new app Virsyn Harmony eight

Trueyorky

I love wonky and lo-fi

Korakios

@MonzoPro said:
Let's hope this thread doesn't do the 'personal attacks against people with a different opinion' thing again.

@MonzoPro said:
I can hear the pitch drifting slightly, you need new ears.

/ Polite mode off : /
First I don't give a f*** whether you like the app or not .
I stated that in the sound example I detuned some of the eight voices , not only pitch shifted . It means that I used specifically 2 pairs of voices having the same semitone pitch-shift , but different cent . (fine tuning)

Then you say :

@MonzoPro said:
.... It's awful, I don't know how anyone can think that's usable, unless it's in a track that deliberateyl sets ut to be wonky and lo-fi.

Which is misleading ,because people may think the app has a design flaw and sound is out of tune .

If the sound example you try to use for trolling was not mine , I wouldn't insist and waste my time to explain your rushed ' out of tune ' judgment.

Say whatever you want , I am done , just don't use my uploaded sounds for trolling.

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@Korakios said:

/ Polite mode off : /
First I don't give a f*** whether you like the app or not .
I stated that in the sound example I detuned some of the eight voices , not only pitch shifted . It means that I used specifically 2 pairs of voices having the same semitone pitch-shift , but different cent . (fine tuning)

/ Polite mode still on /

You've been arguing against mine and others less than successful experiences with this app from the beginning, yet admitted half way through the thread that you didn't have it. Which is a bit weird.

@Korakios said:

Say whatever you want , I am done , just don't use my uploaded sounds for trolling.

Im not trolling, I suggested someone uploaded a clip demonstrating the update (which I don't have), with clean guitar signal to show it works as you've stated, so those on the fence can make an informed purchase.

But as I've pointed out issues with your demo, you now say you deliberately detuned the repeats.

And then you say I'm guilty of 'misleading people'?

Again, weird.

The reason I'm hanging on in this thread, like a terrier attached to the leg of a postmans trousers, is that I'm still reading reports of audio quality issues since the update - and since most of us buy apps based on feedback in this forum, it'd be good to get a totally unbiased review. If the issues are fixed - great, let's hear it. And preferably not a detuned clip so we can't tell the difference.

Bootsy

This is GeoShred classical guitar thru harmony 8. With poly on, no pitch, no ensemble, and 5 delays. Not really playing anything just hitting notes and slides
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B41GUi__USywcEtGd25kc2FUTWs

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@Bootsy said:
This is GeoShred classical guitar thru harmony 8. With poly on, no pitch, no ensemble, and 5 delays. Not really playing anything just hitting notes and slides
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B41GUi__USywcEtGd25kc2FUTWs

That's nice, and very clean - it'd be good to hear it working with pitched echoes though, as that's where it was going astray when I used it, and chords too - since it's in poly mode.

Korakios

@MonzoPro

But as I've pointed out issues with your demo, you NOW say you deliberately detuned the repeats.

And then you say I'm guilty of 'misleading people'?

Again, weird.

Learn to read , you said another BS . You said NOW I mention the detuned repeats . But I explained it to you many times , beginning with

@Korakios said:

@MonzoPro said:

@Korakios said:
Guitar loop from BeatHawk first 4 bars dry, 50/50 , last bars wet

https://www.dropbox.com/s/e22u25l3ecirfh9/Harmony Eight-trimmed-converted.m4a?dl=0

That's better than before, but it's still glitchy, and I can hear the pitch going off a bit in places. With a longer delay and more pitch changes that'd be more noticable. Still not convinced, particularly compared to the clean repeats of Pitch Delay.

Lol, that was an 8 voice mix (some with much feedback, and D I F F E R E N T fine tuning) plus effects .
Pitch is NOT going off unless you want to. Maybe someone else could upload a boring classic delay example of Harmony8.
Consider 'Pitch Delay' as a different app and enjoy it

Search the previous posts, should have used bold capital letters before....
Keep trolling , I like it

OscarSouth

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@Korakios said:

@MonzoPro

But as I've pointed out issues with your demo, you NOW say you deliberately detuned the repeats.

And then you say I'm guilty of 'misleading people'?

Again, weird.

Learn to read , you said another BS . You said NOW I mention the detuned repeats . But I explained it to you many times , beginning with

@Korakios said:

@MonzoPro said:

@Korakios said:
Guitar loop from BeatHawk first 4 bars dry, 50/50 , last bars wet

https://www.dropbox.com/s/e22u25l3ecirfh9/Harmony Eight-trimmed-converted.m4a?dl=0

That's better than before, but it's still glitchy, and I can hear the pitch going off a bit in places. With a longer delay and more pitch changes that'd be more noticable. Still not convinced, particularly compared to the clean repeats of Pitch Delay.

Lol, that was an 8 voice mix (some with much feedback, and D I F F E R E N T fine tuning) plus effects .
Pitch is NOT going off unless you want to. Maybe someone else could upload a boring classic delay example of Harmony8.
Consider 'Pitch Delay' as a different app and enjoy it

Search the previous posts, should have used bold capital letters before....
Keep trolling , I like it

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I'm guessing people reading this are as bored as I am writing it, but just to clarify:

1. The NOW in my reply that you capitalised - I suggested a 'clean' demo, you put one up - you didn't say you'd deliberately detuned the repeats, just that you'd done a wet/dry mix. I queried the quality assuming you'd done a clean demo like I suggested, you then said you'd added the detuning. Hence using 'now' in the context of being told you'd done it, after my feedback, and not when you put it up.

2. I couldn't give a monkey's fist what type of demo you do - make your guitar sound like a million out of tune castanets or a donkey with his nuts in a vice. I couldn't care less. But if you want to give credibility to your continual assertions that this app is capable of clean, perfectly pitched, harmonic repeats then lets hear it. Responding to complaints that the repeats are detuned, with a demo with deliberately detuned repeats isn't really clarifying anything, is it.

Bootsy

Another try with chords, slides and pitched echos
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B41GUi__USywLXZFR3NZQmhHeVk

Korakios

@MonzoPro said:
Can anyone put up a demo that shows how good the new 'poly' version is? Opinion seems split down the middle with this app, so a clip with clean guitar going in - and coming out harmonised (not with all the knobs and effects turned to zero, that would be silly) and delayed would help the fence sitters make an informed choice.

Got to be guitar or clean synth chords though - mega distorted wobbly bass growls with no echo or fx applied don't count.

And

@MonzoPro
1. The NOW in my reply that you capitalised - I suggested a 'clean' demo, you put one up - you didn't say you'd deliberately detuned the repeats, just that you'd done a wet/dry mix. I queried the quality assuming you'd done a clean demo like I suggested, you then said you'd added the detuning. Hence using 'now' in the context of being told you'd done it, after my feedback, and not when you put it up.

[Deleted User]

@Korakios said:

@MonzoPro said:
Can anyone put up a demo that shows how good the new 'poly' version is? Opinion seems split down the middle with this app, so a clip with clean guitar going in - and coming out harmonised (not with all the knobs and effects turned to zero, that would be silly) and delayed would help the fence sitters make an informed choice.

Got to be guitar or clean synth chords though - mega distorted wobbly bass growls with no echo or fx applied don't count.

And

@MonzoPro
1. The NOW in my reply that you capitalised - I suggested a 'clean' demo, you put one up - you didn't say you'd deliberately detuned the repeats, just that you'd done a wet/dry mix. I queried the quality assuming you'd done a clean demo like I suggested, you then said you'd added the detuning. Hence using 'now' in the context of being told you'd done it, after my feedback, and not when you put it up.

I'm struggling to see the point you're making.

[Deleted User]

@Korakios said:

@MonzoPro said:
Can anyone put up a demo that shows how good the new 'poly' version is? Opinion seems split down the middle with this app, so a clip with clean guitar going in - and coming out harmonised (not with all the knobs and effects turned to zero, that would be silly) and delayed would help the fence sitters make an informed choice.

Got to be guitar or clean synth chords though - mega distorted wobbly bass growls with no echo or fx applied don't count.

And

@MonzoPro
1. The NOW in my reply that you capitalised - I suggested a 'clean' demo, you put one up - you didn't say you'd deliberately detuned the repeats, just that you'd done a wet/dry mix. I queried the quality assuming you'd done a clean demo like I suggested, you then said you'd added the detuning. Hence using 'now' in the context of being told you'd done it, after my feedback, and not when you put it up.

I'm struggling to see the point you're making - aside from the repeated insinuation that I'm a troll.

Korakios

@Bootsy said:
Another try with chords, slides and pitched echos
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B41GUi__USywLXZFR3NZQmhHeVk

Nice ,I may also have another look at Geoshred app

Shaken&Stirred

I'm one of the people who hasn't found this app usable. I will post my example and maybe someone can suggest what I'm doing wrong.

Audio file of me playing clean slide guitar in Ch1, send to Mix Bus A which has Harmony 8 loaded, and I added Mix bus B to add some gain, since the level of the audio file isn't super high (maybe that's part of the problem).

Here is the Harmony 8 setting - basically not doing much of anything, but still sounds "underwater" IMO.

Here's the audio, first time through is dry, no Harmony 8
Second time I have the send to Harmony 8 maxed, so 50/50 dry/wet
The third time through the riff, I turned down CHAN 1, so it's just the wet signal at that point.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ipcigakco4kd3cx/Harmony8-with slide gtr .wav?dl=0

Korakios

Try changing the algorithm to 'poly' and give it another chance

Shaken&Stirred

@Korakios said:

Try changing the algorithm to 'poly' and give it another chance

The source, in my case is monophonic, but I will try poly mode when I'm able to and report back.

JohnnyGoodyear

It's just Tottenham lads.

Trueyorky

Another update in from Virsyn including new pitch shifting algorithms and tape style delay. Can't wait to play some more with this - great support from Virsyn

Trueyorky

@VirSyn I love it.

eross

loving these quick updates, making this app even better! awesome

Korakios

Yes, drum sounds can be abused with delicate quality ! Plus the tape 'scratching' is great
They missed a bug on EQ GUI (which is 99.99% fixed) . When double tapping the value resets but the display is not updated .

Daveypoo

The new drum algorithm is great - messed with it a bit this morning and already got some cool results.

I'm sorry that others have had such a violent reaction to this app. I am enjoying the hell out of it, but honestly I didn't have any expectations when I bought it, and I bought it knowing that others had a spotty experience. I've had good luck with other VirSyn apps, so I have faith in the development team here and don't mind taking a leap of faith with them.

crifytosp

it's a powerful app. I think part of the problem was the name set an expectation. for me its more of a dubbey delay with pitch. does chords n harmonies but they're not its strong suit

gsm909

This is a REALLY hungry bastard effect. My mates Air1 with this loaded into AUM and Elastic Drums as a source in AUM sends the cpu spikes from 80-400%

Korakios

Indeed, on my Air2 also , as AU or IAA . Strangely on AB2 it works better .
Keep in mind that ElasticDrums is very CPU hungry app (at least on the current version)

Jocphone

@dvlmusic said:

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I'm sorry that others have had such a violent reaction to this app.

Well that's stirring it a bit. Some people expressed an opinion that they didn't like how it sounded. No need to over-egg.

I have been reading this thread from the fence and am sure many would have an easier time of deciding whether it was something worth buying if opinions were about a users own experiences rather than about their disdain over other's reviews.

crifytosp

feedback loop

Ben

I'm liking this so far for vocals but can't figure out how to get a hotter signal to record. Am I missing something obvious? I don't see a master gain or output.

Trueyorky

@Ben said:
I'm liking this so far for vocals but can't figure out how to get a hotter signal to record. Am I missing something obvious? I don't see a master gain or output.

Check the dynamic processor