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Apps can't update!
I am finding more and more of my apps can't be updated because I am on an iPad 4! I was ok not being able to purchase newer apps because of my older technology but these are apps that I have already purchased and have been using. I'm wondering how long before they won't work at all! Has there been a gigantic leap in technology that would just leave me behind like this or are devs lazy and don't want to support pre-existing customers of which I have been here since pre Audiobus! I know this is more of a rant but it's getting frustrating not being able to keep current without purchasing a whole new setup!
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For what it's worth, I still have an iPod touch on iOS 6 and all my apps still work, though they haven't been updated in a long time. So, I don't think you have to worry about your apps not working.
Have you updated to iOS 10? If not, that might be preventing from updating your apps.
Yes. The the devs are all lazy. I'm pretty sure that all of them are independently wealthy, have no house or rent payments to make and that all their kids are fed and college paid for. You're right, I can't think of any reason they should focus their time on new customers when you've been loyally using their products all this time.
Maybe when they realize the sacrifices you've made all these years they'll get off their asses.
'Cause I'm sure the only reason you can't afford newer equipment is because you yourself are working full time doing charity work.
I was wondering if that might be the problem, but I am worried that if I update to a more sophisticated iOS then it might make things worse! I have an iPhone 5s so I'm thinking about purchasing what I can now, like the Odessi and take advantage of the discount now and install when I can afford a new iPad!
@wim C'mon, man. The sarcasm isn't necessary. We ALL get frustrated with technology from time to time.
That will work. Just purchase through iTunes on a PC/Mac.
@Daath7 I should also add that usually you can install an older version of an app if your iOS/device version isn't supported with the latest update.
Sorry, I think it was totally necessary. Implying developers are lazy is very short sighted. I'll be banned before I'll apologize for that one.
I hear you, although perhaps a little disingenuous going out on the ledge when our friendly developers own the mountain
You're usually much better with words. To be disingenuous would mean I was less than sincere, or that I was pretending to know less than I do. In fact I was very sincere, and pretending more knowledge than I really have.
I could accept meddlesome, sarcastic, arrogant, pretentious, turgid ... and several others. I'm open to suggestions.
Anyway, I said my piece. I have nothing to retract or add, so I'll just leave this thread and troll no more for tonight.
For me, the most frustrating part is that I can't make iTunes not download the new app versions which are not compatible with my iPad. So, I have to keep a separate backup folder for such .ipa install files in case I ever need them later. Currently, it contains only SampleTank v.1 and Auxy v.2 but I have a feeling it's gonna start growing incrementally and I'd better upgrade to a newer ipad model soon
Strange, I understood exactly what JG meant.
Your willingness to sacrifice your forum profile defending developers on a forum hosted by developers isn't exactly courageous. That is, unless your talking "Apple courage." Get it now?
I think Po for all of us on this one
Sleep easy fellas.
Nighty night.
Ok you got me, I apologize for calling devs lazy!
Sometimes I wish some of them were lazy. There's an app, which I use very often, that the developer made incompatible with iOS 9 just a week after iOS 10 got released. And I'm still on iOS 9...
@Daath7
As a Dev looking to cut iPad 4s, iPhone 5, 5C and every device that doesn't support iOS 10, I can tell you some of the thought process behind it (or at least ours).
1: most devs aren't large teams - for us, I'm one of two devs that works on Medly. So as new configurations of devices and OSs become available, supporting legacy systems becomes burdensome and clutters up the code.
2: iOS 10 finally cuts the aging A5 and A5X processors. The A5X is probably the worst processor Apple has ever shipped, as it was horribly underpowered for the iPad 3. The A5 too is a slow processor, that got 1 more year of shelf life than it deserved (iOS 9 was meant to cut it).
3: so what's wrong with the A6? It's the only chip that supports iOS 10 and is not 64 bit. 64 bit may not sound like a big deal, but apps can only use certain tech (like Metal) on 64 bit devices. And only 3 devices exist that have the A6: iPhone 5, iPhone 5C and the iPad 4 - most are not exceptionally popular devices compared to what followed.
So when you take these factors into consideration, it's a decision by the devs that says, rather than spend hours/days/weeks optimizing or removing this feature, I can focus on making new better ones that take full advantage of the processor. At least, that's how we think about it at Medly.
The answer it's easy, the iPad 4 it's 32 bit and all apps are going 64 bit only, I think developer can support also 32 bit iOS devices but I understand if it doesn't makes the most sense, the last 32 bit iPhone, the 4s didn't get iOS 10. And the iPad 4 it's the last 32 bit ipad on iOS 10.
Gotta admit apple support the iPad 2/3 for a long time (and probably the 4 as well) but the apparent short life of mobile devices its inevitable (due to leap frog advances in technology each year) especially comparing it to PCs (where nothing new happens anymore or it doesn't advances as quick as it used to, a mature platform)
For what's worth all apps are still yours and will update if you ever get a new iPad. And you can still use the last version your device supported.
I understand! But it is possible to do its just not cost effective for a smaller operation and not so future proof for hardware yet to be released! I came on board AB from day one and was actually on the mailing list to be updated when it would drop. I am an older guy who goes back to days of tape and modular synths, I remember when midi first came out and was blown away by the possibilities! Fast forward 30 years almost to the day and I saw that what was needed was a way to incorporate all these amazing apps in a central location, and along comes AB! I have purchased every relevant app possible and some not too relevant, because I know and believe in iOS apps and future they present, I pushed my iPad 2 till it smoked and then bought my IPad 4 128 and life was good! But now I'm starting to see the apps get more sophisticated and powerful and I'm beginning to not be able to purchase some of these fine tools and I understand why, but to not be able to update some of the recent apps got me to wondering why and that was the reason for my rant! I have the utmost respect for these developers both large and small for the excellence which they provide me with! At one point I was going to start a thread that suggested we maybe start some kind of funding for some developers to be able to continue their work for apps which are incredible but have not been able to keep up with the demands of faster hardware but that's for another day, once again sorry for the lazy comment!
I know how you feel having a ipad 3 ive lost the use of Sampletank, Auxy, Duel display in the last few weeks. No AU for me which seems the way ahead. Can download quite a few apps now because they are 64 bit or ios 10 only. Biting the bullet this week and getting a ipad Pro. I hope i get the 4 year cycle that i got out of the ipad 3. Will keep all my link apps on the old ipad and music and use my new pro for music apps.
I guess I have to save up my pennies!
Is the age of my iPad the reason a lot of my au effects don't show up in my hosts?
I think the ipad3 was probably the worst iPad ever.
Just a thought, but how hard would it be to make legacy versions available for users of older gear? Not sure how the app store works with stuff like that, but it would be a way for people to buy an old version that works without needing much development input. It seems like the biggest problem is that once an update appears, the old version's lost forever, even if that version was perfectly good. Knowing Apple, though, there's probably some obstacle in the path somewhere...
This was not always the case, but now, if you already own an app and have it in iTunes, you can download the compatible legacy version to older devices. It gives you the option, if available, when you go to download via the cloud. At least, it worked for me.
I gave my Mom my old iPad 3 and got her iPad 1 in return, and was able to get a surprising number of functioning apps onto it. No Link or anything fancy, but I attach it to my iConnect for a spare sound source on the mac. It's on lockdown now.
When SampleTank 2 came out, I decided to try and reinstall onto my iPhone 5. ST2 isn't compatible with iPhone5, though, and I didn't get the option to load the older one that time, so no guarantees. I had to hack the older version onto there instead.
I think you can always download the last version your device supported but that's for apps you already have. An option would be to make the new incompatible update a separate app but... that brings a whole of new issues and discussions between people and developers.
With Auxy MusicStudio you can't do it.
Latest addition - Elastic Drums
dammit
I feel you, but the devs moving to 64-bit aren't going back. If enough of your apps are making that move and they have enough new features you care about, I suggest picking up a refurbished/used 64-bit iDevice like an iPhone 5s or an iPad mini 2. There should be some good deals soon with the holidays upon us.
Buy the best you can afford if you plan on staying in the up-to-date game for a while.
Or save every penny and buy the simply the best, saving yourself from a new purchase for a long time: I don't see CPU architecture moving to, say, 128-bit anytime soon, and the current Pros have the same power of an old MacBook Pro - they could well run MacOS if Apple allowed for it!