Modstep 1.1

mschenkel.it

@Kaikoo2
To me it sounds more like some kind of audio dropout rather than actual clipping. But your device is up to date so dunno really. Will have a try.

Kaikoo2

@mschenkel.it said:
@Kaikoo2
To me it sounds more like some kind of audio dropout rather than actual clipping. But your device is up to date so dunno really. Will have a try.

Thanks, good to knowing you! Your english is nice for me as a foreigner. Very logical and sane you are! i read many times your past posts.

Mschenkel.it, Nice to meet you here. You may guide me a lot into future!

Tones4Christ

Lol! Mee too!

So glad to have you both here ma man!

@JohnnyGoodyear said:
I have missed the enthusiastic twittering of the rare Kaikoo bird in my mornings

mschenkel.it

So I gave it I shot:
had no troubles like yours but got plenty of mine.
Open MS
Load Animoog
Load WOW on the same track
_First issue: WOW didn't want to load up so I had to open it from the desktop and close it a couple of time before I could get it to work.
Arm and record the track output.
Try to listen to the file and MS keeps on crashing(I guess it is some kind of naming issues)
Then WOW's knobs were still responsive but the audio engine was on bypass.
Rebooted everything(not the device tho)and things got back to normal but for those crashes when trying to preview the clip I previously recorded.

Glad to meet you too

bounce

@wim said:

@bounce said:
Thanks for pointing out that distinction, must have glossed over it when reading the manual. Still having a weird issue though: when I switch the type from melody to drum I can then hear the drums play the midi file and I can see the clip has midi parts in the piano roll via clip preview. Yet, when I go into the clip it still plays the midi file with the samplers drums, but none of the midi notes show in the piano roll. So, I can add midi notes in the piano roll by touching lanes, but I can't subtract anything from the imported midi file because none of the notes show in the piano roll other than the ones I've added.

That doesn't happen to me. Are you sure you're in the piano roll, not the step sequencer? Once you switch over to melody, you should be editing in the piano roll, even if it's a "drum" midi part. Confusing as hell, I know. It seems like the developers are heading in a direction to make that clearer, but aren't quite there yet.

It's in piano roll and it's in melody mode playing the drum part. It seems that, somehow, that one midi file was causing that problem and not showing its notes. Other midi files have worked correct, but some of them have left ghost notes playing after deletion in the piano roll. Then clicking fold to find them crashes the app.

You're right about that, a few things were quite confusing to suss out (even as a Live user of since v2). I'm sure it will get more user friendly and stable as it's refined. Still, a damn great app overall and well worth 5x more than its price!

Kaikoo2

@mschenkel.it said:
So I gave it I shot:
had no troubles like yours but got plenty of mine.
Open MS
Load Animoog
Load WOW on the same track
_First issue: WOW didn't want to load up so I had to open it from the desktop and close it a couple of time before I could get it to work.
Arm and record the track output.
Try to listen to the file and MS keeps on crashing(I guess it is some kind of naming issues)
Then WOW's knobs were still responsive but the audio engine was on bypass.
Rebooted everything(not the device tho)and things got back to normal but for those crashes when trying to preview the clip I previously recorded.

Glad to meet you too

Wow!

@Nerk_

Help us to debug Mod audio and iaa recording engine!

Kaikoo2

@Kaikoo2 said:

@mschenkel.it said:
So I gave it I shot:
had no troubles like yours but got plenty of mine.
Open MS
Load Animoog
Load WOW on the same track
_First issue: WOW didn't want to load up so I had to open it from the desktop and close it a couple of time before I could get it to work.
Arm and record the track output.
Try to listen to the file and MS keeps on crashing(I guess it is some kind of naming issues)
Then WOW's knobs were still responsive but the audio engine was on bypass.
Rebooted everything(not the device tho)and things got back to normal but for those crashes when trying to preview the clip I previously recorded.

Glad to meet you too

Wow!

@Nerk_

Help us to debug Mod audio and iaa recording engine!

I might need to email SugarBite this thread to check their WOW IAA tomorrow!

Late now, good night.

AndyPlankton

@firejan82 said:

@ecamburn said:
Is there a way to record a passage of longer than 1 bar? I know you can play back passages that are longer than 1 bar by playing back multiple patterns in a row. It seems like pattern length in the step sequencer is limited to 1 bar. But the piano roll also seems limited to this constraint.

Not a huge constraint IMO since you can string together up to 16 patterns, but I'm just trying to make sure I understand Modsteps structure and workflow correctly

If I understand your question correctly, then yes you can. You need to highlight the bars to enable them to play, so you could record a 16 bar passage if you highlight them all.

Pattern does not have to equal a bar, you can use the playback speed, if you select half then 1 pattern will be 2 bars. When you do this each bar will only have 8th notes.
To change playback speed of a pattern
open the piano roll,
Select the speed button,
Select the speed you want
Touch the pattern(s) that you want to change playback speed of

Carnbot

@Kaikoo2 said:

@Carnbot said:
it would be great to see different sets of stock chords included in future updates.

Hehe, you the hand behind the move! My sensor says.

Yes perhaps, although people would probably benefit more from other chord wizards knowledge

Btw have you tried your setup with Modstep AUM and WOW?

Tones4Christ

I'm still trying to wrap my head around this wild pony! But I know it'll be so worth it!

firejan82

Can't figure out how to pitch bend AU's in Modstep. iSEM, Viking and NS1. For example when I use iSEM IAA in Modstep pitch bend works, when I use iSEM AU in Cubasis pitch bend works, iSEM AU in Modstep pitchbend doesn't work. Is that a bug or am I missing something?

Wally

@cblomert
Stuck / hanging notes : anyone else ?
Using external keyboard as input , to either external hardware or iPad synths .
When recording they even recorded , a problem pre sequencer maybe ?

However , when ModStep removed , direct connection to same tested synths eliminates hanging notes , thus suggesting problem is ModStep & not my otherwise correctly functioning setup . Air2 8.4
I also posted this on FB page .

sleepless

@Wally said:
@cblomert
Stuck / hanging notes : anyone else ?
Using external keyboard as input , to either external hardware or iPad synths .
When recording they even recorded , a problem pre sequencer maybe ?

However , when ModStep removed , direct connection to same tested synths eliminates hanging notes , thus suggesting problem is ModStep & not my otherwise correctly functioning setup . Air2 8.4
I also posted this on FB page .

I get hanging notes with IAA and external hardware synths. Was a problem in v1.0 also but I'd hoped it would be dealt with quickly.

Nerk_

@Kaikoo2 : I got in contact with Rico from Sugar Bytes to get a copy of WOW and get to the bottom of this. Thanks for finding!

Nerk_

@firejan82 : this seems to be a bug, we will check further!

firejan82

@Nerk_ said:
@firejan82 : this seems to be a bug, we will check further!

Thanks. Also Modstep doesn't save AU settings like the other AU hosts do.

Kaikoo2

@Carnbot said:

@Kaikoo2 said:

@Carnbot said:
it would be great to see different sets of stock chords included in future updates.

Hehe, you the hand behind the move! My sensor says.

Yes perhaps, although people would probably benefit more from other chord wizards knowledge

Btw have you tried your setup with Modstep AUM and WOW?

Oh, thk you so much, in this way to check which app goes wrong.

@Nerk_ said:
@Kaikoo2 : I got in contact with Rico from Sugar Bytes to get a copy of WOW and get to the bottom of this. Thanks for finding!

Cheers

@firejan82 said:

@Nerk_ said:
@firejan82 : this seems to be a bug, we will check further!

Thanks. Also Modstep doesn't save AU settings like the other AU hosts do.

Nerk, firejan is a loyal iSemer! Mod need special care for the reverse wheel.

Kaikoo2

@nerk_, @cblomert

Hi Benjamin,

The piano roll data mover has left/right and up/down moving in opposite direction. Is that the intended purpose? Cheers

Tones4Christ

I just noticed that too tonight. I finally got around to starting a fresh project and recorded midi clip. Stop pretty clueless but that's mostly my ignorance more than MS.

gonekrazy3000

I just noticed the inverted behaviour myself. It was working properly before this update. Please change it back devs.

[Deleted User]

@cblomert, @Nerk , can you check please what happens to imported samples from Audioshare?
They loose VOLUME, nothing to do with the original. Playing them back in MS, they are barely audible...

pierre

@Kaikoo2 said:
@nerk_, @cblomert

Hi Benjamin,

The piano roll data mover has left/right and up/down moving in opposite direction. Is that the intended purpose? Cheers

I was hoping somebody else noticed

Kaikoo2

@pierre said:

@Kaikoo2 said:......

I was hoping somebody else noticed

Actually I should name myself KooKai

Nerk_

Yes, we also noticed the inverted behavior, sorry for that, will be fixed very soon !

[Deleted User]

@Nerk_ said:
Yes, we also noticed the inverted behavior, sorry for that, will be fixed very soon !

@Nerk, did you notice the samples?

Nerk_

@soundklinik : Yes, will check where that comes from!

Kaikoo2

@Nerk_ said:
@Kaikoo2 : I got in contact with Rico from Sugar Bytes to get a copy of WOW and get to the bottom of this. Thanks for finding!

Benjamin, and @cblomert ,

1. The WOW on Animoog by AUM recording goes very fine, not a single clipping, even I tweaking more than 10 knobs of WOW while recording. The audio loop on AUM is perfect. Just reporting back to you on Modstep IAA audio recording

2. In addition, on ghost midi data issue, I did Fugue Machine to Mod recording today! Same problem exist when reopen and redo the midi recording, that ghost invisible running!

Thank you.

AndyPlankton

For those reporting hung notes, check your midi off notes and make sure they are not coming after your pattern end point. i.e note off in next pattern that is not playing.
You can get some wierd stuff going on when the on and off are in different patterns and you then move the patterns about.

Korakios

After spending 2 days with Modstep I really love it !
I have some FRs:

• Seriously please make a select button , or (easier) disable stopping or starting the clip when tapped ,on recording mode. If I want to overdub a playing clip then I have to touch it first but then it stops.
• Also midi remote for lenght and speed would be handy.( maybe a switchable ) automatic lenght depending on when you stop playing would be great.
• Reverse , ping-pong midi loops (and assign transpose to midi CC)
• How about an arpeggiator ?

Hope the devs are happy with Modstep as we are! 5 star rating coming!

firejan82

@Korakios said:

• Seriously please make a select button , or (easier) disable stopping or starting the clip when tapped ,on recording mode. If I want to overdub a playing clip then I have to touch it first but then it stops.

Try tapping the top of the track of the clip you want to overdub instead of the clip itself when it's already playing.