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Kirnu - Cream Mobile

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  • @Flexinoodle said:
    Great app, simple to use

    Troll alert..................

  • I actually thought that was pretty damned funny.

  • I have a head start because I remember beta testing Cream Mobile but I never got round to buying it until now. I think it is awesome and really powerful. I seem to follow the logic really easily and it didn't take long at all to get something going. I've just had great fun using Cream, AUM, Posion 202 and iOdyssei. No issues hooking up with virtual MIDI, triggering cc's in iOdssyei for cutoff and res - all good. Using iPad Air 2 iOS 9.2 sorry it's not the same story for many users. I love it :)

  • Actually iOS 10.1.1 all good here.

  • edited December 2016

    @RustiK said:

    @Flexinoodle said:
    Great app, simple to use

    Troll alert..................

    Wow, just wow
    It works very similar to the desktop plugin, which is brilliant, it is very simple to use, of you have an issue with that, troll away

  • "Big learning curves" and "Simple to use" ?? Which one is it?

  • @aaronpc said:
    I actually thought that was pretty damned funny.

    About as funny as you and your previous comments, which were about as funny as they were intelligent.
    Not very!

  • I think the gui could do with some more development but I really like what can be done with Cream. It will be great when it gets link because I don't enjoy messing around with midi sync.

  • edited December 2016

    @Flexinoodle If Kirnu is simple, I'm not sure what qualifies as complex. I think it's brilliant, akin to Different Drummer or Dhalang MG, almost innumerable points of departure for workflow and sound, while elegantly coded with both musical theory and mathematical understanding of sound. These characteristics are requisite to effective tools, like Audiobus, which enabled creativity, markets, access - a forum member here facing personal challenges is supported because of Audiobus. And as well there are profound ontological effects from technology. The English Renaissance is attributable largely to the invention of the printing press, an OS enabling literacy, protestantism - these effects were largely unknown until The Guttenburg Galaxy came out. Similarly, punch cards invented for sewing machines were the basis for Turing, and the computer, sewing machines to satisfy the burgeoning middle class and its desire for rare silks from the far east, via the silk road stretching back in time, even earlier to the mythopoetic Klotho ~ spinner of destiny. This line, in fact, inspired the Ableton plugin Patter by Adam Florin, Who I met because of the above themes, and am writing an article with. Forester, in a Passage to India famously wrote 'only connect.' Now we transition from print to electronic and the "personal" computer, your vestigial mind, as A.I. moves to equanimity - meanwhile already shaping i.e. media/conflict/binaries-as-profit.

    Your comments here and elsewhere, are dismissive, irrespective of their accuracy - which I believe can reasonably be called into question, tho a dull and pointless exercise. That being said, I've posted probably 20 questions in this thread related to Cream, and am working my way through the manual and workflow, so I can ask some follow-ups and help the community here be creative, get ROI on their app investment, and enjoy the communal aspects afforded here in this gem of a forum. So I hope you'll chime in on my thread and fill in the blanks - that would be, simply, awesome.

  • I had a look at this app when it was released, but ran away scared. Too clever for my big wooden head.

  • @Ocsprey said:
    @Flexinoodle If Kirnu is simple, I'm not sure what qualifies as complex. I think it's brilliant, akin to Different Drummer or Dhalang MG, almost innumerable points of departure for workflow and sound, while elegantly coded with both musical theory and mathematical understanding of sound. These characteristics are requisite to effective tools, like Audiobus, which enabled creativity, markets, access - a forum member here facing personal challenges is supported because of Audiobus. And as well there are profound ontological effects from technology. The English Renaissance is attributable largely to the invention of the printing press, an OS enabling literacy, protestantism - these effects were largely unknown until The Guttenburg Galaxy came out. Similarly, punch cards invented for sewing machines were the basis for Turing, and the computer, sewing machines to satisfy the burgeoning middle class and its desire for rare silks from the far east, via the silk road stretching back in time, even earlier to the mythopoetic Klotho ~ spinner of destiny. This line, in fact, inspired the Ableton plugin Patter by Adam Florin, Who I met because of the above themes, and am writing an article with. Forester, in a Passage to India famously wrote 'only connect.' Now we transition from print to electronic and the "personal" computer, your vestigial mind, as A.I. moves to equanimity - meanwhile already shaping i.e. media/conflict/binaries-as-profit.

    Your comments here and elsewhere, are dismissive, irrespective of their accuracy - which I believe can reasonably be called into question, tho a dull and pointless exercise. That being said, I've posted probably 20 questions in this thread related to Cream, and am working my way through the manual and workflow, so I can ask some follow-ups and help the community here be creative, get ROI on their app investment, and enjoy the communal aspects afforded here in this gem of a forum. So I hope you'll chime in on my thread and fill in the blanks - that would be, simply, awesome.

    Yes, question the accuracy of my posts after spewing all that off topic nonsense, then ask me to fill in the blanks in your thread because you cant work out a chorder/arp, you're very special hah

  • As for Cream being simple, so what is complex, ever tried LW or Maya, maybe go and learn all of Reapers actions and build some macros, Cream complex, dont make me laugh.

  • Handbags are for dancing around....

  • @Flexinoodle said:
    As for Cream being simple, so what is complex, ever tried LW or Maya, maybe go and learn all of Reapers actions and build some macros, Cream complex, dont make me laugh.

    We can't all be as clever as you.

  • Just had a go with the LaunchPad Pro, Really fun here:
    1. put LPP in Scale Mode, Blues, and Key C. (or whatever your flavor is)
    2. In Cream Global Section - Select Blues for Scale in Cream, Key C.
    3. In Cream Track Section I just went with C0 /C8/CO.
    4. In Cream Select LPP for your MIDI Input, and Cream Virtual Source for MIDI Output
    5. In Ableton Create MIDI Track with input from Cream
    6. Drop an Instrument on the MIDI Track, play some notes on the LPP and you're off

    Here's a quick video:

  • @Flexinoodle said:
    Yes, question the accuracy of my posts after spewing all that off topic nonsense, then ask me to fill in the blanks in your thread because you cant work out a chorder/arp, you're very special hah

    Well he probably has more friends than you, so there's that I guess.

  • @Ocsprey said:
    Just had a go with the LaunchPad Pro, Really fun here:
    1. put LPP in Scale Mode, Blues, and Key C. (or whatever your flavor is)
    2. In Cream Global Section - Select Blues for Scale in Cream, Key C.
    3. In Cream Track Section I just went with C0 /C8/CO.
    4. In Cream Select LPP for your MIDI Input, and Cream Virtual Source for MIDI Output
    5. In Ableton Create MIDI Track with input from Cream
    6. Drop an Instrument on the MIDI Track, play some notes on the LPP and you're off

    Here's a quick video:

    Show off :)

  • edited December 2016

    @JohnnyGoodyear Why thank you kind Sir. Just for you.. Part II with Modstep kickin' it too... Off to do my nails now :)

  • @Flexinoodle in the Cream synthesiser, in the oscillator 'raw' wave directory there's a series of waves DW8001 to DW8014. Do you by any chance know if they're derived from Korg's DW8000 digitally generated wave system?

    I must say (and I think I've said it before back when Cream was first out on the iPad): The synth has a couple of things I found odd. The filter sounds quite primitively implemented on most of the filter models, although the 'bell' filter type (?) seems quite nice. The other thing is that I can't get the amplitude envelope to do anything like a short enough attack. In fact it seems to me that there's some strange miscalculation on the attack timing throughout its range depending where the decay is. Other than that, not a bad simple little synth, though.

  • @Wally said:
    Jeez , it's late here but I'll try a brief response to some of these.
    as original beta tester who as yet has failed to honour video tutorial promises ;
    edited original with my unofficial TBOMK responses in brackets :

    @Ocsprey said:

    >

    I like how it creates and displays working Virtual Ports, and the option to Auto-Connect available ports on load-up is great. I like the Gui too, the pattern editor seems small (ah, but I see there's a Quick Edit button that brings up a good sized pattern editor interface, small but then lots of on screen options is good, I'm not a good menu diver whilst making music, the knobs for Gate/Swing etc look great. I like the note displays on the keyboard, and I haven't touched the synth yet, but it looks fun, and I see Preset saving is available... I'm wondering if the synths are modulating the patterns, haven't read but the first few pages of the manual, which also gives a favorable impression as it's the same manual for desktop/iPad version... wondering if project transfers work? I have the demo version of Cream for the Mac, I'm going to buy it if that's the case. Can patterns be imported/exported as MIDI? What's its IAA etc status?

    ( Synths dont modulate patterns , not sure what you mean . Presets are transferrable between desktop software , Songs contain Presets + ipad only settings .
    No direct export of midi file - record it in realtime . Cream works in IAA mode as Generator for synth audio )

    Got it, and that Audiobus preset saving is there from Manual. Like the multiple MIDI outs as well, easy way to separate the 4 parts. Have to say, Cream has yet to crash, and the highest I've seen its CPU meter was 11%. And I also have to say, that the workflow makes sense to me now. It was understanding of difference between sequencing and arpeggiation @Wally gave , and Manual explanation of "Chords contain only information about the Intervals between notes. This is important thing tor remember." (18), node intervals / chords where the Chord is basically timestamped to the note played on the keyboard. The basenote is the 1st note of the second octave / 13.

    This all makes the Chord Memory aspect make sense, as well Cream's schema, which makes setting up controllers/instruments smooth. Cream's Virtual MIDI ports are darn good so far, coupled with IAC Driver Busses on Mac, or other apps, the by-track MIDI routing works great, and you can push a ton of sound, or just MIDI out by track.

    I used the Cream Virtual MIDI port, and the IAC Driver bus on the Mac, then in Live you can set up multiple Instruments/tracks/hardwares etc., to play into and out of Cream's tracks.

    When I started playing into Cream with the LPP, I got some goofy behavior, because if the Control Zone is enabled in Configuration, there's a sizable range of notes that toggle patterns, and the pattern functions C0-A#0 and C1-B1, still a useful feature, but turned off.

    Routing back to Ableton was normal, Modstep's keyboard/pads played in great, and had Cream playing Elastic Drums, and sent Cream to Moebius as well. The various Copy/Paste-to all, and bypass/transpose of the pattern editor Modes, Randomize is insta-jam of course. Modstep template would rock, so would Elastic Drums, on an unrelated hope.

    Little tip: Use the Select tool in the Pattern Editor to highlight a part of the pattern, then hit Random Button - good use along with being able to copy/paste any part of a pattern to any other.

    Locking the knobs up top allows switching presets while maintaining the values, good idea.

    The MIDI Learn aspect detailed in the Manual isn't working for me:
    "MIDI learn
    **Every **knob has ability to be controlled by MIDI CC messages.
    MIDI learn can be toggled on/off by tapping the MIDI learn button. Only one control can have the same CC value at the same time.
    MIDI learn controls obey the focus mode where UI button is moved only after the external control matches Cream control value." (5).

    I haven't been able to MIDI Learn anything so far, and get N/A on the areas that do appear to be MIDI-learnable, which are not "Every" knob, as far as I can tell.

    I figured out the CC, and Teach aspect of the Pattern Editor though, You can basically assign 1-127 to those 8 buttons, and use them to trigger external stuff, slick! But like @Wally noted, they don't control the internal synth.

    Synth interaction with the Pattern's... or its general function, I still don't get... but I've not yet tried figuring it, so that's next.

    Overall, no doubt I'm a fan. Along with all the above, it's given me incentive to learn more about Chords, which is fun.

  • Hi. Reviving this thread for a couple of what I hope are simple questions.

    1) for some reason, I cannot change the tempo. Tap or sliding finger has no effect. It worked before so I’m wondering if I’ve got something locked. Tried soft boot of iPad to no avail.
    2) are chords arpeggiated chords only? I assume so.

    Thanks. Fun app. Making minor headway ...

  • I’ve been digging Kirnu Cream lately! I used it heavily in combination with Laplace in this track:

    http://udagan.bandcamp.com/track/t-kh

    The unexpected killer feature for me is how the sequencer features such a simple integration for modulating CC values. Very powerful addition.

    @kinkujin said:
    Hi. Reviving this thread for a couple of what I hope are simple questions.

    1) for some reason, I cannot change the tempo. Tap or sliding finger has no effect. It worked before so I’m wondering if I’ve got something locked. Tried soft boot of iPad to no avail.
    2) are chords arpeggiated chords only? I assume so.

    Thanks. Fun app. Making minor headway ...

    With regard to no.2 — I don’t have an iPad with me so can’t check the name of the page but I believe that you can sequence any/all of the chord memory notes to sound any any time during the progression.

  • @OscarSouth said:
    I’ve been digging Kirnu Cream lately! I used it heavily in combination with Laplace in this track:

    http://udagan.bandcamp.com/track/t-kh

    The unexpected killer feature for me is how the sequencer features such a simple integration for modulating CC values. Very powerful addition.

    @kinkujin said:
    Hi. Reviving this thread for a couple of what I hope are simple questions.

    1) for some reason, I cannot change the tempo. Tap or sliding finger has no effect. It worked before so I’m wondering if I’ve got something locked. Tried soft boot of iPad to no avail.
    2) are chords arpeggiated chords only? I assume so.

    Thanks. Fun app. Making minor headway ...

    With regard to no.2 — I don’t have an iPad with me so can’t check the name of the page but I believe that you can sequence any/all of the chord memory notes to sound any any time during the progression.

    It IS a great app and it DOES require some night school.....

  • @OscarSouth said:
    I’ve been digging Kirnu Cream lately! I used it heavily in combination with Laplace in this track:

    http://udagan.bandcamp.com/track/t-kh

    The unexpected killer feature for me is how the sequencer features such a simple integration for modulating CC values. Very powerful addition.

    @kinkujin said:
    Hi. Reviving this thread for a couple of what I hope are simple questions.

    1) for some reason, I cannot change the tempo. Tap or sliding finger has no effect. It worked before so I’m wondering if I’ve got something locked. Tried soft boot of iPad to no avail.
    2) are chords arpeggiated chords only? I assume so.

    Thanks. Fun app. Making minor headway ...

    With regard to no.2 — I don’t have an iPad with me so can’t check the name of the page but I believe that you can sequence any/all of the chord memory notes to sound any any time during the progression.

    That track is marvelous! Spooky, creepy, haunting. Love the score. Please do tell more about the making of it. I love the narration, but couldn’t understand the dialog at around the 20 second mark.

    I need to read the manual on this app. Really getting stuck now. Night school indeed!

  • I never bought Cream. Maybe never will... :lol:
    But it was worth reading this post to listen to your track, @OscarSouth

  • @OscarSouth said:
    I’ve been digging Kirnu Cream lately! I used it heavily in combination with Laplace in this track:

    http://udagan.bandcamp.com/track/t-kh

    By the by, this is exceptional. I really liked it, in all aspects. And what a voice she has. The ways some words are pronounced is mesmerizing. Did you find the vocal or write it?

  • edited October 2018

    @kinkujin said:
    Hi. Reviving this thread for a couple of what I hope are simple questions.

    1) for some reason, I cannot change the tempo. Tap or sliding finger has no effect. It worked before so I’m wondering if I’ve got something locked. Tried soft boot of iPad to no avail.
    2) are chords arpeggiated chords only? I assume so.

    Ok now, just in case anyone is curious re: 1). I had “sync to input” selected in the Settings menu. Once I deselected that, I was able to set tempo again.

  • Thanks all for the positive feedback on the track!

    @kinkujin said:

    @OscarSouth said:
    I’ve been digging Kirnu Cream lately! I used it heavily in combination with Laplace in this track:

    http://udagan.bandcamp.com/track/t-kh

    The unexpected killer feature for me is how the sequencer features such a simple integration for modulating CC values. Very powerful addition.

    @kinkujin said:
    Hi. Reviving this thread for a couple of what I hope are simple questions.

    1) for some reason, I cannot change the tempo. Tap or sliding finger has no effect. It worked before so I’m wondering if I’ve got something locked. Tried soft boot of iPad to no avail.
    2) are chords arpeggiated chords only? I assume so.

    Thanks. Fun app. Making minor headway ...

    With regard to no.2 — I don’t have an iPad with me so can’t check the name of the page but I believe that you can sequence any/all of the chord memory notes to sound any any time during the progression.

    That track is marvelous! Spooky, creepy, haunting. Love the score. Please do tell more about the making of it. I love the narration, but couldn’t understand the dialog at around the 20 second mark.

    Glad to hear that you enjoyed the track! We did our best to keep the vocal clear so I'll have a look at the session at the 20s moment to see if there's anything specific that I can fix the future work. was quite challenging in mixing/mastering actually, because the dynamic range of the track goes from speaking over ambience to massive electronic production and back a couple of times. If you'd like to see the lyrics in more detail, they are included in the track info on the bandcamp page.

    In terms of 'making of', here the list of iOS apps involved:

    Audiobus
    Kirnu Cream
    RuisMaker
    Laplace Synth
    Moog Model D
    Photophore Synth
    BeatMaker 3 Sampler
    Reslice
    Grind Distortion
    Discord4
    AUFX:Space

    Mixed & Mastered with Harrison Mixbus (Linux)

    I had my Mixbus machine (running in Debian based Linux) running and connected to an iCA4+ interface, with an iPad Air2 connected to the same device. I routed audio and MIDI between the two machines and tracked everything in Mixbus. Mixbus slaved very well to a MIDI clock when needed and the automatically calculated delay compensation was flawless.

    @JohnnyGoodyear said:

    @OscarSouth said:
    I’ve been digging Kirnu Cream lately! I used it heavily in combination with Laplace in this track:

    http://udagan.bandcamp.com/track/t-kh

    By the by, this is exceptional. I really liked it, in all aspects. And what a voice she has. The ways some words are pronounced is mesmerizing. Did you find the vocal or write it?

    Thanks! It's really nice to hear such great feedback! Saydyy was also very happy to read this!

    The spoken word (story) is original and was written by Saydyy, based on old folk legends from her home place (the republic of Sakha).

    The backing vocals were all improvised. The higher ones in the middle were more normal 'contemporary' improvisation and the lower BVs behind the second part of the narrative were a more traditional 'shamanic' style that is found in Sakha folk culture.

    There are actually much more vocals than that too! Almost all the ambient wind/animal sounds you hear were recorded by Saydyy, using her voice. You can see a live example of this kind of vocals at around 2:20ish here:

  • @OscarSouth said:
    Thanks all for the positive feedback on the track!

    @kinkujin said:

    @OscarSouth said:
    I’ve been digging Kirnu Cream lately! I used it heavily in combination with Laplace in this track:

    http://udagan.bandcamp.com/track/t-kh

    The unexpected killer feature for me is how the sequencer features such a simple integration for modulating CC values. Very powerful addition.

    @kinkujin said:
    Hi. Reviving this thread for a couple of what I hope are simple questions.

    1) for some reason, I cannot change the tempo. Tap or sliding finger has no effect. It worked before so I’m wondering if I’ve got something locked. Tried soft boot of iPad to no avail.
    2) are chords arpeggiated chords only? I assume so.

    Thanks. Fun app. Making minor headway ...

    With regard to no.2 — I don’t have an iPad with me so can’t check the name of the page but I believe that you can sequence any/all of the chord memory notes to sound any any time during the progression.

    That track is marvelous! Spooky, creepy, haunting. Love the score. Please do tell more about the making of it. I love the narration, but couldn’t understand the dialog at around the 20 second mark.

    Glad to hear that you enjoyed the track! We did our best to keep the vocal clear so I'll have a look at the session at the 20s moment to see if there's anything specific that I can fix the future work. was quite challenging in mixing/mastering actually, because the dynamic range of the track goes from speaking over ambience to massive electronic production and back a couple of times. If you'd like to see the lyrics in more detail, they are included in the track info on the bandcamp page.

    In terms of 'making of', here the list of iOS apps involved:

    Audiobus
    Kirnu Cream
    RuisMaker
    Laplace Synth
    Moog Model D
    Photophore Synth
    BeatMaker 3 Sampler
    Reslice
    Grind Distortion
    Discord4
    AUFX:Space

    Mixed & Mastered with Harrison Mixbus (Linux)

    I had my Mixbus machine (running in Debian based Linux) running and connected to an iCA4+ interface, with an iPad Air2 connected to the same device. I routed audio and MIDI between the two machines and tracked everything in Mixbus. Mixbus slaved very well to a MIDI clock when needed and the automatically calculated delay compensation was flawless.

    @JohnnyGoodyear said:

    @OscarSouth said:
    I’ve been digging Kirnu Cream lately! I used it heavily in combination with Laplace in this track:

    http://udagan.bandcamp.com/track/t-kh

    By the by, this is exceptional. I really liked it, in all aspects. And what a voice she has. The ways some words are pronounced is mesmerizing. Did you find the vocal or write it?

    Thanks! It's really nice to hear such great feedback! Saydyy was also very happy to read this!

    The spoken word (story) is original and was written by Saydyy, based on old folk legends from her home place (the republic of Sakha).

    The backing vocals were all improvised. The higher ones in the middle were more normal 'contemporary' improvisation and the lower BVs behind the second part of the narrative were a more traditional 'shamanic' style that is found in Sakha folk culture.

    There are actually much more vocals than that too! Almost all the ambient wind/animal sounds you hear were recorded by Saydyy, using her voice. You can see a live example of this kind of vocals at around 2:20ish here:

    Excellent background. Very generous of you. Lots to learn from there. I'm going to be brutally frank with you and say that the first 95% of the 'story' was so good and so powerful, and perhaps more than anything so professionally believable, that I was left hanging a little by the end. Seemed sudden and almost without resolution. I want more, either pathos, fear or understanding. But that's just one man's feedback. And I DO NOT mean to be churlish at all, it's a lovely piece. Next up I want her to work on something written in the first person wherein she is a private detective plying her trade between forest and ice. :)

  • @JohnnyGoodyear said:

    @OscarSouth said:
    Thanks all for the positive feedback on the track!

    @kinkujin said:

    @OscarSouth said:
    I’ve been digging Kirnu Cream lately! I used it heavily in combination with Laplace in this track:

    http://udagan.bandcamp.com/track/t-kh

    The unexpected killer feature for me is how the sequencer features such a simple integration for modulating CC values. Very powerful addition.

    @kinkujin said:
    Hi. Reviving this thread for a couple of what I hope are simple questions.

    1) for some reason, I cannot change the tempo. Tap or sliding finger has no effect. It worked before so I’m wondering if I’ve got something locked. Tried soft boot of iPad to no avail.
    2) are chords arpeggiated chords only? I assume so.

    Thanks. Fun app. Making minor headway ...

    With regard to no.2 — I don’t have an iPad with me so can’t check the name of the page but I believe that you can sequence any/all of the chord memory notes to sound any any time during the progression.

    That track is marvelous! Spooky, creepy, haunting. Love the score. Please do tell more about the making of it. I love the narration, but couldn’t understand the dialog at around the 20 second mark.

    Glad to hear that you enjoyed the track! We did our best to keep the vocal clear so I'll have a look at the session at the 20s moment to see if there's anything specific that I can fix the future work. was quite challenging in mixing/mastering actually, because the dynamic range of the track goes from speaking over ambience to massive electronic production and back a couple of times. If you'd like to see the lyrics in more detail, they are included in the track info on the bandcamp page.

    In terms of 'making of', here the list of iOS apps involved:

    Audiobus
    Kirnu Cream
    RuisMaker
    Laplace Synth
    Moog Model D
    Photophore Synth
    BeatMaker 3 Sampler
    Reslice
    Grind Distortion
    Discord4
    AUFX:Space

    Mixed & Mastered with Harrison Mixbus (Linux)

    I had my Mixbus machine (running in Debian based Linux) running and connected to an iCA4+ interface, with an iPad Air2 connected to the same device. I routed audio and MIDI between the two machines and tracked everything in Mixbus. Mixbus slaved very well to a MIDI clock when needed and the automatically calculated delay compensation was flawless.

    @JohnnyGoodyear said:

    @OscarSouth said:
    I’ve been digging Kirnu Cream lately! I used it heavily in combination with Laplace in this track:

    http://udagan.bandcamp.com/track/t-kh

    By the by, this is exceptional. I really liked it, in all aspects. And what a voice she has. The ways some words are pronounced is mesmerizing. Did you find the vocal or write it?

    Thanks! It's really nice to hear such great feedback! Saydyy was also very happy to read this!

    The spoken word (story) is original and was written by Saydyy, based on old folk legends from her home place (the republic of Sakha).

    The backing vocals were all improvised. The higher ones in the middle were more normal 'contemporary' improvisation and the lower BVs behind the second part of the narrative were a more traditional 'shamanic' style that is found in Sakha folk culture.

    There are actually much more vocals than that too! Almost all the ambient wind/animal sounds you hear were recorded by Saydyy, using her voice. You can see a live example of this kind of vocals at around 2:20ish here:

    Excellent background. Very generous of you. Lots to learn from there. I'm going to be brutally frank with you and say that the first 95% of the 'story' was so good and so powerful, and perhaps more than anything so professionally believable, that I was left hanging a little by the end. Seemed sudden and almost without resolution. I want more, either pathos, fear or understanding. But that's just one man's feedback. And I DO NOT mean to be churlish at all, it's a lovely piece. Next up I want her to work on something written in the first person wherein she is a private detective plying her trade between forest and ice. :)

    Feedback is always appreciated, thanks very much!

    We’ve been really amazed with the reception to the spoken word. It was a challenge in concept, composition and production, and certainly an experiment. Biggest take away for me is that a 6 minute track felt like a 2 minute ditty in terms of what we could fit in. I think musically it worked well and allowed for expressive development of the core elements without being repetitive. I also think we need to make more work with longer forms! Future tracks may be ‘part 1’ ‘part 2’ and we will definitely revisit the supernatural folklore of ancient Sakha.

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