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Before I had financial problems, that was my intended route. I would like to see more hardware that can be a central hub for multiple iPads.
If you look at the cost of that BIG Korg keyboard that is basically £3000. Now take:
2x Casio PX5s
3x iPads (2x plus the one I have)
1x IConnect 4
1x midi pads of some kind (Launchpad pro maybe)
1x small mixer
That's 8 total midi zones over 2 full size key beds. Back up keys in case an iPad app went screwy live. 12 sliders and 8 knobs for controlling your sounds or fading in sounds. One iPad and controller for launching beats or running backing tracks.
Yes more upkeep than the Korg, but way more options!
That's the main reason I stick with all in one apps these days.
Yes, me too. Usually, Gadget or Cubasis with internal instruments. Too bad my iPad can't run AU's
Sometimes I use two apps: a sequencer like Genome and a sound module like bs-16i, iM1 or Thumbjam. But even with just two apps, I don't like the experience.
I prefer the 'all-in-one' apps on iOS and the arrival of AU-X makes this a bit smoother...
When using an external BT-Keyboard with the iPad it's possible to use the alt/command + tab to switch apps
I guess the 'awkward' app-switching has led me to work with 'tweak-render-export-import' work-flow.
Yes, I've been thinking about it. Just can't afford a new ipad right now. So, when at home, I connect my old ipad to my laptop and it works really well - not very portable, but ok.
Also, another problem - I like to work in the park and carrying two ipads with me is too much I think
It is tremendous. For those, who play live. I don't. Well, not yet
It's why I firmly believe in AU having a bright future.
Also add the price of apps...Can be more than 600 €...
But for the setup, that's the way I've choosen, and it's really good fun.
Except that the single keyboard almost never crash or make artefacts...And it's almost impossible, at the moment, to have 10 minutes straight with an ipad without a single problem.
Consider also the time to organise your setup : it's really mad when you've got all these possibilities, and so many different apps (some of them can take that particular midi channel, or does not send feedback, or crash) and also limitations of each controller...(that's a huge thing to think about also...)
I begin to enjoy my new setup, but it took MONTHS before it starts to run...And no real music produced during that time...It's an investment that you may don't want to do...
Yes: that's why I try to do everything inside Auria Pro. But I cannot resist using Drum Perfect, Thumbjam & DrumJam, Korg Synths, AppChordions, SampleTank etc. So AudioBus is still my best friend on iOS.
I totally agree, AU is the future.
It's from my own perspective. I already own one iPad and more apps than I can even get to grips with in my life time..
My use is different to your own. I never have 35 apps running at one time (did you not say this in another thread?). My experience so far (the way I run it) is of very few crashes. That's not me saying there are not problems or that you are not correct in your assumptions as you find them. It's just a different experience for me. Yes I still think some tightening up of OS and apps is called for and needed.
As for single keyboards almost never crashing, that's kind of not true with some of them. Some keyboards are basically a computer inside (complete with noisy fan etc), they are just not as reliable as we remember keyboards being. Even some just rom based keyboards can be problematic at times. I've had loads of hardware over the years and many had bugs in their OS that were never fixed. I've had many with faulty knobs, dials, screens, battery's, dry solder etc etc.
Your problems with your iPads is similar to running most software setups. They have potential to be problematic and for you this is happening. Not all set ups and ways of using will always have the same problems though.
The setup I've outlined has many ways to back up the player from issues. Both keyboards have a large range of sounds in an emergency. Both keyboards have battery power backup. Multiple iPads does protect against one going wrong.
Yes, you can never make everything perfectly reliable of safe to gig, yet I am able to run my iPad reliably within certain guidelines I restrict it too. I believe though, that you ask much more of your iPads at any one time then I, so your issues and ultimately, your solutions will be different to mine.
I wish you good luck with your set up and hope things improve for the future
32 apps yes, but on 3 ipads, that makes an average 10 on each, and never goes up to 30% of loading (from AUM % meter) on each...
I agree, it's wise to have emergency b plans, I'm going that way also. All I'm saying, is that even with backup plans, and no neat crash, you'll have some glitches or numeric noises, completely random...No matter how many apps you're running. (of course you're increasing the chances with lots of apps...)
I also believe that's related to the OS itself. Hopefully, it will be fixed soon...(big hopes with IOS 10...)
I believe it's related on the ressources at launching and killing apps, but there's also something with the audio flux, while everything is running smoothly. Might be related with the sound card also...
I also remembering banging my Ensoniq's keyboards to make it boot...
Sorts of things...
Thanks for your kind comment, wish you the best also
"I also remembering banging my Ensoniq's keyboards to make it boot...
Sorts of things...
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Thanks for your kind comment, wish you the best also
Which Ensoniq did you have? They made some interesting synths.
@crony hoping its early days for iOS. My experiences of computers in my early days making music was 10% time making music, 90% time sorting issues
+1 I love loading up multiple instances of synths and FX via Aum.
@Fruitbat1919 I had a VFX-SD2 (greatest synth I ever owned I wish I never sold it !!! ) a TS-12, and also a TS-10 at some point an ASR-X, and also ASR-X pro !
The midi was a bit buggy sometimes on some of them...But what a great sound...
Was the VFX the one just before the Fizmo? I had the issue of Sound On Sound with the VFX in it!
The Fizmo (the Graal of Ensoniq...With the ASR10 also...) ...Wow
All I remember is the VFX came after the SQ1 , but before the SD1. I think the Fizmo was released around the same time of the TS10, so almost at the end of life of Ensoniq...I might be wrong...
+1 on the Bitwig and touch interface view. I use it on a Yoga 2-in-1 touchscreen and works great!
Did anyone tried the new Bluetooth Midi on Windows 10?
I used Modstep and MidiFlow . Paired fine on a cheap Atom based tablet.
It keeps crashing Reaper 4, MidiOX when I open the ports. Only way it works is open the Bluetooth midi port from "MidiTranslator Pro" ( advanced utility to convert midi) and route to a virtual port.
Latency is VERY LOW!
Which Bluetooth over Midi for Windows 10?
The only thing I can come up with is, this beta... Which is a headache to install (Because it requires an older version of iTunes)...
http://www.synthtopia.com/content/2015/03/12/midi-le-for-windows-beta-now-available/
It's already build in ,in the last Win10 update. Try to pair and launch an app that supports bluetooth. Windows make a new midi port