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Cubasis gets my songs out efficiently, then it all gets exported to auria for final effects and mixing.
Sales are tempting but in all honesty for your needs I think you are set with what you already have. in my case I picked up Cubasis because I have devices that can't handle the power of Auria.
I think you're right. I'm just getting seduced by a sale. I was just trying out some of the aux fx automation in AP another user recently schooled me on. And I've been digging deeper into AP ever since I upgraded. Pretty cool and likely already more DAW than I really need. If I'm being honest, MultiTrack DAW is really enough for my needs. I went with AP for the video module. I think I'm good for now. Thanks for the reality check.
You can do more with SOUND in Auria because it's a far more fully- fledged mixing environment. The only reason you might want to consider Cubasis is for AU support, but Auria will get that too in time so I think you would be better off sticking with what you already have and learning it to the fullest.
In fact your money could better spent on Auria plugins. Timeless, PSP Echo, or Volcano would all makes excellent sound-design additions.
I suppose this sort of dilemma is contingent upon what bias one has regarding whether midi or audio is the prime matter that music stuff is made of.
I have been a long term Cubasis user, I recently bought AP in the sale (have not shelled out for any IAPs yet), Like many have said, Cubasis is quick and easy for getting tunes together and AP is a really nice mixing environment.
I could do everything in one or the other, once AP gets AUx for FX that is (I can use AUx instruments via AUM-AB-AP). I am holding off on a decision as to which I am going to commit my short term future to until I know exactly what features are coming in Cubasis 2.0
More and more good quality AUx's are being released and I don't think it will be long before we get AUx's to rival the quality of the AP IAP's.
With that thought in mind, for me the AP mixing environment has 3 distinct advantages, Mixer Busses, decent metering and HUI control. If the Cubasis 2.0 update brings these 3 things to Cubasis then it will be a very hard call on which to keep.
Does anyone know what might be in Cubasis 2? Would be awesome if Link support was added.
Despite having both excellent Auria Pro and Multitrackstudio I picked it up with the hardware LE unlock upgrade. The hazards of being an ios music completist....
Their will be no LINK support
oh well, maybe in v2.5?
How do you know this?
Maybe a beta tester?
In that case NDA is 'broken'
I doubt it, else they probably just broke an NDA !
I don't have either- but am thinking of getting one- I am in the audio camp- just to be clear- which one is best for audio?
They've declared it publicly
If they only fixed the useless zoom in V2 I would be a happy camper.
That should be fixed in the 2.0 update as far as can be read between the lines
With or without Link it will be a very welcome update once it hits the AppStore...
(I already have my 'list' of issues to check when it's released released, hopefully no major bummers this time).
I'll be pretty 'vocal' if a triplet-grid is missing, it's an unforgivable fail it it's not there...
(I mean seriously, what use is there to quantise to a value when there are no matching grids?).
I think Lars specifically said it was fixed.
@skiphunt - have you tried AUM yet? There seem to be so many "right" ways to use it - but for me it's like a playground; very easy to mess with things in multiple apps in real time. Kinda sound like that would be up your alley, and the cool thing is it can output to separate tracks in either Auria or Cubasis for editing/mixing etc...
did anyone hear of the possible release date?
I just bought Cubasis last night due to the sale and I instantly bonded with it. Time will tell if the finished products in there turn out as I'd hoped, but the interface actually works and feels like it belongs on iOS. Most of the top-shelf DAW's (Auria, Cubasis, MTS, etc.) at this point have like 95% of the same functionality, but perhaps different ways of arriving at that result. Cubasis has a layout for adding tracks, editing note data, and routing MIDI, audio, and effects that is instantly familiar to anyone who's tinkered around with a desktop DAW, and it actually works on a touchscreen. Things that Auria or even MTS might send you to a drag-down menu or separate screen for are right in front of you with Cubasis - and I didn't even peek at a manual.
That being said, I can't say you "need" both. I certainly didn't. But had I bought Cubasis first, maybe I don't bother to do the Auria Pro upgrade. It's true that Auria features a much deeper "playground" of plug-in content and ways to spend money to enhance your sound. But it's also true that the evolution of AudioBus and IAA from 2012 to the present, as well as the implementation of AU plugins over the past year (slower than desired, but still progressing) have very much leveled that playing field. In other words, if there's a $20 IAP in Auria that you really like for finishing your sound, there's a good chance that some IAA or AU app can serve a similar feature, and without even leaving the DAW. I have to think this was part of the reason that Auria Pro is loaded to the brim with features, but omits AU support - it works to defeat the one primary advantage that Auria had over other DAW's, which were the plugins that only worked in the Auria ecosystem.
So, do we actually know what is or might be in the 2.0 upgrade? Forgive me for asking - I've been a Cubasis owner for all of 16 hours, so I haven't been reading the past 3 months or so of Cubasis-related threads that might have discussed this.
Nothing immediately jumped out to me as "missing" from Cubasis, but that's mostly my inexperience with it and preference for its U.I. compared to its rivals. Quantization in the editor certainly worked (and again, love that it's just on the main screen and not in a drop-down menu somewhere), but I could see an "auto" feature being desired. I was really amazed how easy it was for me to set up a 2-bar loop and record quantized drum parts one instrument at a time...that's really only something I had done before in a dedicated beatbox app (like Maschine).
There's probably some common sense tweaks that could be made to the MIDI editing grid, though that's a never-ending pursuit...
It's not just the plugins that make Auria superior, it's also the mixing and editing features: busses, sub groups, aux sends, crossfading audio regions. Bread and butter mixing tools that are simply absent in Cubasis.
However I do agree that Cubasis has a nice interface and the IAA and AB routing are very nicely implemented and easy to use.
Cubasis cannot quantize audio, either manually or automatically. Cubasis has not the options of triplets, tuplets etc for the grid. Cubasis still lack time stretching or pitch shifting. If you want to produce a song with different time signatures and tempos, such as this one -
It's not really a matter of fixing but changing/improving and how successful their new 'design' for this is will likely define how successful this release is judged to be by many users. No pressure
soon...
Tease
I know you already got some answers but since I understand a bit more of what you're doing I'll throw my opinion at you. You are set with AuriaPro, (errr...as soon as AP gets the iOS 10 fix). I say that as a big Cubasis user and Auria "non-pro" owner.
So for future generations of forum members I think we need to codify this Imminent Language: I believe all we can say so far is that soon can be listed as closer to the release than in a moment.
We can also say that whatever language is used, the words mean 'a few seconds closer than when you first started typing the message to ask when'
Thanks Toz. That means a good deal as I know you're a big Cubasis fan, but also get what I'm more interested in after our coffee shop visit. We should do that again soon!