Photography thread [Used to be: "What is the level of civility of the Audiobus forum?"]

MusicInclusive

Generally? Good. Friendly. Helpful. Civil.

I agree with the posts that ask - "compared to what?" If it's self-referential, well, it's had its ups and downs over time, but the downs have really been very few IMO, and usually dealt with readily enough.

Keep smiling everyone

[Deleted User]

It's funny, I have an overwhelming urge to disrail this thread with talk of apps

u0421793

@Samu said:

I know from experience (10 or so years a go i moderated a Nikon forum)

My F4 finally died a few years ago. Shutter completely destroyed itself in a spectacular ball of twisted black blades, not long after I discovered the pentaprism hot shoe was also dead. Maybe those things weren’t as weatherproof as I’d assumed over the decades I’d shot with it out in the rain. Still, it left me with the legacy lenses and flashguns that mean I’m still significantly Nikon in digital now (although increasingly more Sony — RX10!).

BiancaNeve

Nostalgia isn't what it used to be.

[Deleted User]

@u0421793 said:

@Samu said:

I know from experience (10 or so years a go i moderated a Nikon forum)

My F4 finally died a few years ago. Shutter completely destroyed itself in a spectacular ball of twisted black blades, not long after I discovered the pentaprism hot shoe was also dead. Maybe those things weren’t as weatherproof as I’d assumed over the decades I’d shot with it out in the rain. Still, it left me with the legacy lenses and flashguns that mean I’m still significantly Nikon in digital now (although increasingly more Sony — RX10!).

I dreamed of an F4 when i did photography at university. I did eventually get an F3 hp. Never had a camera made so well since.

u0421793

@Fruitbat1919 said:

@u0421793 said:

@Samu said:

I know from experience (10 or so years a go i moderated a Nikon forum)

My F4 finally died a few years ago. Shutter completely destroyed itself in a spectacular ball of twisted black blades, not long after I discovered the pentaprism hot shoe was also dead. Maybe those things weren’t as weatherproof as I’d assumed over the decades I’d shot with it out in the rain. Still, it left me with the legacy lenses and flashguns that mean I’m still significantly Nikon in digital now (although increasingly more Sony — RX10!).

I dreamed of an F4 when i did photography at university. I did eventually get an F3 hp. Never had a camera made so well since.

Well, up in the attic (with the synths I can’t bring down — married) is my Mamiya C330 and five lenses, and a surprisingly not bad Bronica ETRSi — the PE 75 lens reminds me of the micro sharpness of the Carl Zeiss 80mm I used to use on a Hasselblad that belonged to where I worked when I was a photographer after I left college. But, I should sell it. I doubt I’ll sell the C330, it’s too battered about and too much “mine”, even though I doubt I’ll shoot another frame of film again (got some up there, and chemicals, but stopped shooting film in 2013 when I bought a little Fuji X10 and realised I’d probably never go back to film again).

johnfromberkeley

@Fruitbat1919 said:

@funjunkie27 said:
Better before I joined.

I agree

Only joking.....beat me to my answer

screw both you guys! that's MY answer.

skiphunt

@Fruitbat1919 said:

@u0421793 said:

@Samu said:

I know from experience (10 or so years a go i moderated a Nikon forum)

My F4 finally died a few years ago. Shutter completely destroyed itself in a spectacular ball of twisted black blades, not long after I discovered the pentaprism hot shoe was also dead. Maybe those things weren’t as weatherproof as I’d assumed over the decades I’d shot with it out in the rain. Still, it left me with the legacy lenses and flashguns that mean I’m still significantly Nikon in digital now (although increasingly more Sony — RX10!).

I dreamed of an F4 when i did photography at university. I did eventually get an F3 hp. Never had a camera made so well since.

Regarding the Sony - RX10... I went with the Panasonic FZ1000 for travel. Really stellar for travel, especially that stabilized 400mm that goes up to nearly 700mm in 4k video mode. I've banged it all over the Yucatan of Mexico for weeks, then more recently all over Bolivia and parts of Peru. Still going strong.

Nikon F4? Holy smokes!, that reminds me... I think I still have a Nikon FM2 with motor drive in the closet with half an unfinished roll of Fuji Velvia I was shooting in Thailand. Bet that acetate is all jelly by now.

What were we talking about again? lol

funjunkie27

@u0421793 - I wonder if our records will contain much evidence of civility. And thanks for that detailed breakdown!

funjunkie27

@johnfromberkeley and @Fruitbat1919 - we can share. We're all deserving.

Sebastian

@lala said:
“I'd never join a club that would allow a person like me to become a member.”

!!

Frank

I think we should ask our Mom's or Girlfriend's permission before we hit Post
Love to all

[Deleted User]

@u0421793 said:

@Fruitbat1919 said:

@u0421793 said:

@Samu said:

I know from experience (10 or so years a go i moderated a Nikon forum)

My F4 finally died a few years ago. Shutter completely destroyed itself in a spectacular ball of twisted black blades, not long after I discovered the pentaprism hot shoe was also dead. Maybe those things weren’t as weatherproof as I’d assumed over the decades I’d shot with it out in the rain. Still, it left me with the legacy lenses and flashguns that mean I’m still significantly Nikon in digital now (although increasingly more Sony — RX10!).

I dreamed of an F4 when i did photography at university. I did eventually get an F3 hp. Never had a camera made so well since.

Well, up in the attic (with the synths I can’t bring down — married) is my Mamiya C330 and five lenses, and a surprisingly not bad Bronica ETRSi — the PE 75 lens reminds me of the micro sharpness of the Carl Zeiss 80mm I used to use on a Hasselblad that belonged to where I worked when I was a photographer after I left college. But, I should sell it. I doubt I’ll sell the C330, it’s too battered about and too much “mine”, even though I doubt I’ll shoot another frame of film again (got some up there, and chemicals, but stopped shooting film in 2013 when I bought a little Fuji X10 and realised I’d probably never go back to film again).

I worked in a camera shop for a fair few years before my nurses training. I used to have so much fun with the medium format cameras that people were selling cheap to buy digital.

Love the C330 and the Mamiya 7 6x7 camera.

[Deleted User]

@Sebastian said:

@lala said:
“I'd never join a club that would allow a person like me to become a member.”

!!

Woody Allen

[Deleted User]

@funjunkie27 said:
@johnfromberkeley and @Fruitbat1919 - we can share. We're all deserving.

Ok, I'll have mon to wed

JohnnyGoodyear

While I believe in the accepted precepts of the 'Lifecycle of Online Communities', to date -and in my experience- this is one of best, most useful and generally most constructive Internet forums.

I am also a member of entirely different group which meets twice a year in person and has been very successful for many different reasons. One of which is probably that at the start of every meeting (they last for three days) legal counsel retained by the group stands up and talks for a few minutes about free speech and fraternity, but then advises folks that they must be no collective talk of pricing. This works well. Some people don't like it. The meetings are probably not for them.

The reason, more than any other, that this forum works well is that there has been to date -mostly- a sense of mutual respect, if not to say kindness. While that remains, so will I.

BiancaNeve

@Fruitbat1919 said:

@Sebastian said:

@lala said:
“I'd never join a club that would allow a person like me to become a member.”

!!

Woody Allen

I thought it was Groucho Marx

http://i0.wp.com/www.teargasandgumdrops.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/groucho-marx-quotes-009.jpg?resize=450,350

ErrkaPetti

@Sebastian said:
I really don't see the point of this thread if you're not saying what you are comparing it to.
And even if that was the case, what is there to be done for those who think it is less than... whatever it is compared to.

If you're encountering an issue with someone or something, report it by contacting me. Polls like this only create drama where none exists in the first place.

+1

richardyot

All good then

Now we can argue about cameras. I was always a Canon man myself.

[Deleted User]

@richardyot said:
All good then

Now we can argue about cameras. I was always a Canon man myself.

Quick lynch him!

[Deleted User]

@BiancaNeve said:

@Fruitbat1919 said:

@Sebastian said:

@lala said:
“I'd never join a club that would allow a person like me to become a member.”

!!

Woody Allen

I thought it was Groucho Marx

http://i0.wp.com/www.teargasandgumdrops.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/groucho-marx-quotes-009.jpg?resize=450,350

its woddy allen remembering groucho marx ...

this is so old, but it still makes me laugh my ass off

NoiseHorse

And thank God the Chinese invented toilet paper! Right stuff in the right place.

lovadamusic

@u0421793 said:

@funjunkie27 said:
@u0421793 - I would love to get your take as compared to the PreCambrian era.

The fossil record doesn’t contain much evidence of civility. If we go further back, we may find that life forms evolved that were able to consume other life forms. This would have been in the water. The means of consumption would by process of selection favour the “front” of the organism, given a dominant direction of movement.

Later, sensory organs would evolve, again, around the “front” end where the mouth is. The senses would have been weak electrical and chemical, and much later, small areas skin would develop photosensitivity, and transparency and evolve into rudimentary lenses and sensors (which has happened over and over — it’s an available pattern).

Given that there’s limited visibility at most depths underwater, visibility would be limited to the quite near range, yet offer some advantage to no visibility at all. It was at this point that evaluation of perception would evolve, and response to that evaluation would also evolve.

The most granular and fundamental response to sensory evaluation is a binary one — whether to act, or not. A fixed or other inanimate lifeform such as a plant, with almost no mobility in response to senses and limited evaluation, could not choose to act or not act, but the evolution of a sensory system that linked perception to action, could. Again, this is an advantage.

The next most sophisticated level of response, given the binary choice of “act”, is how to act. Typically, this would be go toward the perceived stimuli, go away from it, or go round it (lefty-forwards, or righty-forwards). If you wish to eat it or have sex with it, go toward it. If it will eat you, go away from it. If it presents no threat or opportunity but is in the way, go around it. Choose whether to go this way round it, or the other way round it.

And that ladies and gentlemen brings us up to the present day, which is as far as we’ve got with this sophistication thing.

Excellent. Even in what appeared to be a useless (though provocative) thread, there may always be something interesting to learn. Though the question remains. Have things gotten better?

studs1966

@richardyot said:
All good then

Now we can argue about cameras. I was always a Canon man myself.

Great stuff......... Me too. Still got my trusty Canon D20.......

studs1966

Lol.....msometimes when this forum gets a bit over & excitably the top, it always reminds me of Monty Pythons....... " I've come here for an Argument" sketch....... ........ Oh know I didn't,........... Oh yes you did!.........

fjcblanco

We have to consider that many members are pro musicians, some devs (pros as well), worldwide people (which means this place is the true definition of the greek word "forum"), many of us are adult people (I mean, over 40 years or so, 50 in my case)...

Actually, I'm surprised (and disturbed) when one discussion becomes crazy.

So I understand the point of Sebastian.

Just only share my opinion.

JohnnyGoodyear

Angry man: WHADDAYOU WANT?

Man: Well, Well, I was told outside that...

Angry man: DON'T GIVE ME THAT, YOU SNOTTY-FACED HEAP OF PARROT DROPPINGS!

Man: What?

A: SHUT YOUR FESTERING GOB, YOU TIT! YOUR TYPE MAKES ME PUKE!

YOU VACUOUS STUFFY-NOSED MALODOROUS PERVERT!!!

M: Yes, but I came here for an argument!!

A: OH! Oh! I'm sorry! This is abuse!

M: Oh! Oh I see!

A: Aha! No, you want room 12A, next door.

M: Oh...Sorry...

A: Not at all!

A: (under his breath) stupid git.

boone51

There isnt a more civil forum on the internet. Folks disagree. Sometimes passionately, and sometimes they get personal. But this is to be expected of any group with diverse backgrounds that have a passion for what they do. For the most part, they usually still end with a civil tone. There are some exceptions, but overall, I’ve never experienced a more civil forum. Anywhere.

studs1966

u0421793

@Nathan said:

@richardyot said:
All good then

Now we can argue about cameras. I was always a Canon man myself.

At the (small) risk it getting jumped on, Canon was too expensive. But, I'm very pleased with my Sony A5100 set up.

Very good video capabilities on that. They’re always going on about it on hotukdeals whenever the price drops. I’ve already got its ancestor, the NEX3n.