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ARP is just the brand, just like your example with the microphone. In your example, the US company builds it, and uses the name Telefunken. But here ARP builds the app, uses KORGs CMT modeling, and let KORG sell it on the App store? Sorry, that doesn´t make any sense.
KORG purchased the brand, of course they are going to use it to promote this classic synthesizer, it would be a stupid investment otherwise.
http://www.synthtopia.com/content/2014/02/17/korg-is-bringing-back-the-arp-odyssey/
KORG hired the former founder and President of ARP. Mystery solved.
Just remembered I had this as a VST years ago. 'The oddity' didn't really blow me away then, but this one seems sweeter.
Well i can't help you with your looming Gift Card...It really sounds sweet. If you don´t have the iVCS3 yet, you should check that one out!
I've always liked the idea of having the ivcs3, but I don't need anymore fart sounds or bubbly fx. Like many of the new mini hardware modular synths out there, that's all I hear out of them.
Oh it's very versatile, and not limited to modular weirdness at all. Great on leads sounds, pads and atmospheres.
I'll have another gander
Oh ok. That ones been out for a while, thought it would've been 32 bit compatible.
And you´re right. I´ve had the wrong page open in iTunes, from Arp :-/ Sorry again. It runs on the iPad 4. Better safe than sorry...
They're probably the same dumbasses who go to restaurants that give them food poisoning. Why did they even go to that restaurant in the first place?! Dumbasses!
Right? They should have checked YELP first xD
Korg re-vitalized the ARP company, they didn't just buy the brand.
They did this for the hardware, which received quite positive feedback, so a module version without keyboard was added to the line.
The step into the app market may be an attempt to gain additional revenues, but (imho) it mainly serves as a promo for the hardware.
Seriously - app sales as a business works with gimmicks, but not with maintained software. Even Korg can afford it only because they already HAD the modelling ready and they can re-use touch interface experience in other hardware devices.
I agree, it's awkward that it's not universal (set aside that it sets up buying two versions of the app.)
There really isn't a reason to buy presets twice, though.
However, there are tons of free presets and timbres that require you to use iFunbox or iTunes. and if you bother to do that, you can copy the presets from one version to the other. so you don't have to buy the presets twice... i didn't. I just copied them over.
I also bought the alba ecstasy presets, and some other ones, as well as tons of other free banks and timbres.
My point is, if you like Animoog enough to want to add third-party presets and timbres, or even your own timbres, there's no reason your purchased presets should remain locked/siloed on one device.
On my mac, I maintain a "master" folder of presets, and a master folder of timbres that I copy to both ipad and iphone versions of animoog. That way, I know they are identical. And, I have a backup of everything as well. (in fact, I back up any preset folders from any app that I can)
And remember, the one advantage of paying for different ipad and iphone versions is that now you can run two instances of animoog on your ipad at once, by loading the iphone version on.
Sorry you´re contradicting yourself, you suggested, that ARP (or an investment company that purchased ARP) developed the App, with the help of Korgs CMT modeling, and then let Korg sell it on the App store. You also thought, it was a different company compared to KORGs other apps, when the similarities like the KAOSS pads, fixed Keyboard and the floating Keyboard are the same as in the six year old iMS-20.
But you do have a point in using Apps as an advertising platform to promote hardware, and that´s exactly why it is so vitally important, to reach the highest standard of quality, like moog is doing. And that is why i believe i´m absolutely right, that the KORG company does appreciate the feedback, and should make the appropriate changes, to get the App Store Rating where it belongs for a synth with that kind of history and sonic capability.
I very much agree with this sentiment, and hope it's true. In lots of ways, KORG has demonstrated a commitment to excellence, and a commitment to understanding the iOS platform. I'm hopeful they will get the message that cleaning up some of the MIDI issues is essential to maximize the owner experience of these deep and powerful apps.
OFF TOPIC tangent: Have Fugue Machine drive iWavestation, and just keep randomizing the preset. Keep them at the same tempo. Or, since iWavestation does not have Link, use Link to MIDI.
my bad if I didn't express it more clearly...
never considered an 'investment corp' in that context, imo the company in question was always Korg.
But they may have ARP as a separate business unit (a common practice) with access to Korg 'assets', but not necessarily the same developer team (sharing results etc)
Good tips. It's not for lack of a computer, or know how, that I harp on this, though that could be an issue for some. It's the principle of the matter. The extra price of the second app isn't a big deal. I'm just surprised Moog hasn't addressed the IAP problem for those that don't have the iTunes/iFunbox option. They've done a really great job with Model 15, so I'll try not to nit pick it too often. Perhaps they're already working on tying up this loose end. If they make the iPad version universal, they could leave the iPhone only version for those that want the two instance setup
I consider that there were two strange things about the Karp Odyssey Desktop module. 1: the price of the unit without the keyboard makes it look very much like the unit with the keyboard has £200 worth of keyboard, which is simply ridiculous - that keyboard alone it isn't competitive, adding almost any other keyboard to the desktop module leaves you with more change in your pocket and a superior set of keyboard features to use elsewhere.
The other thing is, why on earth didn't they release the keyboardless desktop module with patch jacks, making it most of the way toward a little Arp 2600? (Speaking as someone who has spent the past two weeks recreating my broken Arp 2600's 4016 VCA module entirely out of new modern components on a breadboard).
I want one. If I can't have a hardware one then I want a 2600 app. Come on.
Someone's selling a real one here... want....
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/122198326370
I’m not supposed to be posting in this guy’s poll thread, LOL, but my point is that if you’re terribly picky about what an app does, then wait to read reviews, ask questions, read the manual, watch a video, etc. before buying. I thought the App Store reviews weren’t so good for this one, and Korg should be ashamed of themselves. Then if it doesn’t work as expected, there’s something to be pissed about. Or one can just buy the app and throw a tantrum here. Whatever works for ya.
You can get one without a keyboard for about £500....i wouldnt mind on actually....now ive played with the app
http://www.pmtonline.co.uk/korg-arp-odyssey-module-rev-3-analogue-synthesizer
Well I gave it another go the other day, and it's pretty great despite the ugly interface on iphone. you can pretty much tweak things without thinking to much
Something's just occurred to me. How on earth do I get a user patch off this synth, for example, to make available to someone else?
Oh, the old fashioned way, then.
Reminds me - when I was a teenager in Australia, I bought the Arp Odyssey Patchbook - a whole book of blank patch sheets printed in green ink, that you fill in with your patches. In no way could I afford the actual synth, but I could afford the patch book, so I bought that. I'd go into music shops in Melbourne and try out what my imaginary patches would sound like on a shop demo Odyssey (or more often later in 79, Avatar).
I always wondered why 90% of VCS3/Synthi videos on YouTube or Soundcloud were harsh noise or something. Not that i dont like me some bubbles
But yeah, i was happy to hear that it could do beautiful stuff too:
It's multitracked etc. Guess you could do similar with iVCS3 in pair with some ios daw.
forgive me I know I asked this somewhere but forgot where, does the app have both midi in and out?