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Come to think of it, if 2) was implemented, it would be trivial for ED to ship with a set of presets for a bunch of iOS sequencers/drum machines (their default MIDI note output numbers anyway).
I wish they would, I'd love to get the sequences triggered from ModStep to ED, and then nip in and out of ED to twiddle the sounds and generally muck about. I love the sound of ED, but I prefer to keep my sequences all in the same place, e.g. ModStep.
It was so easy with Gadget, no mucking about involved at all.
Care to detail your path? You hosted Gadget in AUM? Do you have a file open in Gadget with only Gladstone loaded into a track? Are there midi connections in Gadget you need to make?
Screenshots?
You can load up Gadget directly into ModStep as an IAA instrument, or via AUM if you prefer. Load up Gladstone in Gadget, and just get the clip going in ModStep. Just the same as controlling an IAA synth.
I'm not on the iPad at the mo, but let me know if you get stuck and I'll try and help.
I'll take a look, thanks. I think I probably had a full Gadget song up with several gadgets loaded, which confused things.
@MonzoPro @ExAsperis99
) while using piano roll and keyboard or pads in Modstep.
This is the set up for Modstep sequencing ED that allows me to move between and play w/ED knobs (and automations
Settings page in modstep is untouched, ED midi note and clock set to IAA (but channel is set, in both modstep and ED to keep them discreet from other action)
Not sure if this is what was needed?
If you're using AUM load up the IAA
Yeah you don't need to use any notes in the Gadget sequencer, and ModStep will trigger all Gadgets in the song. I started with a blank Gadget project, loaded in Gladstone and that was it.
Thanks Littlewoodg, I had ModStep selected in ED, notice you haven't done that so I'll give your version a spin later
Does ED have CC in for the knobs controlling the sounds ? If it does you set up a template and control it direct from Modstep. Click on the icon at top that looks like a box with a wire coming out of top and bottom, create a new cc template by clicking on cc then new, you can then add the cc's that ED uses by using the + button at the bottom right....once you have this you can add them to the xy pads by dragging from the lower part of the screen onto one of the eight pads that are either side just above your cc list, and play them from the step sequencer. Definitely worth learning this bit
Good thing I have a week off!
Not working for me - it's triggering patterns rather than notes.
Thanks for trying to help but I'm giving up with ElasticDrums for now.
I'm only able to sequence ED in Modstep without triggering a pattern in ED if the sequencer in ED is empty...this took me a lot of stubborn trial error to realize, and even longer to realize the simple "why" see below.
I usually with the init preset, which has no note pattern, and i will program my drum sounds etc and save as a preset for Moddy or Cubby or whatever host, but always without note events in the ED sequencer.
If I like the sounds in one of the million presets it ships with I will defeat the song mode (the rotating square in the transport) and delete the note events in the arrange page....
there doesn't seem to be a way to keep ED from playing when Modstep is going, as there is no "off" setting possible for the clock in ED.
The "why": that the clock has no "off" is a feature rather than a fault, in the sense that the amazing six-ways-from-Sunday automation in ED depends on on the thing chugging along in sync with the host.
Don't give up brother.
Thanks, tried a blank preset but still seems to be triggering ED clips and knob twiddling, rather than notes.
@MonzoPro
Two things to check: first on the arrange page (along with the main page) the grid is empty of notes? When you say ED clips that sounds like a seq. is triggering?
And second, you are using C1-F1 chromatic scale for your note events in Modstep. Other notes up the scale do all kinds of things- turn on Rec mode, switch screens etc etc
Sorry dude, with software shit, really anything, I can be like a dog on a bone...
If anyone cracks this I'll create a template
ED CC template for Modstep would be huge...
Chime in a bit here with some Manual:
With Same controller for all instr. enabled you can use the
same Midi controllers to tweak the knobs of all 6
instruments. (Note - Each Instrument has 8 parameters, so you could map these 8, and control whichever instrument is currently selected, but if you want separate controls for each instrument, deselect this -otherwise conflicts can occur) In that mode, you will control the knobs of the
actual visible instrument, the other instruments will be
unaffected.
If you want to send out the sequencers trigger signals as
notes (CC’s are not supported yet), choose the right Midi
out channel you want to send the notes. The outgoing
notes will be the same as the incoming notes you set via
Midi learn.
If you want to receive Note messages, choose the right Midi
in channel and choose the right Note in port in the midi
interfaces table. This works for the trigger buttons of the Jam
screen so far only. No other buttons are supported to receive
Midi.
Thanks, the grid was empty of notes in ED, but I'll check the ModStep scale as it helpfully defaults to 'Gipsy'. I'll get back and confirm when I've woken up
Update: just checked and scale was set to 'none', so it should work, and the same clip works fine with Gladstone.
I just tried ED with Modstep, thanks to promo code from @richtowns (cheers dude and merry xmas)
I can trigger drums as a kit in ED no problem......all I did was load ModStep and ED (outside of modstep and not onto modstep channel) create a pattern in Modstep using c1,c#1, d1, d#1, e1 and f1, on the modstep I/o set output device as modstep (strange but true) and in ED set midi note in to be ModStep.
As long as you do not also send clock you do not need to worry about what is in your pattern in ED.
If you load ED as IAA in modstep then the pattern still works, but you have to have an empty pattern in ED as it is now using IAA sync and ED starts playing when Modstep does.
Hope this helps
Thanks Andy, tried what you've suggested but still getting nothing - ModStep is triggering the controls rather than notes. Would you be able to put up a screengrab of the ED and ModStep MIDI settings? I must be missing something somewhere, but followed the instructions to a tee.
Are you definitely send c1 for drum 1......higher notes are for controls...sounds like there is some transposing going on somewhere
I tried ED as IAA inside Modstep and it works fine. Make sure you have also enabled the "arm" button in modstep.
Also ED does not have IAA panel ,so it's easier to load both in AB for easy switching between modstep and elastic.
Thanks again Andy - I've set everything up identical to what you have there, still nothing, still controlling the knobs instead.
Tried Arm on and off, still no joy.
@AndyPlankton
It's weird, the only difference between our screen shots is that you have midi note and midi clock set as "Modstep" and I have it set as ED. If I set mine to Modstep, no joy. ??
@Korakios weird again, ED has had a IAA panel since way back, its button is visible in @AndyPlankton last screen shot, you tap the white "IAA" in the upper right in the transport panel to switch between the host (Modstep) icon and its transport functions, and EDs tool/settings icon
This is from the ed manual, may help if you can work out which note is triggering which function for you.
I cannot get any response if I use elasticdrums as the midi, only when using modstep as midi in both apps.
You only need to arm in modstep if you want inbound midi from elastic or other controller.
Hell yes.