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  • @Bluepunk said:

    @JohnnyGoodyear said:

    @supadom said:
    I also smoke dope occasionally which doesn't make me a junkie.

    Good fair line even for those of us who are part of that para-military group The Ex-Junkie Tendency.

    +1 Don't forget the Regimental reunion. Liverpool, The Adelphi, Oct......

    As a Yank, I don't get the references, but this one works for me. image

  • @MonzoPro said:

    @supadom said:
    Vast majority of my fb friends are smart and a source of my local and further afield news. I think people dislike Facebook simply because they cannot handle it wisely.

    Thanks to Facebook I also can keep up with my brother whom I haven't seen in 6 years and father who hasn't seen me in 4. Also other friends I haven't seen in donkeys

    Yep, I've reconnected with a few old friends and family members courtesy of FB, so I'll always be grateful for that. It's what it does best.

    But it does have a dark side, and more ulterior motives than an old Etonian politician, so I use with care.

    I've got a mate who set up a company that works with FB and it's 'matrix'. Tellingly his FB profile is virtually blank.

    Most of my friends on FB are either artists or activists or both, which I admit, makes me feel like I'm living in an open minded world. And yes, of course there is a lot of charged articles out there but they aren't exclusive to facebook.

    As far as data milking is concerned that is a real worry, not because of its commercial value but how easily it can be used for other means. I'm afraid though leaving facebook is far from enough. One would have to opt out of the whole thing. Then again, that might make things even worse as being plugged in gives one at least illusion of being in control.

    Remember Arab spring? Some may say it was CIA orchestration, I prefer thinking of it as a real social uprising. Dumb me.

  • edited October 2016

    I think our collective contrarian streak binds us. IOS ...it's an u feeding thing, you've gotta admit.

  • @supadom said:

    there is a lot of charged articles out there but they aren't exclusive to facebook.

    Yeah but Facebook gathers a heck of a lot of data about you over the years - and with the steady march of the right wing it's best to keep them guessing if you don't sing to their tune.

    Don't tell them your name, Pike.

  • edited October 2016

    @MonzoPro said:

    @supadom said:

    there is a lot of charged articles out there but they aren't exclusive to facebook.

    Yeah but Facebook gathers a heck of a lot of data about you over the years - and with the steady march of the right wing it's best to keep them guessing if you don't sing to their tune.

    Don't tell them your name, Pike.

    >
    The left wing is "marching" and watching us too, Pike.
    Congratulations, you've just started a Facebook thread on AF.

  • Audiobus forum all the way! Everyone here is so helpful, friendly, and good natured for the most part. Granted it helps we have a specific field of focus, but still. I just keep Facebook around in case friends decide to contact or make plans through it. They are learning not to though!

  • @MonzoPro said:

    @supadom said:

    Don't tell them your name, Pike.

    This is what I miss about England the most.

  • @JohnnyGoodyear said:
    This is what I miss about England the most.

    Are you sure it's not the spotted dick?

  • @telecharge said:

    @JohnnyGoodyear said:
    This is what I miss about England the most.

    Are you sure it's not the spotted dick?

    No, no, seriously, I have all the spotted dick I can handle, but the look on John Le Mesurier's face as Arthur Lowe exhaustedly spits out "Stupid boy" at Ian Lavender with his scarf up around his neck is a whole slice of cause and effect I never come across in any real form in America. Class and loathing, bumptiousness and pomposity, but, more than anything, satire. I miss it.

  • but, more than anything, satire. I miss it.

  • @supadom said:
    I think people dislike Facebook simply because they cannot handle it wisely.

    That would be me, I most definitely cannot handle it wisely. It got to the point where I'd post somethpost and be checking my phone at every traffic light to see who would respond, and get depressed and angry when people didn't. Not a healthy pattern...

    It was actually the Auria video contest, when I couldn't get any of my Facebook "friends" to vote or even view my video (including family), and then got very very angry about it, that I had a distinct moment of clarity in realizing that my entire self worth was being tied up in that. I deleted my account that night.

    So I also have other reasons for loving auria besides the fact its a cool app that allowed me to actually complete a project. In a way it saved my life.

    Hopefully that wasn't over sharing, but it's the truth. I don't have a problem with others using Facebook, but I know that I can't handle it. This board and sometimes talkbass is about as social as my media gets.

  • I miss MySpace.

  • @brambos I've got to say snapchat is pretty good for quick sharing of video. Could be interesting (helpful even for feedback) to be able to send quick shots/videos of ideas/setups to people interested and willing.

  • Whenever a link takes me to Facebook, I suddenly feel the urge to break the screen of whatever device I am currently holding.

    Whereas when I come to the Audiobus forum, the feeling is akin to sinking into my favourite easychair on a quiet Sunday afternoon with a cup of tea.

  • Really, I tried to join iPad Musician on Facebook a few times but they simply won't let me. Funny.

    Interesting testimonial, @mrufino1!

  • I didn't even create my Facebook account. Someone else did using my email address, so I "adopted" it. o:)

    @theconnactic I assure you, you're not missing out on much. There's a few cool folks there, a few of which are here, but other than that "the content" isn't much different from here except there is a higher concentration of blowhards like me on FB. There is no secret sauce.

  • Well, most Desktop audio applications that used to keep forums moved to Facebook. We could perhaps use their Facebook public pages to lobby for iOS versions of their apps.

  • @theconnactic said:
    Well, most Desktop audio applications that used to keep forums moved to Facebook. We could perhaps use their Facebook public pages to lobby for iOS versions of their apps.

    I'm sure they're in both places, but if someone wants to lobby and doesn't like Facebook, you'll usually find a developer's presence on http://www.kvraudio.com. Results may vary with how engaged they are. There's even a Mobile Apps & Hardware forum there, but I've never posted in it and it doesn't see a lot of traffic. It's mostly about desktop/laptop-centric music production on KVR.

  • @theconnactic said:
    Really, I tried to join iPad Musician on Facebook a few times but they simply won't let me. Funny.

    Seriously? What assholes.

  • edited October 2016

    @supadom said:
    I think people dislike Facebook simply because they cannot handle it wisely.

    Disagree strongly there. There is no sense of responsibility from those supposedly in charge of FB or Twitter. So many creative folk just don't bother because whatever small gain there is to be had is squashed flat by despicable pond life who - from the safety of their keyboards - are free to defame and abuse.

    During my brief foray on Twitter, I encountered one such individual who annoyed me so much with his vile personal abuse and deliberate targeting of my product, merely for disagreeing over a point under discussion. I would quite happily have tracked him down to his office and asked his boss if he knew this was going on. Except, the twerp turned out to be a Brit working in Japan.

    If FB and Twitter closed down tomorrow, it would be a very good thing.

  • Never done the a*rsebook thing and have no intention to do so. Saying that, I found that this place was more of a really great resource in the past, than of late. Maybe I've been here too long (?)

  • @Igneous1 said:
    Maybe I've been here too long (?)

    It depends whether you enjoy the community or not. It definitely makes sense the forum will have less useful information as time goes on if you're increasing your knowledge base correspondingly.

  • About 25% of my time on here is spent feeding my appaholism and learning how to use them, the other 75% is akin to going down the pub and chewing the fat/bickering with the locals.

  • @lukesleepwalker said:
    I miss MySpace.

    Those were the days!

  • Like it or not this is where we are with digital communication now. It's only going to get even more incomprehensible and scary. Unfortunately many of us will look with a frown (while sitting on a new generation fireplace and fingering our surfaces) at our kids engaging in ever so bizarre (yet predictable) twists in evolution of media technologies.

    It is a massively 'close zoom' world view to be discussing the ills of the social media while contributing to a 'Facebook vs AB' thread on a social forum. In my mind it is the same beast just dressed in different clothes. The beast that in major part resides in our heads.

  • edited October 2016

    @supadom said:
    In my mind it is the same beast just dressed in different clothes. The beast that in major part resides in our heads.

    >

    AB forum has its share of disagreements (I lurked, reading for some time before joining) frivolity and friction. But trolls aren't allowed. Sebastian sees to that, while allowing a great deal of space for freedom of expression. More often than not, those posting here do have something to say, irrespective of whether that something is pure fun, well considered comment or a technical point.

    Whereas, Facebook and Twitter appeals to those who want to feel like people they've never met approve of or envy them. All that bollocks about friending and followers. Utterly pathetic ego massaging. As you must know, those figures can easily be faked. So what is the point? Even the other social site I'm familiar with, Digjtal Spy, has become overrun by PC madness and heavy handed censorship. Implimented by moderators from the Land of the Free!

  • edited October 2016

    @Nkersov said:

    @supadom said:
    In my mind it is the same beast just dressed in different clothes. The beast that in major part resides in our heads.

    >

    AB forum has its share of disagreements (I lurked, reading for some time before joining) frivolity and friction. But trolls aren't allowed. Sebastian sees to that, while allowing a great deal of space for freedom of expression. More often than not, those posting here do have something to say, irrespective of whether that something is pure fun, well considered comment or a technical point.

    Whereas, Facebook and Twitter appeals to those who want to feel like people they've never met approve of or envy them. All that bollocks about friending and followers. Utterly pathetic ego massaging. As you must know, those figures can easily be faked. So what is the point? Even the other social site I'm familiar with, Digjtal Spy, has become overrun by PC madness and heavy handed censorship. Implimented by moderators from the Land of the Free!

    I'm glad someone responded, my thumb and ego were tired of refreshing ;)

    But seriously. Facebook is what uses make of it. Looks like your experience of Facebook is very different from mine. Maybe because I simply mostly add people whom I know personally and have some affinity with. With that in mind I see 'like my page' behaviour mostly if not always genuine.

    I'm not writing for the Facebook experience as a whole. More like my Facebook experience and what I've made and still make of it.

    The whole net is a very dangerous place if you don't engage your G cells to interact with it.

  • @supadom said:
    Like it or not this is where we are with digital communication now. It's only going to get even more incomprehensible and scary. Unfortunately many of us will look with a frown (while sitting on a new generation fireplace and fingering our surfaces) at our kids engaging in ever so bizarre (yet predictable) twists in evolution of media technologies.

    It is a massively 'close zoom' world view to be discussing the ills of the social media while contributing to a 'Facebook vs AB' thread on a social forum. In my mind it is the same beast just dressed in different clothes. The beast that in major part resides in our heads.

    I disagree

    They are entirely different beasts. Facebook's main purpose is to gather your data and use it for advertising. You know when you see one of those FB like or share buttons on another website? Yea, they can track what site and page you're on simply by your browser loading those buttons. This happens automatically. Imagine that data they're getting from everyone and what it can be used for

    Also, FB promotes echo chambers. People who get their news from Twitter and FB gets them from things they follow which means they will rarely have their opinions challenged. If they do it will almost always devolve into people flaming each other

    Only recently FB and Twitter were accused of 'tweaking' their algorithm so topics that were positive towards Clinton were trending despite their own statistics showing they shouldn't be. Even if they're innocent, it's something to consider. With so many people relying on those sites it would be very easy to manipulate them if the site owners so desired

    Audiobus on the other hand, is an old school forum. You don't need to connect it to the rest of your online presence and i'm positive they don't collect user data in order to sell it. They don't track you on 3rd party sites either

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