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Roli Seaboard Block

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  • Hmmmmm, not so sure I agree about the lightpad especially at the price they want for it.

  • Sorry, all of this stuff is far to expensive for what it does. To get a few blocks and keyboard for a setup is as much as an iPad, and I just think they're not worth it.....I like the idea, but ££££....

  • @KlaatuNinja said:
    Sorry, all of this stuff is far to expensive for what it does. To get a few blocks and keyboard for a setup is as much as an iPad, and I just think they're not worth it.....I like the idea, but ££££....

    Depending.....for some it´s more worth than tapping on glass :)

  • Can somebody please talk me into buying this..?

    I wan't it, but I'm having a hard time spending this much on a 2 octave keyboard.

  • edited October 2017

    @nrgb said:
    Can somebody please talk me into buying this..?

    I wan't it, but I'm having a hard time spending this much on a 2 octave keyboard.

    I supose you didn’t see any Marco Parisi video... obviously he is a great keyboardist (and my gut says he has a seaboard as pillow) but everybody could understand what the seaboard brings for anyone who wants to make expressive music. It has the better of a keyboard, Garageband Smart instruments approach, Haken continuum fingerboard and now for a part of the price (usually over the 1.5k or more).
    So let’s check out some videos...

    Guitar leads?

    Bass (left hand) sax (right hand)

    Flute? (Corey Henry yaw!)

    The full video (for your pleasure). Notice the amazing work of Marco doing bass slapping in the background...

    @someone will say:
    ok Dubbylabby but these are experienced musicians...

    Well let’s see how managed Corey one of the first time he approaches it...

    @someone else or the same could point:
    These have the skills to manage it...

    Right and maybe it will be more step up for the mortals but I want to try it so badly ASAP.

    Buying one of the seaboard blocks you can grow into the biggers or just use it for riffs and licks...

    What do you feel now about those?

    Ps: Thanks for make me watch those vids once again. If I meet Marco Parisi someday in my life I will steal him some cells to clone him for teaching purposes. No, I’m not clonning medical student, I was still talking about the Rolis. :trollface:

  • Thanks for taking the time to put that post together!

    I had seen those already, but it was nice reminder as to why I want one so bad.

  • edited October 2017

    I need to go into an Applestore to try by myself to get totally nuts. I supose it could be my best advice or maybe I will come back and told you “dissssappoiinted” but I don’t think so.

    Meanwhile I get the money I will continue licking my keytar’s :naughty:

    Jokes about that last sentence are welcome of course... :smirk:

  • I really want one, but 2 octaves and the lack of the full Equator software is putting me off. But the Rise is too expensive... aaaargh.

  • Are they in any Apple Stores in the UK as yet have only seen the light blocks so far?

  • @Michael_R_Grant said:
    I really want one, but 2 octaves and the lack of the full Equator software is putting me off. But the Rise is too expensive... aaaargh.

    50 quid upgrade from the player to the full Equator if that's any consolation.

  • @Jocphone said:

    @Michael_R_Grant said:
    I really want one, but 2 octaves and the lack of the full Equator software is putting me off. But the Rise is too expensive... aaaargh.

    50 quid upgrade from the player to the full Equator if that's any consolation.

    That is a consolation! I feel that I would also need a Lightblock to do some XY stuff. Hmmmm, I should look at some Youtube videos of the two products in action together if anyone has made some!

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  • @eross said:
    i played one of these at gearfest, and they are totally worth the price. mpe instruments are so much fun to play. the expression is so natural. it's like playing real physical instrument. I purchased and am using the roli lightpad, and it is fantastic. if you have synthmaster on desktop it works as a mpe instrument as well. so coo

    Did you just say Synthmaster supports MPE?
    Are the patches already designed for MPE, or do you have to do the Controller assingsment for press/lift/slide yourself?

  • @teleb said:

    @eross said:
    i played one of these at gearfest, and they are totally worth the price. mpe instruments are so much fun to play. the expression is so natural. it's like playing real physical instrument. I purchased and am using the roli lightpad, and it is fantastic. if you have synthmaster on desktop it works as a mpe instrument as well. so coo

    Did you just say Synthmaster supports MPE?
    Are the patches already designed for MPE, or do you have to do the Controller assingsment for press/lift/slide yourself?

    yes synthmaster does support mpe. I can’t remember if there where mpe patches or not. I can check next time i get on my computer and double check. I don’t remember assigning cc’s when playing Mpe mode. i let you know.

  • edited October 2017

    The biggest musical purchase gaffe I ever made was thinking I could get along with just a 2-octave MIDI keyboard. Lucky it was a relatively cheap mistake.

  • @Max23 said:
    I don't like the grid. I'm a key player.

    I get your point, but think twice.
    There is an advantage to the grid. It offers you a new perspective, a new approach on melodies. Forces you to do something else than your trained patterns.
    Who knows, you might be coming up with a hook like that is great and you would not have found this hook line on the keyboard.

  • edited October 2017

    @nrgb said:
    Can somebody please talk me into buying this..?

    Buy this, buy this, buy this, buy this B) ;) :p

  • @oat_phipps said:
    The biggest musical purchase gaffe I ever made was thinking I could get along with just a 2-octave MIDI keyboard. Lucky it was a relatively cheap mistake.

    Did you add another block?

  • @realdavidai said:

    @oat_phipps said:
    The biggest musical purchase gaffe I ever made was thinking I could get along with just a 2-octave MIDI keyboard. Lucky it was a relatively cheap mistake.

    Did you add another block?

    Damnit, I only tried a brick.

  • While I like the idea of these Roli things, I'm still of the mindset that I need mappable knobs on a MIDI controller. Maybe that's an evolutionary flaw with me, but I know what I like.

  • Holy shit $1100 for a 49-key? I'll see myself out.

  • @oat_phipps said:
    Holy shit $1100 for a 49-key? I'll see myself out.

    Well. I linked 2 > @oat_phipps said:

    Holy shit $1100 for a 49-key? I'll see myself out.

    I linked two of them to get 4 octaves for 658$ total. And Im totally loving them. It might not be for you. I used to think the same till I tried the rise at a guitar center. Just had to get myself a seaboard after that. And having played with 2 octaves I needed 2 more hence the second block. Do not regret it at all :D

  • @nrgb said:
    Can somebody please talk me into buying this..?

    I wan't it, but I'm having a hard time spending this much on a 2 octave keyboard.

    Well. I bought one. Loved it and bought another. Take what you want from that. 4 octave goodness is a blast for me :D

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  • edited January 2018

    Yesterday I obtained a Lightpad M. It seems quite a lot of fun in SpringSound.

    I’m not familiar with it yet, but it seems to go backward – I’d find it far more natural if the frequency went higher toward the left direction instead of the other.

  • I don’t suppose you can create presets on the full Equator software on a desktop and then move that onto an iPad to play it there as a preset in Noise?

  • @gonekrazy3000 said:

    @oat_phipps said:
    Holy shit $1100 for a 49-key? I'll see myself out.

    Well. I linked 2 > @oat_phipps said:

    Holy shit $1100 for a 49-key? I'll see myself out.

    I linked two of them to get 4 octaves for 658$ total. And Im totally loving them. It might not be for you. I used to think the same till I tried the rise at a guitar center. Just had to get myself a seaboard after that. And having played with 2 octaves I needed 2 more hence the second block. Do not regret it at all :D

    what if you had no interest in the equator software, would you still have gotten them?

  • edited January 2018

    @kobamoto said:

    @gonekrazy3000 said:

    @oat_phipps said:
    Holy shit $1100 for a 49-key? I'll see myself out.

    Well. I linked 2 > @oat_phipps said:

    Holy shit $1100 for a 49-key? I'll see myself out.

    I linked two of them to get 4 octaves for 658$ total. And Im totally loving them. It might not be for you. I used to think the same till I tried the rise at a guitar center. Just had to get myself a seaboard after that. And having played with 2 octaves I needed 2 more hence the second block. Do not regret it at all :D

    what if you had no interest in the equator software, would you still have gotten them?

    i use them with Kontakt. In ableton its a bit of a mess getting them to work but it works pretty well. more interesting is the daw that comes free. its very very good at editing mpe data. so i just export the audio from it into ableton for further mixing.

    Traktion waveform is just fantastic for editing mpe data:-

    Its basically a 100$ daw. for free. you can use the blocks with literally any vst.

  • thanks, and how do you feel about it when you're not using mpe at all, just as a regular controller?

  • edited January 2018

    @kobamoto said:
    thanks, and how do you feel about it when you're not using mpe at all, just as a regular controller?

    i would not use it at all for regular stuff. personally i prefer my k-boards, launchpad pro or my M-audio 88-es for regular keyboard playing or synthy stuff. but love the seaboard for non traditional playing like string instruments, wind instruments and stuff like pads etc. I'd suggest you go try out a seaboard at a guitar centre or whatever equivalent music store keeps them near you. I love them. but they are not a piano in any form. its like learning a different instrument. will be a couple years before i'm proficient enough with them to play normal things comfortably. but that isn't a bad thing at all :)

    in case you're wondering why i say it is massively different is both the white keys and black keys extend all the way up and down. so unlike a piano it takes quite some practice to not hit the pitches inbetween the white keys. whats interesting is string instruments and pads sound a lot more organic since every time you hit a note the pitch is slightly different and not exactly the same. using the pc editor or the "touch block" you can enable a keyboard mode that disables the pitches between the notes but it still takes getting used to due to the squishy material. and for me since i have Rsi playing fast melodies with the seaboard eventually gets quite painful. so for now my launchpad pro is my goto for most of my production work :)

    @kobamoto i tend to edit my posts instead of double posting so you might wanna reread my last 2 :)

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