TOP 10 MUSIC APPS 2016 │ haQ attaQ

Will

1. AUM
2. Phasemaker
3. Model 15
4. Soft Drummer
5. Infinite Looper
6. RedShrike
7. Viking
   
   

Not sure if these are 2016 or late last year but....
8. Gadget for iPhone
9. midiSteps
10. modstep

If they are from 2015 I'd swap them with...
8. Ruismaker
9. iWavestation
10. Strng

Will

I don't have a lot of the apps in the video. Gonna get Tines though. Didn't realize it sounded that good!

Nkersov

@ExAsperis99 said:
Also, Ruismaker is kind of pointless in AUM, unless I'm missing something.

Have you not tried running multiple instances of Ruismaker, run by other apps?

db909

Dopplerpad

[Deleted User]

@Nkersov said:

@ExAsperis99 said:
Also, Ruismaker is kind of pointless in AUM, unless I'm missing something.

Have you not tried running multiple instances of Ruismaker, run by other apps?

Yeah try using Patterning to run multiple Ruismakers. Then use AUM to have individual FX settings and mixer settings.

1P18

@JohnnyGoodyear said:
I love the concept of AUM of course, but struggle with not being able to get perfect loops of what I might play. I understand that I can record something, go out to AS, cut the piece to BE a perfect loop and then go back to AUM and start layering again, but I keep thinking I'm missing some facility here. It seems clunky/flow deadening otherwise.....perhaps I am going about it in the wrong way OR maybe it is more of a 'jam machine'?

I think you need to pretty much eliminate the idea of loops when using AUM, or at least the idea that you are pasting snippets of music down on a timeline, and instead embrace the excitement of capturing audio live. The idea behind a mixer is totally different from a DAW, as a mixer removes the visual timeline, forcing you to leave the comfort of the theoretical and dive right into the living breathing realm of the actual. That realm can be a brutal place, but at the same time it can bring out a raw and unfettered truth worth exploring.

@JohnnyGoodyear said:
Lightbulb finally turns on.

Hopefully I have added to the light.

As for keeping on topic, my top music apps for this year:

AUM - Best music tool on iOS to bring it all together.
DRC - Great synth with it's own organic feel.
ARP ODYSSEi - Quality synth from Korg.
Lofionic Duplicat - Nice AU effect.
iWAVESTATION - Still haven't explored this much, but seems much improved over previous versions for patch making.

AudioGus

The Holy Shit Award:
Blocs Wave

The Evolutionary Award:
Aum

The Ear Candy Award (tied):
Elastic Drums sample update
Shoom

gkillmaster

not one Dhalang?

hellquist

@1P18 said:

@JohnnyGoodyear said:
I love the concept of AUM of course, but struggle with not being able to get perfect loops of what I might play. I understand that I can record something, go out to AS, cut the piece to BE a perfect loop and then go back to AUM and start layering again, but I keep thinking I'm missing some facility here. It seems clunky/flow deadening otherwise.....perhaps I am going about it in the wrong way OR maybe it is more of a 'jam machine'?

I think you need to pretty much eliminate the idea of loops when using AUM, or at least the idea that you are pasting snippets of music down on a timeline, and instead embrace the excitement of capturing audio live. The idea behind a mixer is totally different from a DAW, as a mixer removes the visual timeline, forcing you to leave the comfort of the theoretical and dive right into the living breathing realm of the actual. That realm can be a brutal place, but at the same time it can bring out a raw and unfettered truth worth exploring.

Just trying to follow the AUM vs Loop discussion and feeling confused. You see, one of the main features in AUM in my book is that it can, and does, do perfect loops. I no longer have to do the copy/clip-to-size thing, because of AUM, which can record perfect loops out-of-the-box. As I'm not that much of a live performer, cutting up loops when sketching ideas is my main usage of AUM. What am I missing? Or is it really me missing something?

From the AUM manual:

"If you tap record while the transport is rolling, it will start or end recording at the next sync quantum. This can be used to record loops on the fly."
(EDIT: adding link - http://kymatica.com/aum/help.html#toc65)

Pretty simple if you ask me. I have the record button toggled by my keyboard. I don't even have to time it that well, as it will start/stop the actual recording on the next loop cycle.

1P18

@hellquist said:
Just trying to follow the AUM vs Loop discussion and feeling confused.

I didn't really explain myself well. AUM is simply more conducive to recording than it is to composing like you would in a DAW, so that a finished song is more of a captured performance. Though yes you can still compose (more or less) using AUM and still capture live performances in a DAW.

JohnnyGoodyear

@1P18 said:

@hellquist said:
Just trying to follow the AUM vs Loop discussion and feeling confused.

I didn't really explain myself well. AUM is simply more conducive to recording than it is to composing like you would in a DAW, so that a finished song is more of a captured performance. Though yes you can still compose (more or less) using AUM and still capture live performances in a DAW.

Hear you both. I did (of course) spnd a hour or two this afternoon going through what I had already recorded in AUM and realized that there was much to be done with what was there, many nuggets, things for cutting, melody ideas etc. I almost feel the need to set aside time JUST to noodle and play here. Probably good to keep from being to tied into the perfect lines etc. Anyway, thanks both for your insight...

@hellquist when you say I have the record button toggled by my keyboard did you somehow assign one? That sounds promising for a man with enormous fingers etc.

audiblevideo

@gkillmaster I think that people are reluctant to face and app like that with most wanting a "regular" or at least familiar workflow. From what I've seen it looks innovative and very full of exploration. I'd love to play with it myself but all I have is my iPhone (most of the time)

Telstar5

@jakoB_haQ
Thanks again for what you do. I'd love to see your "top 10" not only for this year but from 2012-2106

gonekrazy3000

@ExAsperis99 said:

@richardyot said:
Right - I don't use AUM to develop tracks, I use Auria for that. I use AUM to # develop initial ideas, musical phrases, melodies, beats, etc...

Exactly. This is where the unfettered, long and rambling ideas unfurl. THEN you can send to AudioShare and chop and drop into your DAW of choice.

Although you wish there was SOME kind of step to avoid having to chop a loop in AudioShare.... Is there not some way to send a track to another bus, enable THAT track, record the loop, and have it play back in its File Player? And then jam on that?

Also, Ruismaker is kind of pointless in AUM, unless I'm missing something.

You send midi from modstep to ruismaker. so its not pointless

Johnba

Blocks Wave
for the phenomenal commitment of its Devs

Telstar5

@jakoB_haQ
Thanks again for what you do. I'd love to see your "top 10" not only for this year but from 2012-2106

brambos

@Nkersov said:

@ExAsperis99 said:
Also, Ruismaker is kind of pointless in AUM, unless I'm missing something.

Have you not tried running multiple instances of Ruismaker, run by other apps?

Indeed: https://forum.audiob.us/discussion/14253/patterning-dueling-ruismakers-a-drum-playground-how-to/p1

But my remark was mostly from a developer's point of view. When building a plugin you want to know whether it behaves as a good boy/girl according to all the rules and requirements (when you send loads of weird midi-shizzle into it, state saving, preset saving and recalling, loading/unloading multiple instances, tempo changes, etc.). For me AUM is indispensable because it conforms to almost all the guidelines and is one of the few hosts that gives access to a plugin's AU parameters. It's also really fast to load and restore sessions. So for testing it's a champ.

Thank Vishnu that we don't have to rely on Apple for providing us reference test software

mireko_2

Blocs wave
Link
Poison 202
iSpark
iWavestation

That's pretty much all I've bought this year apart from ModStep which I haven't used much

Patric_Bateman

Moog Model 15!
iWaveStation
Cubasis 2.0
Addictive Pro
Korvpressor
Phasemaker
iVCS3 AU update (the filter )

jakoB_haQ

@Philippe said:
Was that a bass picture in the poison 202 portion? I mean the fish.

Um.. it's a graphical glitch?...

I use the bass fish in my videos when I mix up the words bass (as bass guitar) and bass (the fish).

So if you watch the original video where that clip is taken from (my Poison-202 review) then you'll hear me say bass instead of ...bass...ugh.

jakoB_haQ

@Telstar5 said:
@jakoB_haQ
Thanks again for what you do. I'd love to see your "top 10" not only for this year but from 2012-2106

I have a top ten from 2015 on my channel. I even posted it here on the forum:

TOP 10 MUSIC APPS 2015 - haQ attaQ 110
https://forum.audiob.us/discussion/11603/top-10-music-apps-2015-haq-attaq-110

There's no list from 2012-2013. And the list from 2014 was a blog post I made on my old haQ attaQ blog. I'll check if I i can find the list I made back then.

jakoB_haQ

@syrupcore said:
I don't have a lot of the apps in the video. Gonna get Tines though. Didn't realize it sounded that good!

Tines is one of those apps that surprises you right away with it's sound. It's synth modeling sounds, easy tweak-able GUI, cheap, doesn't eat too much processes and small in file-size.

jakoB_haQ

Judging from all the comments so far it looks like we have two apps that is being really appreciated. AUM and Blocs Wave. =D

hellquist

@JohnnyGoodyear said:
@hellquist when you say I have the record button toggled by my keyboard did you somehow assign one? That sounds promising for a man with enormous fingers etc.

Indeed exactly so. I doubt you have much larger hands than I have (I'm a 195cm 105 kg death metal viking), but I have an Alesis vi49 keyboard which has transport controls that I have bound, but any of the other keys would have worked just as well. I picked the transport control buttons mainly as that is what I'm after when it comes to controlling the transport of AUM/ModStep. Play, Stop and Rewind buttons I have bound to control both AUM and ModStep, whereas the Record button toggles record button in AUM (only).

As mentioned, the recording will start/stop on the next cycle of bars in the loop, which means I don't have to be very precise at all with timings when hitting the record button, which I most often can do with my "other" hand (not playing). If I need both hands on piano keys I have previously successfully bound the record toggle to my foot pedals.

JohnnyGoodyear

@hellquist said:

@JohnnyGoodyear said:
@hellquist when you say I have the record button toggled by my keyboard did you somehow assign one? That sounds promising for a man with enormous fingers etc.

Indeed exactly so. I doubt you have much larger hands than I have (I'm a 195cm 105 kg death metal viking), but I have an Alesis vi49 keyboard which has transport controls that I have bound, but any of the other keys would have worked just as well. I picked the transport control buttons mainly as that is what I'm after when it comes to controlling the transport of AUM/ModStep. Play, Stop and Rewind buttons I have bound to control both AUM and ModStep, whereas the Record button toggles record button in AUM (only).

As mentioned, the recording will start/stop on the next cycle of bars in the loop, which means I don't have to be very precise at all with timings when hitting the record button, which I most often can do with my "other" hand (not playing). If I need both hands on piano keys I have previously successfully bound the record toggle to my foot pedals.

Thank you. I have a little Beatstep due to be coming down the chimney and will experiment with this while I should instead me toasting the health and happiness of my family etc etc. As regards fingers, perhaps we were separated at birth? I'm a 195cm 105 kg death-obsessed poet...

ExAsperis99

@gonekrazy3000 said:

@ExAsperis99 said:

@richardyot said:
Right - I don't use AUM to develop tracks, I use Auria for that. I use AUM to # develop initial ideas, musical phrases, melodies, beats, etc...

Exactly. This is where the unfettered, long and rambling ideas unfurl. THEN you can send to AudioShare and chop and drop into your DAW of choice.

Although you wish there was SOME kind of step to avoid having to chop a loop in AudioShare.... Is there not some way to send a track to another bus, enable THAT track, record the loop, and have it play back in its File Player? And then jam on that?

Also, Ruismaker is kind of pointless in AUM, unless I'm missing something.

You send midi from modstep to ruismaker. so its not pointless

Very true. Mea culpa. I'm just saying that in the AUM free jam section, unless Patterning is driving Ruismaker (for example), it's kind of inert. This is user ignorance, I fully admit. It's just easier to have a SeekBeats loop going?

gkillmaster

@audiblevideo said:
@gkillmaster I think that people are reluctant to face and app like that with most wanting a "regular" or at least familiar workflow. From what I've seen it looks innovative and very full of exploration. I'd love to play with it myself but all I have is my iPhone (most of the time)

Yeh, makes sense. I love the unexpected results a lot but find myself not using it as much as I want to because I feel like I have to re-learn how to use it every time I open it up...

Aud_iOS

@brambos said:
Not to mention that -to me- AUM is at the moment the reference AU host. It's the only host out there that really gets (almost) everything right.

(My only AU-niggle with it is that it allows AU windows to be scalable, which is against Apple's recommendations and can be a right pain from a developer's point of view. Please, host makers, do not introduce 'AU GUI size fragmentation' lest you want to make polished AU design completely impossible.)

Wonder how you think of ZMors in this capacity... it would get my vote, but not a dev, so just curious.

srcer

@Ocsprey said:

@brambos said:
Not to mention that -to me- AUM is at the moment the reference AU host. It's the only host out there that really gets (almost) everything right.

(My only AU-niggle with it is that it allows AU windows to be scalable, which is against Apple's recommendations and can be a right pain from a developer's point of view. Please, host makers, do not introduce 'AU GUI size fragmentation' lest you want to make polished AU design completely impossible.)

Wonder how you think of ZMors in this capacity... it would get my vote, but not a dev, so just curious.

Just to be clear, I think you are asking @brambos about zMors Modular, which can be an AU host. As apposed to zMors EQ, which is an AU plug-in.

srcer

@jakoB_haQ said:
@Fruitbat1919 @DeVlaeminck So it Seems We have some comming favourites! =D

I wanted to put Korg Oddy on the list, but went against it since I'm still not completely comfortable using it. Need more time with it. WAVESTATION to.

ZMors EQ was also on my initial list. I might have to do an individual top 10 fx apps list.

Yes please, to an FX episode There's a growing list of AU FX, would love a deep dive into the relative merits!

AU FX list:
apeFIlter
AudioEffX
AudioReverb
Blamsoft (DC-9 Overdrive, F-16 Filter, Resampler, Zero Chorus, Zero Reverb)
DDMF 6144
DDMF Envelope
frekvens
iVCS3
Remaster
RF-1
RP-1
zMors EQ

Are there any other AU FX?