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New video app.lumafusion.

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  • edited January 2017

    Back to LumaFusion... if you're having stability issues, they've already pushed out at least 3 betas since launch, so it should be rock solid very soon.

    I've got high hopes for this one. They're even planning on making it compatible with editing 360VR footage so that the 360 meta-data doesn't get stripped out on compression.

    They're also very responsive to users, so if you want to go directly to the devs on this one, their forum is good, and they are also very responsive on twitter.

    http://forums.luma-touch.com

    https://twitter.com/lumatouch

  • Indeed. I did some criticism, but only because my hopes for this app are high. It already far more featured than any iPad video editor. But performance must improve, and the track counting could be more generous for iPad Pro users - as soon as they improve performance - because my iPad Pro has the same benchmark performance as my 2010 MBP, yet the laptop can handle FCPX with several tracks just fine.

  • LumaFusion is great. For people with no patience that expect to find a so called 'professional package' please check what windows/OS X has to offer.

    I don't agree with the statement I read earlier that said: 'for selfie crowd' or something along those lines. I beg to differ. I think LF provides more than enough if your creativity allows for it.

    Thanks LumaTouch for the intro price. Well worth it. (I don't take selfies).

  • @theconnactic said:
    Indeed. I did some criticism, but only because my hopes for this app are high. It already far more featured than any iPad video editor. But performance must improve, and the track counting could be more generous for iPad Pro users - as soon as they improve performance - because my iPad Pro has the same benchmark performance as my 2010 MBP, yet the laptop can handle FCPX with several tracks just fine.

    They had a very ambitious timeline to launch and they did it. But, I know they want to be THE premiere video app on iOS. Before LumaFusion, I was a big fan of Pinnacle Studio Pro. It was THE best on iOS in my opinion. The Luma-Touch folks were outsource developing Pinnacle Studio Pro for Corel, but parted ways. They've got lots of experience in this realm for sure.

    As for being able to bread-n-butter editing with titles, some cool fx, all the basic transitions, keyframe animation, some audio editing features on multiple tracks, etc. I think there is no other video app on iOS right now that's even close. And, it does all of this non-destructively until you export. And, it even handles up to 3 layers of 4K video. For iOS that's impressive.

    I wouldn't be surprised it they haven't rolled out the next phase within a couple months from now. One to watch for sure, I think you'll be glad you got it the 50% off at launch price. :)

  • They should allow for more than three layers! An iPad Pro is every bit as powerful as laptop, and it's not actually much less potent than a current MBP (http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/ipad/ipad-pro-faq/ipad-pro-ipad-air-performance-benchmarks-comparison.html). Thank you for the links, I just tweeted them about it!

  • @nick said:

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    @Nkersov said:
    Any chance of adding features similar to Vidibox? This was such a great concept, but ended up being abandonware. I would happily buy such features as an IAP for Lumafusion.

    https://appsto.re/gb/qR-vM.i

    vidibox is a very cool app, but I'd much prefer the vidibox guys updating their app than those features in lumafusion. it's just two very different things, clip launching vs timeline ... but what lumafusion needs is masking features and a few obvious things like voice overs

    Yes. +1. I you look at their stated roadmap.. there are some very impressive features coming. I think masking features and voice overs are closer to the top of their list.

    It is nice that they published their road map and their plans. I only hope they succeed with this app and have enough resources and energy to complete everything on their list.

    Yeah, me too. I know they sounded like they wanted to go with more of a subscription model for sustainability, but most balked (including myself). Instead, they went with a slightly higher-priced app that I hope keeps them in the black long enough to get some of these new features added.

    I think they'll succeed because of the experience they've had with Pinnacle Studio Pro, and LumaFX. And as far was bread and butter video editing on iOS with layered FX included, etc. I don't think they have a rival.

    That could change obviously, so I hope the things on their roadmap go live sooner rather than later.

    I think it was smart of them to not do the subscription thing (and smart of you to convince them about it). I think once masking is there, it is rightly priced at around 40 € and if they add some feature for free and some pro features as IAP, that oculd really work for them and customers.

    For the record, I bought the app and am pleased I did. A large part of my purchase was/is based on the jib of the developers and if, along with other updates, they decide some more niche features warrant the IAP approach I support that. However (and this is the record part) I wouldn't, at this time, have subscribed to it. Not because of the app itself, but because of the model.

    In related news, I did find myself on a tennis court this afternoon with two strangers (a Canadian and an Englishman with a terrific slice serve) who had to listen to me talking about the app for fifteen minutes, so, even out here in the Caribbean wilds, word of mouth happens :)

  • Another much needed feature: access to the project bundles, with all corresponding media, for backing up.

  • edited January 2017

    @JohnnyGoodyear said:

    @nick said:

    @skiphunt said:

    @nick said:

    @skiphunt said:

    @nick said:

    @Nkersov said:
    Any chance of adding features similar to Vidibox? This was such a great concept, but ended up being abandonware. I would happily buy such features as an IAP for Lumafusion.

    https://appsto.re/gb/qR-vM.i

    vidibox is a very cool app, but I'd much prefer the vidibox guys updating their app than those features in lumafusion. it's just two very different things, clip launching vs timeline ... but what lumafusion needs is masking features and a few obvious things like voice overs

    Yes. +1. I you look at their stated roadmap.. there are some very impressive features coming. I think masking features and voice overs are closer to the top of their list.

    It is nice that they published their road map and their plans. I only hope they succeed with this app and have enough resources and energy to complete everything on their list.

    Yeah, me too. I know they sounded like they wanted to go with more of a subscription model for sustainability, but most balked (including myself). Instead, they went with a slightly higher-priced app that I hope keeps them in the black long enough to get some of these new features added.

    I think they'll succeed because of the experience they've had with Pinnacle Studio Pro, and LumaFX. And as far was bread and butter video editing on iOS with layered FX included, etc. I don't think they have a rival.

    That could change obviously, so I hope the things on their roadmap go live sooner rather than later.

    I think it was smart of them to not do the subscription thing (and smart of you to convince them about it). I think once masking is there, it is rightly priced at around 40 € and if they add some feature for free and some pro features as IAP, that oculd really work for them and customers.

    For the record, I bought the app and am pleased I did. A large part of my purchase was/is based on the jib of the developers and if, along with other updates, they decide some more niche features warrant the IAP approach I support that. However (and this is the record part) I wouldn't, at this time, have subscribed to it. Not because of the app itself, but because of the model.

    In related news, I did find myself on a tennis court this afternoon with two strangers (a Canadian and an Englishman with a terrific slice serve) who had to listen to me talking about the app for fifteen minutes, so, even out here in the Caribbean wilds, word of mouth happens :)

    Regarding LumaFusion... while the devs were working on Pinnacle Studio Pro, they had some cookie-cutter pre-built animations that were decent/passable. Where if you just needed a bumper or a short spot for TV, all you had to do was drop in your stills or video clips on the content areas within the animations.

    I used this on one paying gig from the road. It was for a bar that wanted to advertise one of their private party rooms and services on large LCD screens throughout the bar. They didn't want to pay much, and they already had all of the images. I didn't want to try to create something from scratch for what they wanted to pay, so I used a pre-built animation, tweaked it to look a bit more custom, then export in HD. They were perfectly happy with the results and I don't think I spent more than an hour working on it from the road. I believe I did it from a budget hotel room during a motorcycle trip.

    It'd be great if LumaFusion had something like this too. I've mentioned it too them and that maybe they could have a user store or sorts, similar to the store in Auria Pro. Might be too complicated with commission dispersion, but I'd definitely be interested in pre-built projects that were generic enough to be used for bread and butter stuff, with just enough control to customize them a bit. I'd buy those as IAPs for sure. Most of the time, there's no need to be reinventing the wheel anyway, especially if the budget is low. ;)

  • Haven't purchased the app yet but I am going to definitely get it before the intro price is up, and probably even if I miss the deadline as I corresponded with the devs and they not only were very responsive but it was clear that they were earnestly being as helpful as possible with my impending issues. I was very impressed by that, they remind me of the looptunes dev Sonicreef....This is going to be one of my new resolutions to make sure I'm spending my iOS dollars much more wisely this year. No matter what kind of apps you like I hope everyone really supports the devs like these who actually care about their user base.

  • @JohnnyGoodyear said:
    For the record, I bought the app and am pleased I did. A large part of my purchase was/is based on the jib of the developers and if, along with other updates, they decide some more niche features warrant the IAP approach I support that. However (and this is the record part) I wouldn't, at this time, have subscribed to it.

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    I agree, @JohnnyGoodyear. Happy to have the app. Enthused by its potential. Supportive of IAP's that add stuff I'd use. But would not be a subscriber, to this or any app/ software. Even my Photoshop is an old one 'cause I don't like Adobe's decision to go to the cloud and basically lease stuff.

  • @Nkersov @skiphunt @decibelle
    Seriously, this is a public forum with a great post discussing the awesome app LumaFusion. A very interesting topic in my opinion. Please keep your personal beef to yourself, who cares about who called who and said what. There are other places on the internet to do this, do not pollute our forum with this kind of meaningless crap.

    Sorry for the rant. Cheers.

  • @kobamoto said:
    No matter what kind of apps you like I hope everyone really supports the devs like these who actually care about their user base.

    Absolutely. It's such a shame when much is promised and nothing much happens, so when a developer comes along who is committed, that's well worth encouraging. There have been a few near misses with video apps, great opportunities that floundered for one reason or another. This time, I think we all hope it goes well.

  • edited January 2017

    So in simple terms, what's the key feature(s) this has that pinnacle doesn't?

  • Which words have half a syllable?

  • edited January 2017

    @u0421793 said:
    Which words have half a syllable?

    http://conf.ling.cornell.edu/pdfs/Lavoie_Cohn_1999.pdf

  • @BiancaNeve said:
    So in simple terms, what's the key feature(s) this has that pinnacle doesn't?

    for me, the two key features are real time editing (without rendering) and multi tracks. this, along with the promise of masking features.

    added bonus: I gained 750MB of space by deleting iMovie and Pinnacle.

  • @nick said:

    @BiancaNeve said:
    So in simple terms, what's the key feature(s) this has that pinnacle doesn't?

    for me, the two key features are real time editing (without rendering) and multi tracks. this, along with the promise of masking features.

    added bonus: I gained 750MB of space by deleting iMovie and Pinnacle.

    +1, exactly! I hadn't thought of removing iMovie. I never use it so that should be a no-brainer. I thought about deleting Pinnacle, but I like a few of the canned animations they have. Well, like might be a strong word. I think ther are some generic pre-built animations in Pinnacle Studio Pro that could be useful in a pinch. I've used them before as I mentioned. But, I may need to revisit that and see if I really like them enough for it to be occupying much needed space.

    I was hoping similar pre-built project animations would've made it into LumaFusion too. I'll have to ask them about that. I mentioned it a couple months ago, but I don't recall what they said.

  • Hmmmm, never buy things on the promise of features to come no matter how keen the developers seem, anyone remember Diode?

  • @BiancaNeve said:
    Hmmmm, never buy things on the promise of features to come no matter how keen the developers seem, anyone remember Diode?

    For me, at the current launch price (not sure when the sale ends but I think it's soon if it hasn't already passed) it's worth the cost just for what it does now. I guess it comes down to what you want/need in a video editor. For my needs/desires there really isn't an alternative that does everything that LumaFusion does out of the gate.

    I made a post a few pages back citing my opinion of all of the video editing apps on iOS that I have experience with. If you don't have a need for keyframing animation, layers, etc. then there are likely apps that would be a better fit. For an all-in-one... as-is... I think LumaFusion is hard, if not currently impossible to beat.

  • @BiancaNeve said:
    Hmmmm, never buy things on the promise of features to come no matter how keen the developers seem, anyone remember Diode?

    I agree with this sometimes, was just thinking about the diode dev the other day, but at the same time I remember Igor vasilev, Jonatan liljedahl, Alexander Zolotov, Sonosaurus, Oliver Greschke, Ben Kamen, Rodrigo Yanez, as well as many others and I like to give people the benefit of the doubt. we are so lucky to have some extremely talented people making instruments for us , just have to learn to recognize the junk food and cut it out

  • is lumafusions video and audio editing destructive or non-destructive?

  • edited January 2017

    @kobamoto said:

    @BiancaNeve said:
    Hmmmm, never buy things on the promise of features to come no matter how keen the developers seem, anyone remember Diode?

    I agree with this sometimes, was just thinking about the diode dev the other day, but at the same time I remember Igor vasilev, Jonatan liljedahl, Alexander Zolotov, Sonosaurus, Oliver Greschke, Ben Kamen, Rodrigo Yanez, as well as many others and I like to give people the benefit of the doubt. we are so lucky to have some extremely talented people making instruments for us , just have to learn to recognize the junk food and cut it out

    Video is also a different kettle of kumquats as regards user base perhaps. As mentioned, I like it as is, but also really like the notion of being able to export projects to Premiere one day...didn't buy it on that basis, but it's a pretty idea.

  • @kobamoto its non-destructive... but with all the fx layers you really can make it super-destructive :)
    btw , there was a 1.1.2 update a day ago.. mainly stability and ui stuff.. plus chris has just added the live voice over recording to todays beta.. works aok via ipad mic, i'm just about to test it with some external audio gizmos and decent mics..

  • @JohnnyGoodyear said:

    @kobamoto said:

    @BiancaNeve said:
    Hmmmm, never buy things on the promise of features to come no matter how keen the developers seem, anyone remember Diode?

    I agree with this sometimes, was just thinking about the diode dev the other day, but at the same time I remember Igor vasilev, Jonatan liljedahl, Alexander Zolotov, Sonosaurus, Oliver Greschke, Ben Kamen, Rodrigo Yanez, as well as many others and I like to give people the benefit of the doubt. we are so lucky to have some extremely talented people making instruments for us , just have to learn to recognize the junk food and cut it out

    Video is also a different kettle of kumquats as regards user base perhaps. As mentioned, I like it as is, but also really like the notion of being able to export projects to Premiere one day...didn't buy it on that basis, but it's a pretty idea.

    I have a hunch these folks will deliver. There's already voice-over that was promised... in the most recent beta, so that one is coming soon.

  • edited January 2017

    Has anyone found any way at all anywhere to just do a basic ordinary simple crop?

  • @u0421793
    i'm getting this intuition that if it doesn't have some big WTF knobs on it, yr a little bit lost! :)
    please don't take offence but... crop the picture? crop the clip? crop the sheaves and bring them in?

  • @RockySmalls said:
    @u0421793
    i'm getting this intuition that if it doesn't have some big WTF knobs on it, yr a little bit lost! :)
    please don't take offence but... crop the picture? crop the clip? crop the sheaves and bring them in?

    Crop the video tracks - I have to get rid of the left side, and bottom, by an amount, so that the underlying layer can be seen. It is a fairly basic feature in compositing.

  • edited January 2017

    @u0421793 said:

    @RockySmalls said:
    @u0421793
    i'm getting this intuition that if it doesn't have some big WTF knobs on it, yr a little bit lost! :)
    please don't take offence but... crop the picture? crop the clip? crop the sheaves and bring them in?

    Crop the video tracks - I have to get rid of the left side, and bottom, by an amount, so that the underlying layer can be seen. It is a fairly basic feature in compositing.

    Yes, I asked about this also. It's coming for sure, but at the moment, you can only crop in their other app LumaFX. And yes, I agree it's fairly basic and was surprised it wasn't there for launch since it's already there in their other FX app.

    When I asked, it was because I wanted to know if there was anything that the LumaFX app does that isn't isn't included in the LumaFusion fx, and they said the cropping, but that it's coming to LumaFusion too. I was going to delete LumaFX, but have kept it installed for just the cropping. Looking forward to it being implemented, hopefully soon.

  • edited January 2017

    well, if i can grasp what yr trying to achieve reading between the slight negativity..
    you can double tap on the upper layer clip and in the Frame and Fit window with two fingers shrink the clip and align it with the left top corner, achieving a picture in picture effect ( which is what i'm imagining you are after ) .. unfortunately if its actually masking ( which is what you may be refering to by "Cropping" the lower and lefthand edges of the upper clip.. thats not yet implemented.. so sadly a bit of a wait.. or a workaround would be to (in a seperate project) take just yr upper clip and i. the frame and fit window with two fingers 'grow' it so the bottom and left side areas are cropped then render it out, then proceed with the previous method.. of course its not very adjustable by that method so .. bring on the negativity!! or maybe settle into some zen like patience and allow the world to catch up with your, no doubt, worthy ambitions :)

  • i meant top right corner... of course!!

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