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@Shaken&Stirred it's all your fault
Nah........this is something I've had in my mind for a few weeks based or provoked by a friend's troubles and the Van Booy line: Even if you have loved only once in your life, you’re ruined. It's not really finished, but what the hell is....
Forgiveness denied
Freaky face sculptures
made out of dismembered doll parts.
Traces of images left on a blank page
in a 19th century science journal.
Memory is a type of parasite that enters your gills
eats your tongue, and then replaces it.
Forgiveness denied.
That era has passed.
Nothing that belonged to it exists anymore.
And I’ve been told
people in the army do more by seven than I do
but when I wake up and turn to trace
the outline of your lips with mine
I will have done enough
and killed no one.
Nerves, arteries and muscles:
The art and science of embalming
on an eclipse expedition to Sydkoster Island, Sweden
for the eclipse of 1954
it was June 30.
Or a a photo by Vivian Maier, taken Florida, 1957.
Or a drive-in church in Massachusetts
six years before, in 1951
Sometimes it was hard to express how much you loved someone.
You said the words, but you could never quite capture the depth of it.
You could never quite hold someone tightly enough.
Sometimes it feels better not to talk.
At all. About anything. To anyone.
You wonder what he’s thinking when he shivers like that.
Even if you have loved only once in your life, you’re ruined (he says)
like popsicles made from Taiwan’s polluted water
And I’ve been told…
She’s very good at keeping secrets
Even if you have loved only once in your life, you’re ruined.
[Thanks to Wong Kar-Wai , Shane Koyczan and Simon Van Booy, among others…]
I like your song. I love first 10 seconds part of the song and I think it would very cool if it came back again at around 1:04 in the song. I like your soft voice, it fits the song perfectly. Well done!
I really, really like this @JohnnyGoodyear
Very original, intelligent lyrics. The spoken word parts remind me of something I can't put my finger on.
Vocals delivered with just the right intensity. I heard an occasional timing/pitch issue, but is that cause you've rushed this song through?
Very catchy 'ruined' part.
Good laid back drums too.
'It's not really finished, but what the hell is' reminds me of a line from Blade Runner. There's always tweaks we feel can be made, but I think you're 90% there with this one. The fact is, you've got a very good song there.
Felt the same. Loved the track but the start was weird (felt veeerry compressed in an artificial way). Loved the points where the big beat kicked back in. Awesome!
I'd be interested to hear what (digital) tools were used to make it. Is it sample based or real instruments?
This is awesome, loved the highish sounds in the middle. Very captivating! My only critique is personal taste - while it fitted the track I found the vocal to come across as quite 'blurry'. The track is quite richly textured so I felt like a more clear vocal would have fitted well.
Simply enjoyed this, I felt like it's most uplifting moment was when it kicked back in near the middle. I did find that the 8th notes in the bass near the start weren't gelling into the groove as much as I wanted (as a bassist in nit picky about groove). I would have tried playing around with with amp and filter envelopes a bit or lightly compressed a bus with bass and kick on the same channel.
Wicked playing, especially liked the nylon guitar and it's an interesting composition. Kept me listening. I feel like you're on '6.5' on the craziness scale with your electric guitar and bass though. Fusion should be absolutely apeshit! I'd love to see you play with the ridiculousness dial on 12 or 13. I know it's safely inside your technical ability!
Since I'm speaking about ridiculous fusion I'll just throw this up:

It's not an entry to SOTM, just some dicking around in a rehearsal room a (good) few years ago when the vocalist didn't show up for a rehearsal.
Thanks! There'll definitely be longer form pieces in this style coming through UDAGAN. I like writing 1 minute pieces as testers of different styles and concepts, then those things all go back into my palate as 'colours' to paint with on a larger canvas.
Thanks! I was surprised how little went in to make the texture so rich. My electro bass, double bass, touches of percussion and just a tiny bit of Lorentz in one passage.
It's always that way with 'acoustic' instruments though! (even the electric bass has special saddle pickups that capture the vibration of the body and carry the instruments overtones more richly).
Thanks very much! I love the shamanic drum sound too, haha. The track is sampled but I also love playing that instrument live!
I like this a lot, it's got a very good groove, and I love they way the different vocal styles are mixed - it definitely keeps it interesting. The only suggestion, is an arrangement one. The Van Booy line is definitely your hook, and it's a good one. It shows up for the first time at 2:00. I think it should come in at some point much earlier in the track, to get the listener "hooked". I think with that it would be aces! Doesn't sound unfinished at all. Very nice work!
Hi @OscarSouth.Thanks for listening. After @Shaken&Stirred said about the track, I just bought a pair of Focal Spirit Pro headphones( I needed a proper pair of headphones anyway) just in case it was my old Sony headphones. I couldn't hear the glitch. So I listened to the WAV file, just in case it was Sound Cloud( sometimes I found in the late evening, the quality become terrible, but ok during the day. Maybe because a lot of people are listening/streaming on Sound Cloud?...... Don't know why, but was the impression I got?).... Still cannot hear it still. Maybe my old ears?...... I use Ableton to sequence, as my Air 1 is not good enough for what I do now. I make my own loops from my Air 1, then transfer it onto my PC, & go from there sometimes. I use Ableton standard plugins, then on this track I Mastered with Slate Digital FG X plugin. When I create a track, I use a bit of samples, & instruments/Vst Plugins. Or sometimes I use the Air 1 as a sound source module recording into Ableton. But acapella are from normally Loopmasters/Futureloops, etc, also now I get them from Free vocals.com web site(these are free to use, to a degree, but are licensed with restrictions) whereas the others are Free. I always render the WAV file at -6 on the Master, before I play around for the Final Mastering stage(Slate Digital, or iZoptope)...... hope this makes sense?........ Anyway, I have to say, the Focal Spirit Pro are awsome!......... A sound engineer here in Cyprus recommended them, rather than buy, AKG/Beyer Dynamics/Ect, which were a cheaper. Anyway, Cheers mate.
@studs1966 ah so it's constructed from wav loops primarily (or am I getting that wrong?). Impressive! Very natural sounding tracks!! If you condensed it down to a concise 2.5 minute form (f**k the 3 minute song stuff, that was 15 years ago before smartphones and 4G) then nobody 'not in the know' would know that it's not a live band.
Yes you are correct. I only use WAV. Even when I compose,(a track, or loops) on the iPad, I save to WAV....... &........ Ummmmmmm........ Ah!....... Ummmmm........
)...... But as I make Nu Disco/Deep House music(& Reggae Dub sometimes) I make the tracks, like when I use to buy Vinyl in the days of old(12" inch).... Also, I when I'm doing Remixes for a couple of Labels, recently, I think of the DJ's in the clubs. It's easier for them to mix a 12" inch(7mins or so) rather than 3-5 mins(blending the mix).... So please don't "Stone Me!" Or "Burn Me at the Stake!" For the length of the tracks.

UnfortunateLynn, most of my tracks are around 5 to 7 mins long(but I won't force you to listen to it all
It's actually, got me some production work, I'm lucky & glad to say..
I might be able to buy an Ice Cream out of it one day?.
Haha. Yea, I also tend to like overly long (jammin' yeah!!) or short (concise compositional form) tracks. A 'commercial length track' is usually purposed up from a 1.5 min track or down from an 8 min!
Its very easy to get carried away when you enjoy making music....... Also, it doesn't matter how you create it(I live instruments/Samples,etc) as long as a your having fun doing it, & you don't get sued by nicking other people work!.....
Very cool concept. A little fleshing out and tidying for sure. Love the background stuff going on behind "Even if you have loved only once...." . The quieter sung parts early on need some intensity/tightening up. But the sung part at the conclusion is spot on. Good intensity, growing throughout. Very enjoyable tune.
I like the vocalists timbre very much. Is that you?
The instrumentation fits the vocals nicely.
Good job.
Hi @teleb. Thanks. No I wished it was my voice. It is an Acapella I got from an internet site (FreeVocals.com).
@JohnnyGoodyear this one feels like a disjointed collage, all different parts superimposed together. I think the spoken word sections could do with some additional treatment, maybe some filtering, mixing them lower, something to make them feel more mysterious, more intriguing.
Where the spoken word is used to accentuate the singing in a call and response fashion it's terrific. And the sung parts are amazing, especially towards the end of the track where the build up is really powerful, and I really like the pitch-shifted background vocal and the sudden ending.
The track inhabits a strange place for me, I can't quite decide if it's the work of someone still experimenting with the art form, or a fully realised work by an artist who is making a definite statement. Maybe a mixture of both, if such a thing is possible, maybe you are close to understanding your intent, but not quite there. There's amazing potential here I think, that melody at the end is so catchy, but I can't quite decide if it really belongs in this track, or a different one.
I have done the singing for other people. You are using free vocals, from a site I never heard of before, that's cool.
But my voice is rather low, most people want this high pitch tenor stuff. I just can't do this.
With the track from someone else, if it triggers inspiration, it's a nice experience to create some vocals.
Have you any examples of your voice/singing I could listen to?
I send you a pm with a link to soundcklick. Man, that recording is so old, I never heard about SoundCloud back then... :-)
Thank you Mister Waugh. I appreciate the listen and the encouragement. It is certainly mostly a sketch, at least at the musical end.
Appreciate your note. Good thought on bringing in the payoff line earlier perhaps. One of the great bonuses of SOTMC is it gives you a chance to finish something and then really hear it and decide thereafter what the piece needs/where its balance may be askew etc. Thanks again.
Ah....thanks so much....well, that's the payoff line for me in the movie, which -oddly- I am going to see on the big screen this week with the fourteen year old (his first time, my hundred and first it feels like)....rites of passage and all
As for tweaks, I think I have come to understand/accept that technology allows me to sketch out ideas for songs, concepts etc., but not being a musician leaves me free not to worry about getting it just right. Wabi Sabi and all. Somewhere along the line I may get more talented musical hands than mine to paint in the colors properly 
Had a listen. Good mate. Sent you a pm back.
@JohnnyGoodyear
Blade Runner is probably my fave film.
I really do hope the new one doesn't taint it...
What a cool song!! Love how you build up the energy in the song. The switching between spoken words and singing is cool. Doesn't sound like it's not finished. I have nothing to critique, great job.
Absolutely agree with this. I like the 'sections' and understand/feel them in my mind as a part of the whole, but the glue is poor in places, or maybe better than glue, the overall sauce....I feel as though I have good characters in place in terms of the lines they will say, but could do with better make-up and wardrobe
Thank you for your encouragement. Means a lot. My instinct here is this is where -like so many others- I am not entirely a one man band. I have some things I do well, even if I'm not always fully aware of them and would probably end up with better final results if someone else was also doing what they did well with these bits. It's how bands or creative partnerships work I guess, when they do. I am not a musician (although I know what I like!), nor am I a producer (not patient enough, nor boffiney enough), but I do feel the big picture for specific concepts, possibilities, ideas....whatever. Onwards. Thanks again for your insight. Always on the money.
Sorry, this got lost in the enormous shuffle.
A very interesting thing which made me think of about three or four different styles/influences/sounds, none of which -in the end- I could fully ascribe this to. Which is good. Amazing how the ears want to do this though, want or need to say: Ah ha, yes, Petty, or Pixies, or even Susan Janet Ballion in places...
I really did like the false end/fade and then the last third. Clever and effective. I'd say you've been a quick study with Auria, interested to see what you come up with next...
Thanks @JohnnyGoodyear
I appreciate your kind words and I'm glad it's hard to pin down specific soundalikes. I do it myself and I think it's human nature to compare things to stuff that's gone before.
I love The Pixies. I don't mind Petty. Siouxsie takes me back to my Goth years. I assume you meant musically, as her unique voice would be hard to replicate!
Thanks for your detailed goodies. Could be a while as a ballad is next but yes, will give it a go and your knowledge is gold. Got a Shalamar/Sleafords vision for a 12 inch. And no it didn't sound conceited at all. You got it geezer and have fun getting more. Cheers again.
@theconnactic Only heard the Doobie Brothers once (on purpose) but mellowing is a slow and laborious process. Another band I missed but did enjoy the song I heard and will investigate further. Can I hear that vibe here? Carnival, party... yeah. I don't give you enough praise for your TUNES. Yes, your brilliant playing skills are forever complimented but not the dance factor. This is the most 'Pop' I've heard from your camp. Got a groove that would suit the combined voices of Rick Astley (love him) and the Patrick fella from the Doobies. Well, he sang with the Foo Fighters, which was truly dreadful, but your song would help the old man to shine. Good pop song.
@JeffChasteen Dark stuff. Intense and relentless. The panning, with the odd flutter from ear to ear (via over the TOP of the skull, not through it) is flawless. Wherever you're taking me, I have a machete and parachute. The drone drills deep down into dense bone without causing pain. You are a top surgeon sir and I like your methodical menace. I'm off to tear up a Lancaster Bomber. Thanks for the sledgehammer which will be returned after I have smashed my way out. But not yet......