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I don’t use FB; it just looks like a mess to me. So I don’t even know why it’s being compared to this forum. Why should I think about choosing one rather than the other? Some members of my family use FB to keep in touch with each other and share pics, what’s going on and such. So, apparently, it’s useful to them. Maybe they’re just not as smart as some of you here.
Well, I was gonna say, but I didn't want to appear rude.
I didn't know that there there was a FB group for which if I read the postings here you have to apply for. Seems like an exclusive club.
I don't see it as choosing one over the other or being smarter. I'm not a fan of FB, but from an information consumption standpoint, there's not a lot of difference between there and here. Anything that is a "big deal" will be discussed in both places.
Many of us are pressed for time, so FB offers the convenience of keeping up with friends/family and your own interests in one location.
Facebook led me to
this:
http://www.commondreams.org/views/2016/10/21/capitalism-doomed-without-alternatives-so-are-we?utm_content=buffer99268&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer
this
and this
https://secure.avaaz.org/campaign/en/bialowieza_forest_11/
It enriched my knowledge through people who share what they found interesting and I don't mean pictures of cats or epic fails (nothing wrong with those either).
I am greatful it exists for this and many other reasons.
If it doesn't work for you, don't use it. Simple.
http://gizmodo.com/former-facebook-workers-we-routinely-suppressed-conser-1775461006
http://gizmodo.com/facebook-employees-asked-mark-zuckerberg-if-they-should-1771012990
I'm sure there's no blood on the clothes you're wearing.
Shhh, the grownups are talking
By the way i thought you wanted this thread closed?
Why are you still posting in it then?
Facebook can be an enriching experience, if you put the time into setting up and filtering what you want to see or hear. In my case, it's unfollowing my family and friends, but remain friends, and following my interests. Then every so often, when I wonder how a particular family or friend has been doing, I go to their page and scroll their feed. Cause in my case, the majority of garbage comes from them sharing other stupid people's memes and opinions.
As far as ipad related music is concerned, in my experience FB fails. It ends up people just spam their own music without ever contributing. Perhaps something exists, but i haven't found it.
How about a Sunday puppet show?
I was on FB while I was running for political office back around '12 - when the campaign ended so did FB. But I rejoined for the Circuit Owners group, and have since followed some app pages etc., but no friends. LinkedIN has been great for me - in the academic realm, it's given me access to quite a few leaders, access to data, interviews, resources.
I'm the guy who posted this originally.. . I know the two are different, but I was only comparing their addictive qualities insofar at feeling I need to check in daily first thing in the morning if now the evening also.. As far as tracking, Yesha, your interests are being monitored but not much else.. The government is not reading your posts unless you give them good reason to..
As hard as politics on Facebook, the group I see posting most about the subject are musicians. Real climate scientists, economists, historians of note aren't on there.
They may not be reading them, but they're collecting them in case they need to read them. At least, that's my assumption.
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The three letter guys have already been caught feeding everything they can lay their hands on into vast arrays of servers, which then analyse it for content that may need to be passed to human eyes. Keyword tracking, etc.
But back to what you said concerning addictive qualities, FB does seem to cast a spell over many of those who use it - and are used by it - causing them to feel compelled to check it many times a day. Despite the largely banal content. AB forum doesn't seem like that to me. Sure, I drop in most days, often more than once, but this is primarily a specialised source of info and comment. We also have the luxury of threads like this, for side conversations. Yet no one here needs or wants 'followers' or 'electric friends' and what we post is not being sold to marketing companies or used to target us as individuals. Instead, we can have a very good and open exchange with developers, which is mutually beneficial.
And then Jimmy Perry, one of the writers of Dad's Army, just upped and died on us. Poignant explanation of the derivation of stupid boy here in his obit.
As an aside, I have long collected obits written by people who themselves had died by the time the obits were required. There's something almost elegant, along with ironic, about such things. Here is an old poem:
It is a novelist’s oddity
that the obituary of the historian
Eric Hobsbawm
published in The Guardian
newspaper of England
was written by Dorothy Wedderburn.
He died on October 1st.
She, Dorothy, died also
a little less than two weeks
before him on September 20th.
Her obituary in the same newspaper
was written by him.
Which is why I don’t understand the comparison. This is a specialized forum for iOS musicians. It’s moderated. FB, like any general open social media mechanism, is for everyone of any interest, including many who just want to troll or talk about the weather. There are hundreds of other unmoderated forums online for various interests where some people act like antisocial children. That’s not unique to FB. FB, as far as I know, is primarily about connecting family and friends, and for businesses to have an internet presence. Many people make friends or are inspired by similar interests. As long as it’s used as intended, it seems to work fine for a lot of people. The fact that it gets abused should surprise no one.
And it sounds like maybe some paranoia involved but, in any case, the world we live in, there’s a lot of collecting of info on people. Will it be used for good or evil? I don’t know. Everyone is free to not use FB.
The hour is late & horses long since bolted, now's the time to be shouting your name.
They don't like it up 'em Cpt. Mainwearing.
This only shows why Facebook or any other social media context fails. Mostly because of innate desire to show own superiority. It's fine mate, knock yourself out.
I'm surprised people still believe this, when there's a lot of evidence to suggest otherwise.
What constitutes a good reason ?
Agreed
Post-Snowden everyone should now be aware they're doing blanket surveillance
https://prism-break.org/en/
Facebook is among the companies involved in this
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XKeyscore
Blanket surveillance program as leaked by Snowden
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tempora
The UK equivalent
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/oct/04/yahoo-secret-email-program-nsa-fbi
The latest, Yahoo scanning customers emails for the NSA
Notice how several countries are now trying to make encryption illegal. That's because with a proper setup it becomes difficult for them to spy on us
That you're breathing.
GCHQ
U !!!
Isn’t AI brilliant.
Audiobus. Don’t have a FB, won’t have a FB.
The Ai bot is only 8 years late to the party.
This.
Yeah man, fuck those brainwashed mind slaves and their blue visual frequency bands.
I liked the fb group and used it for years. I prefer the mix of people on there; there were old people enjoying having iPads to cultivate a new hobby etc. I sometimes like going in gear space too as they have producers who worked with big sixties groups and a lot of top studios - guy there who produced for berry Gordy stuff I think or at least worked with them . No sleight to those here but I’m not interested in EDM or modern r n b, dance or whatever type production, loop based songs, and that is a very heavy bias here in the tenor of the forum. I often have to factor that in. I no longer use the fb group and this was a nice reminder of a group that I started off with. I’m glad it’s going strong. do prefer this place for info and keeping abreast of things and the clarity of the layout,
I do value this place. It’s my only resource really, there was another site and it’s popular but the guy running it was poisonous. No one will agree with me but I am correct. Quite pleased it was struggling. Delicious. Absolutely delicious thank you, no really I couldn’t, oh go on then one more
Facebook tends to be more about "look at me", and the AB Forum is more about "here's something interesting", although I've seen the gloves come off a few times here. I have to say the bench here is still pretty deep.