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  • edited August 2016

    @mannix said:
    If you look at this forum you also see that FL Studio is used more than expected.

    Fruity Loops is big no doubt, especially for dance and rap music. I used to have a PC and enjoyed when it first came out, but at the time I decided go with Reason instead. That was long time ago so I'm sure it's even better with all of the added instruments. I'll buy a copy for the Mac when it is released. I think it's in beta for the Mac now.

  • @u0421793 said:
    The most installed is probably GarageBand (it might also be the least used).

    +1

  • @MusicInclusive
    Thank you Derek, you answered to my question in the best way

  • edited August 2016

    Without pretending to be scientific, if you look for tutorials on YT what you find mostly by far is stuff about Logic, Live and FL (not necessarily in this order).
    In my opinion quality is about the same for these three, but each one has its advantages: Logic is the best priced, Live has that friendly-for-performer style, and FL is likely the best choice outside Mac (for Linux Ardour is the way, ofc).
    You may say: and Reaper? Well Reaper is really good but there is one consideration I do not see so often advanced.
    I'm not very conversant with legalese, but, if I read well the EULA, the cost of $69 is for a personal license, while a commercial license is more than $300.
    I may be wrong, if I am, pls, correct me

  • yes, your quote is perfectly correct : the software is identical up to the final bit, but both licenses cover a different context in using the application.
    I'm not shure how many cheaters are out there...
    In some cases 'honesty based' products really work, but obviously not too often...

  • @zarv said:
    @MusicInclusive
    Thank you Derek, you answered to my question in the best way

    So, makes you want to run out and download it eh? :wink:

  • @mkell424 said:

    @mannix said:
    If you look at this forum you also see that FL Studio is used more than expected.

    Fruity Loops is big no doubt, especially for dance and rap music. I used to have a PC and enjoyed when it first came out, but at the time I decided go with Reason instead. That was long time ago so I'm sure it's even better with all of the added instruments. I'll buy a copy for the Mac when it is released. I think it's in beta for the Mac now.

    Still in Alpha, though it's coming along nicely.

  • @MusicInclusive -- thanks for your info. I installed Tracktion5 simply enough. Then I checked the videos on YouTube, which are very helpful. It took me a few tries to get audio and midi going but, hey it wasn't too bad and now...it all works! I have SynthMaster Player VST, V-Station, Bass Station and several free VSTs working. This was a lot easier to do than expected.

    I've a lot to learn but luckily my only real experinice on DAWs is with iOS so I'm not entrenched in a certain workflow on the desktop. Oh and as far as single screens go, one Tacktion5 video mentioned that you can detach a tab and move it to a second monitor...I can't check that out just yet but seems like a good feature.

  • @TozBourne said:
    @MusicInclusive -- thanks for your info. I installed Tracktion5 simply enough. Then I checked the videos on YouTube, which are very helpful. It took me a few tries to get audio and midi going but, hey it wasn't too bad and now...it all works! I have SynthMaster Player VST, V-Station, Bass Station and several free VSTs working. This was a lot easier to do than expected.

    I've a lot to learn but luckily my only real experinice on DAWs is with iOS so I'm not entrenched in a certain workflow on the desktop. Oh and as far as single screens go, one Tacktion5 video mentioned that you can detach a tab and move it to a second monitor...I can't check that out just yet but seems like a good feature.

    :+1: You are right. You can detach a tab to a second monitor, but everything is still within that tab. On the desktop, a lot of times people will have the track view on one monitor and the mixer view on another. You can't separate those in Tracktion.

  • @Telefunky said:
    yes, your quote is perfectly correct : the software is identical up to the final bit, but both licenses cover a different context in using the application.
    I'm not shure how many cheaters are out there...
    In some cases 'honesty based' products really work, but obviously not too often...

    Just a clarification about the Reaper license: you can be selling up to $20,000 a year with the tunes you produce in Reaper, and still be covered by the 'non-professional' discounted license.

  • Cubase Elements 8 and Ableton Live.

  • Logic , FL , AL ...But i have no licences,please don't Tell ! (that s Why im on the iPad now ) .

  • i'm starting a club for fl studio users who don't make dance music, just the weird stuff, garbagecore, we'll congregate in the alley behind 7/11...

  • @grego68 said:
    Logic , FL , AL ...But i have no licences,please don't Tell ! (that s Why im on the iPad now ) .

    A ton of FL users start with no license, but when you do finally pony up for one you feel like a Good Citizen for a few hours.

  • edited August 2016

    How about Ardour? It's open source and the devs just released a Windows verison. Any Ardour users here?
    https://ardour.org

  • @TozBourne said:
    How about Ardour? It's open source and the devs just released a Windows verison. Any Ardour users here?
    https://ardour.org

    I see this stuff and just think, do i want to lose weeks learning a new DAW...

  • @TozBourne said:
    How about Ardour? It's open source and the devs just released a Windows verison. Any Ardour users here?
    https://ardour.org

    Ardour is an amazing initiative, and Paul Davis is to Linux what Rim is to iOS. That said, Ardour lags behind all major DAWs in features, usability, stability and third party support (this on Linux), and JACK drivers are huge huge PITA. Of course this can change, and Ardour 5 is around the corner.

  • edited August 2016

    @rhcball agree, and I just got Tracktion5 installed on Win7 which is what I'll stick with for a while.

    @theconnactic - Thanks, I was mostly just curious and thats good stuff to know.

  • edited August 2016

    @TozBourne said:
    How about Ardour? It's open source and the devs just released a Windows verison. Any Ardour users here?
    https://ardour.org

    I built Ardour 5 (just released) from source on Linux yesterday and it's working nicely. I'd done the same with Ardour 4 previously. I use it from time-to-time - not often - with the iConnectAUDIO4+ (which works great with Linux! :smiley: ) to test things out. Can record, e.g. audio and MIDI from Animoog into Ardour on Linux just fine.

    It's not bad at all. Workflow is reasonably nice, and familiar.

    Harrison MixBus is based on Ardour, but of course, they add their smarts too. However, now, with release 5 of Ardour, one can use the HMB FX with Ardour too (for $).

    Here's a screenshot I did after I built it yesterday. Not in this case recording from an iPad, (although it was connected via the iCA4+) but using Carla to host Windoze VSTs.

    Here's the thing: everything in these two screenshots is free :smiley:

    The "Capture" 1-8 below and the "Playback" 1-8 are the iCA4+

    I was driving 4Front here from an Xkey25 plugged in to Linux too. That's MIDI Capture 11. The other MIDI channels are again from the iCA4+.

    And... here's one I did with Ardour 4 a little while back where I was running the iPad in via the iCA2+, capturing (successively) iSEM, iMini and Animoog.

    Again - I was driving the MIDI from an Xkey 25 there.

    As an aside, you can go the other way too. Here I'm capturing Odsay running under Carla on Linux, being driven by the Xkey 25, and recorded into Auria Pro :smile:

  • Was messing about with Ableton Live 9.6 and Logic X last night...Apple really have improved the latter so much in recent years: Alchemy is great, MIDI clock has been tightened up, the gradual modernising of the (still excellent) built-in effects....

    However, for integration with iOS, Live 9.6 is just so much more fluid, I think. Not just due to Link, but also because Touchable 3 makes the whole experience much more fun. I've been using Live for 9 years and never liked Session View....Touchable has changed that, as I can now see the almost souped-up-MPC-like qualities of sequencing my hardware & iOS devices on the fly this way. Logic now feels too linear. I prefer "feeling" the music, rather than looking at a track's structure laid out before me.

  • If you're a tinkerer, Ardour could be a fun (and free) challenge, if you build it from the source code!

  • None at the moment. I do own Logic Pro X, but I'm 100% iPad Pro for now though I sometimes daydream about getting another Mac. The thing is there is so much more interesting and not to mention less expensive software for the iPad and the touch interface is so much more intuitive and enjoyable to use. Going back to the Mac would be giving up more than I'd gain at this point.

  • edited August 2016

    @rhcball said:

    @TozBourne said:
    How about Ardour? It's open source and the devs just released a Windows verison. Any Ardour users here?
    https://ardour.org

    I see this stuff and just think, do i want to lose weeks learning a new DAW...

    don't worry - that's toy stuff... here's hardcore and it's rather months than weeks >:)
    http://www.sawstudio.com/products_sawstudio.htm
    funny thread from the Reaper forum regarding SAW:
    http://forums.cockos.com/showthread.php?p=449519
    (mostly ranting, but post number 11 has some points...)

    cheers, Tom

  • @Telefunky said:

    @rhcball said:

    @TozBourne said:
    How about Ardour? It's open source and the devs just released a Windows verison. Any Ardour users here?
    https://ardour.org

    I see this stuff and just think, do i want to lose weeks learning a new DAW...

    don't worry - that's toy stuff... here's hardcore and it's rather months than weeks >:)
    http://www.sawstudio.com/products_sawstudio.htm
    funny thread from the Reaper forum regarding SAW:
    http://forums.cockos.com/showthread.php?p=449519
    (mostly ranting, but post number 11 has some points...)

    cheers, Tom

    Immediate pain in both my eyes, looking at the first photo on the site.

  • absolutely - but with only 1 channel on the left and a few channels of the 'big mixer' on the right side it's not that hard anymor (screen layout is highly configurable... and skinable)
    No beauty, but surprisingly few eye-strain during sustained edit sessions

  • @Telefunky said:

    @rhcball said:

    @TozBourne said:
    How about Ardour? It's open source and the devs just released a Windows verison. Any Ardour users here?
    https://ardour.org

    I see this stuff and just think, do i want to lose weeks learning a new DAW...

    http://www.sawstudio.com/products_sawstudio.htm

    Purchase price $2,500 vs. Ardour - free (if you build it from source :smile: )

  • @MusicInclusive said:

    @Telefunky said:

    @rhcball said:

    @TozBourne said:
    How about Ardour? It's open source and the devs just released a Windows verison. Any Ardour users here?
    https://ardour.org

    I see this stuff and just think, do i want to lose weeks learning a new DAW...

    http://www.sawstudio.com/products_sawstudio.htm

    Purchase price $2,500 vs. Ardour - free (if you build it from source :smile: )

    Or I could stick with what works, also currently free.

    ("building from source" is a concept I don't feel ready for)

  • @rhcball said:

    @MusicInclusive said:

    @Telefunky said:

    @rhcball said:

    @TozBourne said:
    How about Ardour? It's open source and the devs just released a Windows verison. Any Ardour users here?
    https://ardour.org

    I see this stuff and just think, do i want to lose weeks learning a new DAW...

    http://www.sawstudio.com/products_sawstudio.htm

    Purchase price $2,500 vs. Ardour - free (if you build it from source :smile: )

    Or I could stick with what works, also currently free.

    ("building from source" is a concept I don't feel ready for)

    What do you use that's free currently?

  • @MusicInclusive said:

    @rhcball said:

    @MusicInclusive said:

    @Telefunky said:

    @rhcball said:

    @TozBourne said:
    How about Ardour? It's open source and the devs just released a Windows verison. Any Ardour users here?
    https://ardour.org

    I see this stuff and just think, do i want to lose weeks learning a new DAW...

    http://www.sawstudio.com/products_sawstudio.htm

    Purchase price $2,500 vs. Ardour - free (if you build it from source :smile: )

    Or I could stick with what works, also currently free.

    ("building from source" is a concept I don't feel ready for)

    What do you use that's free currently?

    FL Studio is free, to keep using, as I already bought it (and free updates). Migrating around to other DAWs at this point feels the same as jumping on every new music app, some pathology at the core of my thought-being.

  • @rhcball said:

    @MusicInclusive said:

    @rhcball said:

    @MusicInclusive said:

    @Telefunky said:

    @rhcball said:

    @TozBourne said:
    How about Ardour? It's open source and the devs just released a Windows verison. Any Ardour users here?
    https://ardour.org

    I see this stuff and just think, do i want to lose weeks learning a new DAW...

    http://www.sawstudio.com/products_sawstudio.htm

    Purchase price $2,500 vs. Ardour - free (if you build it from source :smile: )

    Or I could stick with what works, also currently free.

    ("building from source" is a concept I don't feel ready for)

    What do you use that's free currently?

    FL Studio is free, to keep using, as I already bought it (and free updates). Migrating around to other DAWs at this point feels the same as jumping on every new music app, some pathology at the core of my thought-being.

    Oh - I see what you mean. Yes. Perpetual licensing is IMO the best option.

    I work in multiple DAWs for a variety of reasons. Studio One Pro for ease of workflow, Pro Tools for "industry standard" compatibility and, actually, the most reliable MIDI import for a number of projects that I work with (yeah - go figure!), Logic because it comes free with Alchemy now :wink: :wink: , Live because other people I work with from time to time use Live, (same with Reaper). etc.

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