Redshrike 2.0

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@brambos said:
Guys, chill please. Some people would like Troublemaker to feature its sequencer inside the AU. Duly noted.

As a professional interaction designer since the mid-90s I've designed a fair few user interfaces so I'd like to think I can judge what constitutes a nice user experience. Fact is: AUs only have a 175 pixel height on the iPhone SE and a rather measly 202 pixels on the very common 4.7" iPhone screens.

I could not cram a 3+ octave sequencer in there in a satisfactory way. I tested vertical scrolling and concluded it did not meet my quality standards. Unless Redshrike has a 3 octave pianoroll in there somewhere I do not see why I should "study this app" as their design challenges were rather different from mine.

Many people enjoy the sequencer in the Troublemaker. I'm not sure they would have liked it as much if I had compromised it by force fitting it into the AU.

Can we now please move on to enjoying the fact that Icegear have now given us an excellent update to Redshrike?

realdavidai

@supadom said:

@JohnnyGoodyear said:

@supadom said:
Wow, the sliding control strip is pure genius. I wish other multi page synths were like this. Also UI in general is pretty sweet.

? Don't want to think I'm missing out on pure genius! Do you mean the thingie at the bottom left of the keyboard that pops out?

No, the whole scrollable (left to right) red panel with controls. I know seems silly calling it a genius idea but I've never seen this on a synth and definitely prefer it to a multi page approach a la Thor.

Not an AU but this is also similar to how the Alchemy in GarageBand works. I really like this approach. Hope other developers try it.

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@realdavidai said:

@supadom said:

@JohnnyGoodyear said:

@supadom said:
Wow, the sliding control strip is pure genius. I wish other multi page synths were like this. Also UI in general is pretty sweet.

? Don't want to think I'm missing out on pure genius! Do you mean the thingie at the bottom left of the keyboard that pops out?

No, the whole scrollable (left to right) red panel with controls. I know seems silly calling it a genius idea but I've never seen this on a synth and definitely prefer it to a multi page approach a la Thor.

Not an AU but this is also similar to how the Alchemy in GarageBand works. I really like this approach. Hope other developers try it.

Wooji juice did it with grain science at least on iphone

That..should be au too

JRSIV

Icegear synths are staples of an iOS synth collection. Among the first instruments I bought for iOS, I love all of them, Cassini especially.

I look at the Icegear stuff like the digital version of Moog synths if that makes any sense. Moog stuff is very "analog", with warm, fat and buttery commonly thrown around as descriptor's.

The Icegear synths are very "digital", spiky, cold and with a very nice sheen on everything. While I'm an old analog fan boy I don't mind the digital character in certain things. Some synths can sound all farty & dark trying to adhere to that "analog" tradition. Done right digital synths can sound incredible.

Redshrike sounds really good. Like some have noted it shares some character sound timbres with the other apps in the IceGear line but it's has its own deal as well. I love the phaser like LFO pulses you can get at every stage of the signal chain. The GUI holds up and is very is to use as an app or AU.

I spent the last few days with Redshrike making presets and had a blast... Excellent work.

ExAsperis99

Best thing about the app is that "sustain" is misspelled. And before you think about it, I have already copyrighted Suatain as my Québécois drag queen name.

AudioGus

@ExAsperis99 said:
Best thing about the app is that "sustain" is misspelled. And before you think about it, I have already copyrighted Suatain as my Québécois drag queen name.

Dibs on cover drag queen: Sweatstain

Paul16

Lovely sounding synth, to my ears at least, thanks for the update.
The previously mentioned resonator / mod thing is delightful.

Proofreading mode - I'm wondering if that's a typo on the 'filter suatain' dial, or that it's in fact something completely different to 'sustain', or maybe I've got a special one off version of the app

RulesOfBlazon

@ExAsperis99 said:
Best thing about the app is that "sustain" is misspelled. And before you think about it, I have already copyrighted Suatain as my Québécois drag queen name.

Can't say I thought about that... or was gonna think about it...

wim

@Paul16 said:
Proofreading mode - I'm wondering if that's a typo on the 'filter suatain' dial, or that it's in fact something completely different to 'sustain', or maybe I've got a special one off version of the app

Hang on to it. It'll be worth a lot of money some day.

Brain

I've never heard of this one - I hope the iPhone version is relatively new because it would help explain why it isn't on my list of iPhone apps to try.

srcer

Nov 30 2016 release date, almost 6 months ago, so ancient by cult of new standards

Brain

@ExAsperis99 said:
Best thing about the app is that "sustain" is misspelled. And before you think about it, I have already copyrighted Suatain as my Québécois drag queen name.

I can be one of those 'grammar Nazis' who has many times called out on the rules of written communication (yes, rules exist... for good reasons) that if I had DL'ed this app & caught that misspelling I may well have deleted the app JUST for that reason alone. How much research does it take to put a professional face on your efforts to communicate - even if English isn't your first language, yet attempt to use it anyway? Forget about the primary English users who themselves don't have it together...

If you know the rules, you will always use them. If not, you will rarely communicate well with others IN that language. Twitter (for example) may have character limits (which I always find ways around regardless) but this forum does not. Please allow us the opportunity to understand what you post the first read-through by using proper capitalization and punctuation.

JohnnyGoodyear

RulesOfBlazon

@Brain said:

@ExAsperis99 said:
Best thing about the app is that "sustain" is misspelled. And before you think about it, I have already copyrighted Suatain as my Québécois drag queen name.

I can be one of those 'grammar Nazis' who has many times called out on the rules of written communication (yes, rules exist... for good reasons) that if I had DL'ed this app & caught that misspelling

The most authoritative American sources on these rules (most notably, the Chicago Manual of Style) call for double quotation marks around expressions like "grammar Nazis," and they require the full articulation of the word "and" instead of the ampersand you used.

ExAsperis99

@RulesOfBlazon said:

@ExAsperis99 said:
Best thing about the app is that "sustain" is misspelled. And before you think about it, I have already copyrighted Suatain as my Québécois drag queen name.

Can't say I thought about that... or was gonna think about it...

It's OK. > @RulesOfBlazon said:

@Brain said:

@ExAsperis99 said:
Best thing about the app is that "sustain" is misspelled. And before you think about it, I have already copyrighted Suatain as my Québécois drag queen name.

I can be one of those 'grammar Nazis' who has many times called out on the rules of written communication (yes, rules exist... for good reasons) that if I had DL'ed this app & caught that misspelling

The most authoritative American sources on these rules (most notably, the Chicago Manual of Style) call for double quotation marks around expressions like "grammar Nazis," and they require the full articulation of the word "and" instead of the ampersand you used.

Haha.
I won't begin to pretend to understand British orthography, but they use single quotes, for some weird reason. (And they call them inverted commas, which is adorable.)

Although it is hard to unsee "suatain" once you've seen it.

JohnnyGoodyear

Of course they're inverted commas. Silly man.

ExAsperis99

@JohnnyGoodyear said:
Of course they're inverted commas. Silly man.

Dude. You probably put your commas OUTSIDE THE QUOTES.
Madness.

And before we get into the whole birthplace of the language etc., well, stop right there.
Read this.

Actually, you don't need to read the whole thing. Salient sentence:
"An Englishwoman lecturing Americans on semicolons is a little like an American lecturing the French on sauces."

srcer

I see "Sustain" in the Filter and Amplifier sections, both spelled correctly. Guess he already fixed it
Along with synchronization issues per the version history

srcer

@Samu said:

@theartwebreathe said:
@samu @gonekrazy3000 Just received a response from the developer about the tempo sync:

"Redshrike running as Audio Unit Extension is synchronized only when
the host application is playing. If tempo information is provided even
when the host is stopped, I am considering changing the specification
so that it follows that tempo. However, this may not work depending on
host implementation."

Thanks!

The problem here is that even when the sequencer is playing and it's still 'shaky'.

This is easy to try in Cubasis. Put a 1 bar long note on a track and set the arpeggiator speed to 1/16. In practice the result should be 16 repeating notes one after another in continuous loop. It works if I manually trigger the 16 notes, but when using the arpeggiator it 'halts' briefly before it loops. I'll try with a few more hosts...

Looks like a fix was made. Working for you?

ExAsperis99

@srcer said:
I see "Sustain" in the Filter and Amplifier sections, both spelled correctly. Guess he already fixed it
Along with synchronization issues per the version history

Aw, rats.
I loved that. It's like the only time I ever feel smart working with synthesizers.

gonekrazy3000

@srcer said:

@Samu said:

@theartwebreathe said:
@samu @gonekrazy3000 Just received a response from the developer about the tempo sync:

"Redshrike running as Audio Unit Extension is synchronized only when
the host application is playing. If tempo information is provided even
when the host is stopped, I am considering changing the specification
so that it follows that tempo. However, this may not work depending on
host implementation."

Thanks!

The problem here is that even when the sequencer is playing and it's still 'shaky'.

This is easy to try in Cubasis. Put a 1 bar long note on a track and set the arpeggiator speed to 1/16. In practice the result should be 16 repeating notes one after another in continuous loop. It works if I manually trigger the 16 notes, but when using the arpeggiator it 'halts' briefly before it loops. I'll try with a few more hosts...

Looks like a fix was made. Working for you?

The update nixes the ability to use more than one instance. Currently working on a project with 3. So temporarily not updating

u0421793

@RulesOfBlazon said:

@Brain said:

@ExAsperis99 said:
Best thing about the app is that "sustain" is misspelled. And before you think about it, I have already copyrighted Suatain as my Québécois drag queen name.

I can be one of those 'grammar Nazis' who has many times called out on the rules of written communication (yes, rules exist... for good reasons) that if I had DL'ed this app & caught that misspelling

The most authoritative American sources on these rules (most notably, the Chicago Manual of Style) call for double quotation marks around expressions like "grammar Nazis," and they require the full articulation of the word "and" instead of the ampersand you used.

As a typography fanatic, I must point out that the double-prime glyphs you use on "grammar Nazis," should more correctly be actual quotation marks such as “grammar Nazis,”. (That’s one thing I’m really thankful for about the iPad Pro keyboard – the typographical quotes and ellipsis … works as they do on a proper Mac keyboard).

Also, shouldn’t “grammar Nazis” be expanded out upon first usage to the full name of the Nazi party — the National Socialist German Workers’ Party — which reminds me, I must watch The Producers again (either version, they’re both excellent in my opinion).

Samu

@srcer said:

Looks like a fix was made. Working for you?

The latest update to Redshrike works fine with Cubasis

RulesOfBlazon

@u0421793 said:

@RulesOfBlazon said:

@Brain said:

@ExAsperis99 said:
Best thing about the app is that "sustain" is misspelled. And before you think about it, I have already copyrighted Suatain as my Québécois drag queen name.

I can be one of those 'grammar Nazis' who has many times called out on the rules of written communication (yes, rules exist... for good reasons) that if I had DL'ed this app & caught that misspelling

The most authoritative American sources on these rules (most notably, the Chicago Manual of Style) call for double quotation marks around expressions like "grammar Nazis," and they require the full articulation of the word "and" instead of the ampersand you used.

As a typography fanatic, I must point out that the double-prime glyphs you use on "grammar Nazis," should more correctly be actual quotation marks such as “grammar Nazis,”. (That’s one thing I’m really thankful for about the iPad Pro keyboard – the typographical quotes and ellipsis … works as they do on a proper Mac keyboard).

Also, shouldn’t “grammar Nazis” be expanded out upon first usage to the full name of the Nazi party — the National Socialist German Workers’ Party — which reminds me, I must watch The Producers again (either version, they’re both excellent in my opinion).

You betcha!

Brain

@RulesOfBlazon said:

@Brain said:

@ExAsperis99 said:

The most authoritative American sources on these rules (most notably, the Chicago Manual of Style) call for double quotation marks around expressions like "grammar Nazis," and they require the full articulation of the word "and" instead of the ampersand you used.

Fortunately, an & is a legitimate & completely recognizable symbol for a word, something like what contractions afford us. 'Suatain' fails because it fails, in spelling, context & professionalism.

wim

@JohnnyGoodyear said:
Of course they're inverted commas. Silly man.

Careful about talkin' that way in Texas hombre. In a bar that could start a serious fight.

JohnnyGoodyear

@wim said:

@JohnnyGoodyear said:
Of course they're inverted commas. Silly man.

Careful about talkin' that way in Texas hombre. In a bar that could start a serious fight.

Maybe, but not here in The Socialist Republic of South Austin

Will

@Brain said:
... efforts to communicate - even if English...

This should be an em dash (—) not a hyphen (-). Also, it shouldn't have any spaces around it—see this CMOS FAQ entry.

RUST( i )K

@yug said:
I hope their other synths will become AU's too

Well that would be splendid.

Laplace one of the best ios apps ever

RulesOfBlazon

@JohnnyGoodyear said:

@wim said:

@JohnnyGoodyear said:
Of course they're inverted commas. Silly man.

Careful about talkin' that way in Texas hombre. In a bar that could start a serious fight.

Maybe, but not here in The Socialist Republic of South Austin

Actually think yer fine well north of South Austin- at least as far as Koenig, prolly even up to Round Rock and Cedar Park the way things are these days. Gotta start watchin yer tongue when ya git to Leander, tho, and once yer north of Georgetown, don't let them boys hear ya talkin about inverted commas...