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That’s a bit harsh. I wouldn’t say he’s paranoid.
i'll keep in mind that not everyone here understands sarcasm.
and my experience with software EOL problems is of a professional nature, not paranoia. but thanks.
Or you just really suck at successfully conveying sarcasm...either way.
edit: there have been some dumb threads on this board lately
Impacktor for steering-wheel drumming would be sweet.
I've just danced to Bat Out Of Hell with the wife, while doing the washing up. I can't imagine driving safely while producing beats and attempting air guitar
- look ma no hands!
wait... this conversation is about porting iOS music apps to other platforms??? I missed something along the way. Anyway...
Sadly, I don't think its going to happen very soon. Some of the most successful iOS devs have done it and from what I recall they did not feel like it was worth it (for their business).
I've heard of a few examples, not sure how well they are doing:
Not worried about Apple, but with computer technology, I expect changes in the future I can't predict. It's not like when I was young. Learn to play the guitar or piano, and all the time invested is worth a lifetime relationship with the instrument. I don't know the future of iPads, or if what I'm doing today will even work with the next iOS update. It's still about learning a technology, and what I learn today will be applicable in some way to what I'd be doing 10 or 20 years from now on probably some other platform if I live that long.
I'm now unsure what this thread is about. Or what it'll suddenly be supposedly about tomorrow. And I still can't spot where the sarcasm was in the OP.
I think a better tittle would of been, 'economy going down - it's time to think of the future'.
@southpole76 just make sure you have a backup of all your apps plus a few redundancies, grab a spare ipad battery or two and store appropriately, few spare screens and other assorted ipad spares. Also make sure your bunker has plenty of food and water, hydroponic growing systems, good source of renewable energy, a reliable firearm with ample ammunition, good pair of headphones and most importantly a dapper thong just incase your bunker gets over run and you need to change tactics, you should be good to go.
Apple are probably not going down - but they will certainly have to adapt, respond to the mood of the market and stop taking themselves so damn seriously. Gone are the days when everyone hangs on every word at every keynote event. We get it; they make phones and tablets. So does Samsung, and HTC, and Google, and LG. We know what's coming next; another phone or tablet, maybe a bit bigger, maybe a bit smaller, maybe a bit thinner, but definitely horrendously over-spec'd and over-priced for the average Facebooker/Snapchatter/Instagrammer/Tweeter. And ditching the headphone jack facepalm they've lost their minds.
All of that said, I do like my iThings, but for different reasons than the average person out there (as is the case with all of us here I'd imagine). I'm willing to forgive the horrendously restrictive file management and expensive official accessories and having to traipse 2 hours down to my nearest Apple store for repairs because I use mine for work and nothing else will do (plus I'm heavily invested in the platform now). But for most people out there...I think they've probably had enough of it.
I wonder if Herbie Hancock, Chick Corea and the rest of the musicians featured in this video were overly concerned about the demise of Apple and EOL of the MacOS they were using in 1988:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=7sACo5QntGc
Love The Specials
Better think of your future!
I've got the message Rudy
One filmed in the iCar production unit...
If you look closely you can make out the under-wraps iCar prototype.
Exactly the same thing here.
They can have it all if they are smart enough...
that's a great video, thanks!
and , no my guess is they weren't: do you notice all those hardware synths and rack gear making the actual sound in the background? all these still work today.
and btw generally people in that era were not overly concerned with data and software conservation, because they were not aware of the neccessity - a fact which i can see from this thread seems to be still true for the general population
They have their ups and downs like any company . I had a PowerMac years ago which never really took off , a> @Clam said:
The home button went on my first iPhone , so on my current phone ( 5 ) I activated the on-screen button to avoid wearing it out on my new one , and it's still going strong after 3 years lol . Unfortunately I can't find the option on my iPad so maybe they do removed it , so we wear it out
By the time apple hardware stops supporting iOS music apps , they'll be something better in it's place and we won't care
But hardware isn't eternal either. Synths break, and try getting manufacturer support after 5 years. I've spent a fortune on repairs & replacement parts for my SH-101, Juno-106, MPC 3000, MPC 2000XL, S900, because - to the people who made them - they are long EOL. I'm not a collector, I want something that works, now. I bought the DSI Tempest when it came out and they still haven't even got its firmware finished, unbelievably.
These are expensive units. A lot of people would rather pay a few £100 and have a huge selection of synths than go through the headache of maintaining pricey hardware. They will get their money's worth out of iOS now, and move on when technology requires it. This has happened with DAWs for £20 years and nobody's not buying Cubase now in case it doesn't work on OSX in 5 years (it almost certainly will not).
Talking about firmware that was never finished: my Alesis Andromeda and my Waldorf XTK. Bought the 2 for £2100 down from well over £4000 when they first came out. Both were great, yet very unfinished and quite delicate. I really doubt either would have lasted very long
@Fruitbat1919 Indeed, the Andromeda & nearly every Waldorf synth are notorious for never being "fixed". A lot of hardware was clearly manufactured to a budget, and the 2nd hand market is littered with battery-acid damaged Polysixs, dead-voiced Junos, rusted Mackie CR desks....these things were not really built to last either. It's just that some of them have, either through great care or extremely expensive maintenance.
People still use these things, much as people still use OS9 or Atari STs now, and people will still use iOS long after it's obsolete, should they feel the need to.
Think it's the same for most things, old cars, planes etc after a while it gets harder and harder to maintain stuff, I'm still fearing the day n.i kore stops working on osx, but if that does happen, I'll find a way till I'm ready to let it go.
The thing I'm more worried about is the decline that's going on across the board in many industries even then I'm not worried about the cyclic nature of economies but more about what causes these things.
When we head into recessions it becomes easier for the few who's incompetence and outrageous greed is at the root of the problem, to point fingers at their established scapegoats while a massive transfer of wealth happens from everyone else outside that tiny cliqué, like in 2008.
But I have faith that as we mature as human beings this will become a thing of the past, but how long will it be before we take the hand grenade off the angry toddler.
Strangely enough, the gear I've had the least trouble with over the years has been Emu. I've had their rack samplers, synths and drum machines and never had any issues - may just be luck of the draw though.
@mister_rz Don't get me started on NI. They abandoned Kore shortly after I bought it. Controller was always a flimsy piece of shit. Never again.
Tim Cook is not an innovator. There's a reason Apple has been making a ton of acquisitions the past few years, hoping that some of them will pay off in the long run.
@Fruitbat1919 I think the EMU samplers were incredibly well built, hence their phenomenally high launch prices. The Akai S900 was, similarly, a heavy tank, and my longest-lasting bit of gear. The obvious weak spots (backlight & floppy drive) did break though.
@sleepless You and me both, I got in at kore 2, year or too later, got an email, parties over, here's 3 kore packs, now if you'd just exit the building and not make as fuss it would be appreciated. I let out a small welp, but I love the deep fx series, got all 3, so I keep going with it, but my controller has a mind of its own, with can be a cow for automation.