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Modstep update v1.1.1

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  • @Kaikoo2 said:
    @Carnbot,

    I can not help. I intentionally delete the old Modstep for installing the new one. So I see the new CC presets there. Maybe updating it can not install them to the updated Modstep.

    I see the new Korg Volca FM, but not Moog Model 15, Gadget, Ciruit, etc.

    Do the new templates not get installed with App Store update?

  • @gburks said:

    @Kaikoo2 said:
    @Carnbot,

    I can not help. I intentionally delete the old Modstep for installing the new one. So I see the new CC presets there. Maybe updating it can not install them to the updated Modstep.

    I see the new Korg Volca FM, but not Moog Model 15, Gadget, Ciruit, etc.

    Do the new templates not get installed with App Store update?

    The new update coming next day, maybe? They said have it fixed.

  • I'm seeing all of the templates. Note that most are under the manf. name, rather than the product.

  • edited May 2016

    I am not on the fence, rather in the field but under a bush hoping no one notices me sitting here so quietly. Bought Modstep and happy to have done so, but while I feel I may be missing out on the shared learning curve I am intimidated by apps that are complex but also have a number of bugs (I know; with many features and complexity etc etc). But am waiting and watching while this doughty platoon does its work.....

  • @funjunkie27 said:
    I'm seeing all of the templates. Note that most are under the manf. name, rather than the product.

    @Kaikoo2 said:

    @gburks said:

    @Kaikoo2 said:
    @Carnbot,

    I can not help. I intentionally delete the old Modstep for installing the new one. So I see the new CC presets there. Maybe updating it can not install them to the updated Modstep.

    I see the new Korg Volca FM, but not Moog Model 15, Gadget, Ciruit, etc.

    Do the new templates not get installed with App Store update?

    The new update coming next day, maybe? They said have it fixed.

    Looking in exact same spot as this screenshot. I don't have Moog Model 15. They said this is fixed in next update?

  • @gburks - that's where I found it. It seems odd that it appears for me but not others. Mini 2, latest iOS

  • Still fully laden with bugs and still one of the most vital iOS performance apps. Modstep's saving grace is that if you can work around what doesn't work, what does work works exceptionally.

    I like the change to the 'current scene' button, other than that this update doesn't affect me much. Noticed that half the notes sent to Sidtracker64 from Modstep don't play, but it's probably a longer running issue that's not unique to this patch.

  • I only saw the new templates after uninstalling and reinstalling.

  • edited May 2016

    @ghostly606 said:
    I only saw the new templates after uninstalling and reinstalling.

    In another thread it was mentioned that new templates don't show after updating but do show after full install. It's a known bug that will be fixed.

    For those who are saying modstep is "bug laden" are you reporting to the dev? I wouldn't consider modstep "bug laden" and wonder if some issues are with other apps.

    Also, I hate the way MIDI works in iOS. It's stupid that it's not simply MIDI In and Out from sources and destinations. Figuring out what boxes need to be ticked to get apps to talk to one another is frustrating. Hardware MIDI was much easier. :(

  • @anickt said:

    Also, I hate the way MIDI works in iOS. It's stupid that it's not simply MIDI In and Out from sources and destinations. Figuring out what boxes need to be ticked to get apps to talk to one another is frustrating.

    NODS VIGOROUSLY.

  • @ExAsperis99 said:

    @anickt said:

    Also, I hate the way MIDI works in iOS. It's stupid that it's not simply MIDI In and Out from sources and destinations. Figuring out what boxes need to be ticked to get apps to talk to one another is frustrating.

    NODS VIGOROUSLY.

    Yes, so very un-iOS/Apple like. Everything else in iOS Apple imposes its totalitarian approach to forcing you to do things one simple way only, and if you disagree with their way, tough luck.

  • On the other hand, we all do things 100s of times more complicated every single day without even thinking about it. Getting dressed, fixing a meal, driving a car, playing an instrument, mailing Christmas card...

    Why do we all whine so much at these things that are really no more challenging than writing a forum post?? Why does everything have to be doable brain-dead and at the push of a button just because it's on an tablet or PC?

    This is a sincere question I ponder a lot, not a flame or a reflection on anyone else - I'm just as prone as anyone. It just puzzles me. I think we all be happier if we just sucked it up and/or reveled in the challenge. Anything worthwhile takes work. Why should making music be any different?

    If it was easy everyone would be doing it. ..... Oh wait....

  • @wim said:
    On the other hand, we all do things 100s of times more complicated every single day without even thinking about it. Getting dressed, fixing a meal, driving a car, playing an instrument, mailing Christmas card...

    Why do we all whine so much at these things that are really no more challenging than writing a forum post?? Why does everything have to be doable brain-dead and at the push of a button just because it's on an tablet or PC?

    This is a sincere question I ponder a lot, not a flame or a reflection on anyone else - I'm just as prone as anyone. It just puzzles me. I think we all be happier if we just sucked it up and/or reveled in the challenge. Anything worthwhile takes work. Why should making music be any different?

    If it was easy everyone would be doing it. ..... Oh wait....

    I understand what you're saying.

    My point is the user experience and consistency between devices for common things like file management (save, save as, load, create new folder etc. instead of some artsy, esoteric approach that's different for every app) or for MIDI. For instance, device A talks to device B (and only device B) over channel 1, to device C (and only C) over channel 2 etc. Some apps work that way and some don't. It all gets tedious after a while.

    There is a great deal of consistency in the user experience in the Mac OS in spite of the applications coming from a number of different developers.

  • Yeah. It is odd. The benevolent dictator Apple has been asleep at the wheel concerning MIDI on iOS, and it shows.

  • Wim, you're absolutely correct. Part of the joy I have found in ModStep is inventing ways to solve the problem of making sound. It does chafe against my consumerist desire to be pampered by the products I buy.

    But I am a musician first, and a technologist — well, way later. It seems to me that many of these apps are created to scratch technological itches rather than channel the creation of music. Apps like Chromium or Earhoof (my experience is limited to whatever YouTube videos are up) seem more interested in how the sound is made than the sound that comes out of them. Sector and Egoist are technically mind-blowing. But I think musically, they will sound very much like 2015 in a few years.

    But really, what am I complaining about?? I have had more enjoyment in trying to fathom ModStep for my entertainment dollar (my $20 entertainment dollars) than pretty much every movie I watched this year.

  • Well, it is frustrating when you're on a roll creating something, and the you have to divert down some obtuse path to figure out how to record or reproduce it. Could be worse though ... It could all somehow have to end up in a giant two-track reel recorder. ;)

  • edited May 2016

    @ExAsperis99 said:
    Wim, you're absolutely correct. Part of the joy I have found in ModStep is inventing ways to solve the problem of making sound. It does chafe against my consumerist desire to be pampered by the products I buy.

    But I am a musician first, and a technologist — well, way later. It seems to me that many of these apps are created to scratch technological itches rather than channel the creation of music. Apps like Chromium or Earhoof (my experience is limited to whatever YouTube videos are up) seem more interested in how the sound is made than the sound that comes out of them. Sector and Egoist are technically mind-blowing. But I think musically, they will sound very much like 2015 in a few years.

    But really, what am I complaining about?? I have had more enjoyment in trying to fathom ModStep for my entertainment dollar (my $20 entertainment dollars) than pretty much every movie I watched this year.

    That's a big statement mister :)

    I saw The Year of Living Dangerously again on the plane back from Chicago (when I should have been learning Modstep :)), and it made me remember how good good movies can be. And then, on a roll, I dug out The Spy Who Came In From The Cold, and remembered how good Richard Burton could be before he started phoning it in. Guess I should start an 'Old Movies You've Watched Again Recently And Are Totally In Favor Of' thread....

  • @wim said:
    Well, it is frustrating when you're on a roll creating something, and the you have to divert down some obtuse path to figure out how to record or reproduce it. Could be worse though ... It could all somehow have to end up in a giant two-track reel recorder. ;)

    Yes, but then you'd be done! No more tinkering would be possible!

  • I don't enjoy tinkering and setting crap up; I just want to fire up and make music. Fortunately, there are many ways to do that without having to get a bunch of apps all working reliably and in sync with each other at once. I just keep it fairly simple; if something doesn't work, I move on.

  • @lovadamusic said:
    I don't enjoy tinkering and setting crap up; I just want to fire up and make music. Fortunately, there are many ways to do that without having to get a bunch of apps all working reliably and in sync with each other at once. I just keep it fairly simple; if something doesn't work, I move on.

    I'm with you on that. Life's too short!

  • So... Still crashes? What is the verdict?

  • Hi all! We are working on another little update that should iron out all remaining issues with AUs and IAAs (as far as they are on our side) + some other smaller bugs. Please send us crashlogs and/or bug descriptions to bugs (at) modstep.net for your issues!

    Also a little reminder: our modstep video contest will go on for two more weks, now is your chance to win a korg volca sample, a meeblip anode and apps from Elastic Drums, ZMORS Modular, Triqtraq, Blamsoft, Arturia and Sugar Bytes (Effectrix, Egoist, WOW, Turnado and Cyclop).

    http://modstep.net/video-contest-win-a-korg-volca-sample-a-meeblip-anode-and-a-bunch-of-apps/

  • @Nerk_ , please don't forget to fix the volume?... I don't have any crashes or problems, just the VOLUME is frustrating...up it by ~12db and you'll make us all happy... <3

    THANKS IN ADVANCE

  • @soundklinik : Looking into that!

  • My only 'wishlisted' fix is for Modstep's outputs to properly deliver to AUM channels via Audiobus, (instead of play all but one directly through it's own output) . We discussed it before but never got anywhere. It is possible with multiple exit/reboot cycles to get it working right but not possible to reliably recall a preset in a way that makes it viable for live use. I'm just using the synth with no sampler at the moment but hopefully down the road I can bring that back.

    Just want to also add that the workflow tweaks that have been implemented in recent patches are all exceptionally useful changes, and very well thought through. Thanks for the continuing positive work towards refining Modstep, it's a brilliant tool.

  • @Nerk_ said:
    @soundklinik : Looking into that!

    Thank you :) <3

    question; if you fix the internal volume, will it effect the audio recording (meaning the "recorder" cassette) too?
    I like the way I can record and bounce loop to Audioshare with a click of a button...however the recoded audio is much lower volume, coming from ModStep, so I have to "normalise" it to get default volume with the rest of samples.

    Will the volume fix also fix the low volume recording? (see the wave files in AS, before/after...) once they don't have to be normalised ....you made it

    Thanks

  • @cblomert said:

    Guys to fix the remaining issues with IAAs/AUs we need your help!
    Would it be possible to compile a list of Apps that you are having issues with in modstep?
    If possible including type of issue, steps to reproduce & if these apps run better in other hosts like AUM.

    We'll work through them one by one and see if we can come up with fixes for the issues. This issue is stealing our sleep - we want our app to be as stable and pleasant to use as possible, and some of the workarounds you guys have to go through are definitely not what we intended!

    Thank you!

    Korg iMS-20 and iPolysix - Will work initially, if loaded externally first, but at some point quite quickly the audio stream will get messed up and you get a lot of crackle, this has always happened with these apps regardless of the IAA host (Cubasis, AUM, ModStep) so I guess there isn't much that can be done, unless Korg get involved.

  • This is totally 'Off Topic' But when i hear 'Mod' i think of Amiga Mods.

    Maybe when ModSTEP is able to play samples using a piano keyboard we can have 'Mod-Import' :D

    If the developers are 'Old School Enough' they might love this crazy idea too hehe...

  • @Nerk_ , what about looking into AU FX presets, I know AU instrument presets is available in the keyboard area under preset but AU FX is not available.

  • @Samu said:
    This is totally 'Off Topic' But when i hear 'Mod' i think of Amiga Mods.

    those are my roots! Wish I could say I have come a long way. :neutral:

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