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The Best Sampler

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  • kobamotokobamoto

    @ExAsperis99 said:
    A good sampler is what is missing from my recently (and greedily) assembled arsenal of apps.

    I know there are several good options, but here's what I want it to do:
    • I need to easily import my own audio files. Of more than 12 seconds (looking at you, Bilbao).
    • I need to be able to edit the waveform easily in the sampler.
    • I want to be able to quickly assign slices to pads and/or keys.
    • I want to export the slices/audio with no fuss.
    • Audiobus compatibility. General reliability.

    What I don't need:
    I do not need banks of presets. I don't care at all about glitch effects.

    Basically, I want to take a Mingus track (or a field recording or a movie soundtrack, say) and quickly chop it to use as ingredients with other tracks.

    The options:

    Beatmaker 2. This does everything I want it to. It's chop lab is great. But the interface is so horrible, and its labyrinth of recursive folders so confusing it crushes my spirit. Must I use it?
    iMPC Pro. This seems to be absolutely perfect. Beautiful workflow. But it has such a dodgy reputation, and I'm concerned about how well it plays with others.
    Samplr. So elegant, but zero audio editing.
    SampleTank. Seems to be geared toward the user who wants to compile tracks out of existing loops and premade samples.
    Sample Wiz. Same thing?
    Egoist. Looks terrific, but it seems to have a bunch of extras I'm not inclined to use. And it appears to be based on the random rearrangement of chops, which — seriously, this trick is going to sound so dated so soon. It's the 2015 equivalent of the orchestral stab of the late 80s. (My opinion only!)

    Am I missing anything?

  • studs1966studs1966

    Sir Sampleton app anyone? :)

  • RUST( i )KRUST( i )K

    @syrupcore said:
    Yellofier might also be worth checking out.

    BY FAR THE BEST MULTI UTILITY TYPE SLICE SEQUENCE SAMPLE APP WHATCHAMACALLIT EVER! LOVE IT

  • JohnnyGoodyearJohnnyGoodyear

    @studs1966 said:
    Sir Sampleton app anyone? :)

    I like it because it's so straightforward...one of those 'I seem to make something interesting every time I open it' apps...

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]

    @RustiK said:

    @syrupcore said:
    Yellofier might also be worth checking out.

    BY FAR THE BEST MULTI UTILITY TYPE SLICE SEQUENCE SAMPLE APP WHATCHAMACALLIT EVER! LOVE IT

    Seems to be abandoned, no?

  • ExAsperis99ExAsperis99

    @RustiK said:

    @syrupcore said:
    Yellofier might also be worth checking out.

    BY FAR THE BEST MULTI UTILITY TYPE SLICE SEQUENCE SAMPLE APP WHATCHAMACALLIT EVER! LOVE IT

    This is not for me, but Matt Johnson of The The did a tutorial! (If you don't know The The, you owe it to yourself to hear "Soul Mining," a 1981 project that was probably the first New Wave cross-pollination between synthpop and rock. Worth it for the Jools Holland piano solo in the outro to "Uncertain Smile." Showing my age.)

  • ThomasThomas

    THAT'S what we need- Emulator & SP12/1200 apps! ...fully featured, with audiobus, audiopaste, IAA, etc. Hello developers??

  • JohnnyGoodyearJohnnyGoodyear

    Can't remember the back of the hand differences between Yellofier and Electrified...if you were to play with one, which?

  • lukesleepwalkerlukesleepwalker

    @ExAsperis99 said:

    @RustiK said:

    @syrupcore said:
    Yellofier might also be worth checking out.

    BY FAR THE BEST MULTI UTILITY TYPE SLICE SEQUENCE SAMPLE APP WHATCHAMACALLIT EVER! LOVE IT

    This is not for me, but Matt Johnson of The The did a tutorial! (If you don't know The The, you owe it to yourself to hear "Soul Mining," a 1981 project that was probably the first New Wave cross-pollination between synthpop and rock. Worth it for the Jools Holland piano solo in the outro to "Uncertain Smile." Showing my age.)

    +1 on Soul Mining. Great stuff!

  • TheAudioDabblerTheAudioDabbler

    @parallaxobject said:
    I think some of iMPC Pro's biggest weaknesses in terms of working with samples are:

    1) it's pretty bad at importing samples - no Dropbox, no Audioshare import, no iCloud document picker (AudioCopy is slow, tedious, and only accepts 44.1k/16 bit samples ... 24 bit samples are more common nowadays coming out of DAWs, third-party packs, etc.). So it's really hampered at working with collections of user samples.

    I beta tested for iMPC pro and can confirm that the app now accepts 24bit files. I have tested it with the DJ Tech Tools Free sound pack that they send out and they work like a charm.

  • ProtoProto

    This is exactly the reason I bought so many apps. This whole list of I WANT... SLICE,TRIGGER,IMPORT,EXPORT,TIME STRETCH,... etc. is just not yet invented and think we are all waiting for this "ultimate" all in one app. :smile:

  • ExAsperis99ExAsperis99
    edited May 2016

    @Proto said:
    This is exactly the reason I bought so many apps. This whole list of I WANT... SLICE,TRIGGER,IMPORT,EXPORT,TIME STRETCH,... etc. is just not yet invented and think we are all waiting for this "ultimate" all in one app. :smile:

    Yeah, that's the rub. iMPC is close, but I miss that BPM finder in Beatmaker 2. Or maybe iMPC has it and it is not quite revealed? Maybe it's hidden next to the metronome?

  • ElGregoLocoElGregoLoco

    BM3 could be a dream come true I guess...

    PS : I still use BM2 to sample/stretch/chop precisely , the BPM finder is an awesome feature lol... But when I need to export the slices to Bilbao, it's a long long long long process, which sucks (I dream of an option to send multiple files to audiocopy at once in BM2 but it does not even permit to copy to audiocopy...)

    PS2 : I hate audiocopy, but it is the only way to get samples easily and with understandable names in Gadget currently lol...

  • ExAsperis99ExAsperis99

    @ExAsperis99 said:

    @Proto said:
    This is exactly the reason I bought so many apps. This whole list of I WANT... SLICE,TRIGGER,IMPORT,EXPORT,TIME STRETCH,... etc. is just not yet invented and think we are all waiting for this "ultimate" all in one app. :smile:

    Yeah, that's the rub. iMPC is close, but I miss that BPM finder in Beatmaker 2. Or maybe iMPC has it and it is not quite revealed? Maybe it's hidden next to the metronome?

    Actually, I did find the BPM finder, but my frustration came from the fact that you CAN'T LOOP SAMPLES after you've edited them. Baffling.

  • parallaxobjectparallaxobject

    @gmslayton said:

    @parallaxobject said:
    I think some of iMPC Pro's biggest weaknesses in terms of working with samples are:

    1) it's pretty bad at importing samples - no Dropbox, no Audioshare import, no iCloud document picker (AudioCopy is slow, tedious, and only accepts 44.1k/16 bit samples ... 24 bit samples are more common nowadays coming out of DAWs, third-party packs, etc.). So it's really hampered at working with collections of user samples.

    I beta tested for iMPC pro and can confirm that the app now accepts 24bit files. I have tested it with the DJ Tech Tools Free sound pack that they send out and they work like a charm.

    I meant AudioCopy does not accept 24 bit samples ... and since AudioCopy is maybe the only way to import samples without a computer, it directly limits iMPC Pro.

  • WillWill

    @ElGregoLoco said:
    But when I need to export the slices to Bilbao, it's a long long long long process, which sucks (I dream of an option to send multiple files to audiocopy at once in BM2 but it does not even permit to copy to audiocopy...)

    I miss the iOS5-6 Sonoma pasteboard. Could copy/paste 11 samples at once until an iOS update broke the hack. BM never supported it but lots of other apps did.

    I think the AudioShare SDK allows for multiple file transfer if the apps work out how to support it.

  • kobamotokobamoto
    edited May 2016

    @ExAsperis99 said:

    @ExAsperis99 said:

    @Proto said:

    Actually, I did find the BPM finder, but my frustration came from the fact that you CAN'T LOOP SAMPLES after you've edited them. Baffling.

    what happens when you press the sample edit button, is it just not allowed?

  • ExAsperis99ExAsperis99

    There's just no option when auditioning samples to loop, which is kind of the only way to know if you've chopped accurately. The good thing is iMPC is nondestructive editing, so you can redo if it doesn't work when it's assigned to a pad.

    The other weird thing is that the "slice loop" command doesn't find your BPM, even though it seems to know it. What it does is alter the tempo of the sample to a "target BPM" of the track. Which I suppose you can change later to whatever BPM you want. A little backward.

    But the no-loop option seems like a design flaw, and not something that would easily be addressed in an update.

  • kobamotokobamoto

    actually they said they were going to address that in an update but it hasn't materialized yet, it's already in their audio copy editor,

  • ExAsperis99ExAsperis99
    edited May 2016

    @kobamoto said:
    actually they said they were going to address that in an update but it hasn't materialized yet, it's already in their audio copy editor,

    What's an audio copy editor?

    EDIT: OH. AudioCopy editor. DUH. Sorry for being dense.

  • kobamotokobamoto

    hey Ex just had a thought, would the slice loop 'loop audition' work out for you, you'd have to hold down the button while it loops but it might hold you over?

  • ExAsperis99ExAsperis99

    FACEPALM
    YES. Thank you, Kobamoto!
    Problem solved.

  • IcepulseIcepulse

    Betcha Loopy Masterpiece Edition will tick all of the boxes.

    Egoist is cool, but the direct desktop GUI port is pretty unfriendly to work with, especially on my Mini 2.

  • robertreynoldsrobertreynolds

    STROM looks like the real deal from a sampler perspective, and it just got an update. Might do more than you need though.

  • kobamotokobamoto

    @ExAsperis99 said:
    FACEPALM
    YES. Thank you, Kobamoto!
    Problem solved.

    cool man, glad to help

  • kobamotokobamoto

    @robertreynolds said:
    STROM looks like the real deal from a sampler perspective, and it just got an update. Might do more than you need though.

    I wish the dev would come back and chime in on the app

  • Telstar5Telstar5

    Doesn't Beathawk fulfill those requirements? Also Blocs Wave now with its new chopping/slice options, while not a conventional "sampler" per se, seems to get the job done.

  • Telstar5Telstar5

    Someone mentioned lack of editing but it seems fine for most purposes .

  • kobamotokobamoto

    it's cool, but not if you're looking for a chop lab

  • Telstar5Telstar5

    @Kobamoto: Ok, I guess I need to check out iMPC then.. Thanks for the info. Also, Yellofoer comes in two versions?

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