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Is there a setting I can change to HOLD notes? I've never been able to find it!
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So, I've been looking into this synth. As I understand it, this is not a traditional synth with chromatic notes, but rather something more abstract. In other words, one would be more likely to create a soundscape with it, rather than play and perform a specific tune like say, "Ode to Joy"? I mean, I recognize that one "could" do a tune on it, but it lends itself more rather to abstract sound creation. Even more so than Korg's Kaossilator. AND, it's meant to be performed in real time (live) and not sequenced (has no MIDI). Am I correct in my understanding?
you can absolutely play chromatically, or with a wide range of scales, or you can program some amazing scheme no one has thought of before. it appears to have no midi except the manual does make mention of it, so...
I don't think midi messages can handle TC-11 midi data that played out by your hands on it (Traffic jam).
If one really like big part of TC-11 experiences, TC-data is the choice.
Developer is absolutely thoughtful.
Lovely instrument
It's easy to make your own "hold". I have the "end" of sound triggered by "third touch", for example. This leads to sustaining notes, sounding until I put threee fingers down at the same time.... (which I then have slowly fade out by long "release time" in ADSR).
Great App, great update. Thank you!
How would I do that? I can't seem to figure it out. And yes, I already bought it....
@BitShapeSoft Yeah. Once the idea of a "hold" was put out there, I dove into the editor and played with the idea— but it's just not that simple. Adjusting the AHDSR works, but I wouldn't want that burned into the patch. It would have to be on the actual interface to be useful. No thanks. KISS me please.
Now, when you get midi and/or Link going... that's another story. Gesture recording will then be in the offing, and I'll be on you like a bee on a bean burrito.
bottom right ui thingie double tap, then patch, then transpose... choose key then hit set key
Unless anything new and shiny turns up I've got all the apps I need for now , but these latest rounds of updates (I'd forgotten to include Thumbjam in my list) have made what I've already got a whole bunch sweeter
Spent last night making short recordings with Patterning , iDensity and TC-11 via aum , and then loading the recordings into Blocs for chopping and sequencing . That session was then fed back into the aum file player for live Moog and Geoshred lead lines
I couldn't have done any of this at the start if the year - plenty to be learning and getting on with !
TC-11 and Data are great , bit of cracking if you push them though
I can see programming into a patch can bring some great results too. but a hold feature is just as much about the visual feedback you get and can, thus feed back into the performance (
)to give another dimension to the instrument.
so I mean that when you "hold" a gesture the GFX stays in position when you release. You can see where the gesture is positioned, place another relative to it. go to another patch in a multi-patch set up, do the same. go back to the original patch, move the gesture to a slightly different position etc. It can help compositionally I think as well as giving you the ability to have more than 10 fingers. You could also control the hold on or off mode via midi yes. how about a toggle button in the bottom pop up menu?
I'd recommend TC Data as well if its on sale and you can afford it - it does the same thing but controls your other apps via midi .
I've almost reached the stage where I'm worried I'm not doing justice to the incredible music tools at my disposal . I'm used to squeezing every last bit of juice out of simple gear , having all these amazing options can be overwhelming .
I agree that TC-11 lends itself better to abstract soundscape type of applications. And generally I find that such instruments work best when you use them as the starting point and then build your whole track around it. If you try to introduce them later, they tend to take over the whole direction of the track. In my case, I already had a track in progress, which I knew was about the future, and I wanted a synth that would give me some sort of futuristic quality. I tried various apps (including Animoog, which I did end up using in the intro), and then I hit upon TC-11.
If you want something more oriented towards scales I think something like the Jordan Rudess apps, like GeoSynth, are a better type of interface. However, now that TC-11 has a multi-mode, it would be nice if we could get a few presets with a more Geo-Synth type of interface for playing more melodic lines. That way you could get a soundscape bed going and then play melodies over it, all within TC-11.
BTW, Jakob Haq of The Soundtest Room (who was the inspiration for my track "Visions of the Future") has created an in-depth series of videos that walks you through pretty much every aspect of TC-11. I need to review these videos myself!
Cool! Thanks @Lady_App_titude
I can't seem to share patches across devices at the moment, not sure if this is a bug or not, but my ipads don't detect each other in sharing mode.
@BitShapeSoft
Congrats and an awesome awesome update !
Can I also request for a intelligent randomized patch generator pretty please ?!!!!
Programming this beast is a very slow slow process and the whole point for me is to start fingering that surface
So anyway to let unicorns create semi smart random patches while mortals play the surface will be godly !!
AFAIK, this is Multipeer Connectivity being annoying. Double check you're on the same WiFi network, and try turning the Air Drop sharing off / on again (press the button in the middle of the view) for both devices. It's finicky.
Thanks!
Have you played with the Mutate functions? Also, one of my preferred ways of randomizing is per-object. Tap and hold one of the active oscillators and choose 'Mutate.' It gives you a bit more control over what exactly gets mutated.
@BitShapeSoft How would I set things up to play chromatically?
Thanks @BitShapeSoft this is a very welcome update. Going universal is particularly useful and works great on a 6S.
If TC-DATA goes universal too I will purchase that as well (Yeah I know, woo hoo one extra sale!
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On TC-Data,
4 windows and more than 1 midi channel (less than 16 midi channels) connected at the same time?
yes, please.
I would still love to record tc-11's synth play and tweaking into an external midi sequencer and play it back via that sequencer. i know it might not be within the primary purview of the apps development but music is as much about discovery as anything else and the fact that everything wouldn't translate perfectly isn't that much of an issue when you compare to not having the capability at all. I'm aware that some people are adamantly against the idea as well but I'm sure they could find some way to 'not use' the feature if midi in and out was ever implemented.
I think your desire to translate touches into MIDI is an interesting one since with TC-Data you can create MIDI recordings while playing other synth apps but you can't do this for TC-11. Perhaps an IAP for a MIDI recorder/player for TC-11 might not be a bad idea. It would store touch and sensor data while recording TC-11 and automagically translate it into a MIDI file. Using this same IAA app you could then automagically reproduce your performance by playing back the MIDI file from within the app or from another MIDI file player app. Expecting TC-11 to respond to realtime MIDI might be a much more difficult challenge to pull off not to mention finding other MIDI controllers capable of producing the appropriate MIDI stream. Even the desire to have some limited control of live MIDI playing would I think add more complexity to the app.
It's not even clear to me at all if adding recording of the touches and sensor data while playing with TC-11 would require too many resources and therefore significantly compromise the ability to play TC-11.
@BitShapeSoft Perhaps there's an opportunity to design a third TC app (TC FrankenSynth) with a design optimized to integrate, MIDI input, live touch, sensor, an option to send these to MIDI as with TC-Data, and all while playing the app's built-in synth?
Easiest way is to create a new patch with either the Scale or Two Octave Scale templates, and then check out how the patch is created. Also when you transpose a patch the oscillators will tune to a scale automatically (clarity of notes vary depending on how crazy the rest of the patch is).
Re: TC-Data: eventually it'll have the same multi mode as TC-11, and be universal. But I had to choose between updating that and another project this summer, and I decided the other project.
Re: MIDI: input is on the list so you could pull in triggers / controller data. MIDI output is not going to happen: TC-Data is the place to go so you can pick and choose the controllers you want to create.
I understand tc-data's purpose, what would be the best work around for wanting to record and play back tc-11 in my sequencer?
also does tc-data have both midi in and out, maybe the work around would be to use tc-data to control tc-11 once it has midi in and record tc-data doing so into my external sequencer... a bit convoluted but if that's the best option available then maybe it's worth a try?
Thanks! I'll look into it.
Great news about future developments for tc-data and tc-11