Music/Film fest is happening in about 3 weeks... when a lot of developers run sales... maybe I'll just hold off. Fieldscraper is $8.99 now. How much was it when it was onsale?
@Samu you can feed different stuff into EACH of those squares?! Didn't know that... just bought it a couple days ago and like it, but haven't spent much time with it yet.
@JeffChasteen Saw Flux:FX at SXSW last year (I'm in Austin) went on a traded Platinum badge. Played with Flux a little bit, but had assumed it was targeted more as FX for guitarists. Will give it another look.
Yes the Flora apps
The Flora apps are Dahlia Delay, Cactus Chorus, Buttercup Bitcrush etc by Timothy Barraclough
Phlox Phaser by Timothy Barraclough
https://appsto.re/gb/wtde7.i
thx!
Not that you need more apps, but I can vouch for using synths for soundscapes and sound design iVSC3 (if you've got a pad) and Mitosynth or Grain Science. Both can take a sample and turn it into something else.
Also if you consider going this route of sample synthesis using a app like midiLFOs or TC-Orbiter to manipulate the CC parameters in interesting tandem ways.
Also drone and noise apps DrOHM(off the bus
) and BeepBoop and megaCurtis
I'm in Austin too, Clarksville... Holla if you want to see FS in action...
Cool! snagged BeepBoop off the bat since it's free
and added Grain Science to wish list since it's ipad/iphone.
@Cassetteur groovy! might take you up on that. What part of Austin? I'm up near the Arboretum area
No, no, no, none of you visual artists from up there in the frozen North
(Just being a parochial South Austin snob is all )......as it happens I am a big FLUX lover. Mister @Cassetteur and I are due to meet for the first time soon and trade deranged soundscape methods, but with you within in shouting distance perhaps we need to get a Collective going...
Also don't forget Stria, DubFilter, GliderVerb, SpaceVibe, Voicerack, Sparkle and many more
I'm down with that! With the weather getting nice.. and the fact my motorcycle has now had all it's maintenance for the season... don't mind riding halfway... as long as I don't get caught trying to get there or home during crush hour
Ended up getting Fieldscraper and LOVE, LOVE, LOVE it!
I didn't know that I could have 3 recorded feeds all feeding into 3 separate OSC "scrapers" and control levels between each into one mix.
You can even edit, cut & paste clips within your "scraped" recording. Very cool.
It plays well with AUM too and you can load it as an effect with instruments recorded and scraped within AUM.
Really... a HELL of a lot of fun. Thanks for the recommendations and advice.
A great free one (as well as Matthew Caldwells) if you do not have it is Samvada
Dubfilter, another free monster app.
I love Dedulus, for ANY kind of audio coming thru. Thats just me.
Igors apps are more for individual sound processing and less effect type usage for my work.
Thanks! Grabbed Samvada (already had the Flora stuff) Samvada is cool, but it seems like it's behaving weird in AUM. Definitely some cools sounds though.
Grabbing Dubfilter. Thanks! I'll likely get Dedulus too, and pair it with apeFilter... iDensity too... but I just didn't want to fall any deeper into the obsessive "gotta buy another app" rabbit hole, when I haven't exhausted the possibilities of the several apps I already have. Just wanted one good one to start off with, and Fieldscraper is going to take awhile to exhaust the possibilities from.
To be honest... I'd like to make myself just get fully immersed in Samplr for at least a week or so, because I suspect the possibilities there go much deeper than I can currently wrap my head around.
I'm not generally a soundscape person, but I picked FieldScaper last night, and I'm very impressed with my initial attempts!! Pretty cool!!