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  • @Love3quency said:
    If i can have four instances of apesoft mood running with four instances of eos2 in AUM then there should be no reason why I could not run just two instances of pumphouse as AUV3

    Funny thing is that I can run one pumphouse AUV3 and one pumphouse standalone within AUM, but the preset manager of the non AUV3 version is not visible

    On a side note @Chris_Randall , where is the universal version of phosphor synth?

    @Love3quency the 2 instance limit is a problem only on the new 12.9 pros. My air2 can run 8+ instances with no issue. Even the 10.5 can do around 4+ instances. It seems to be something to do with the 120hz displays.

  • @gonekrazy3000 said:

    @Love3quency said:
    If i can have four instances of apesoft mood running with four instances of eos2 in AUM then there should be no reason why I could not run just two instances of pumphouse as AUV3

    Funny thing is that I can run one pumphouse AUV3 and one pumphouse standalone within AUM, but the preset manager of the non AUV3 version is not visible

    On a side note @Chris_Randall , where is the universal version of phosphor synth?

    @Love3quency the 2 instance limit is a problem only on the new 12.9 pros. My air2 can run 8+ instances with no issue. Even the 10.5 can do around 4+ instances. It seems to be something to do with the 120hz displays.

    I've just had 4 going in AUM barely touching the CPU, first gen iPad Pro 9.7.

    They did "crash" the first time I tried more than one but since then fine.

  • @TheVimFuego said:

    @gonekrazy3000 said:

    @Love3quency said:
    If i can have four instances of apesoft mood running with four instances of eos2 in AUM then there should be no reason why I could not run just two instances of pumphouse as AUV3

    Funny thing is that I can run one pumphouse AUV3 and one pumphouse standalone within AUM, but the preset manager of the non AUV3 version is not visible

    On a side note @Chris_Randall , where is the universal version of phosphor synth?

    @Love3quency the 2 instance limit is a problem only on the new 12.9 pros. My air2 can run 8+ instances with no issue. Even the 10.5 can do around 4+ instances. It seems to be something to do with the 120hz displays.

    I've just had 4 going in AUM barely touching the CPU, first gen iPad Pro 9.7.

    They did "crash" the first time I tried more than one but since then fine.

    It only applies to the A10 CPU 2017 pros. the a9 9.7 pro and 12.9 pro don't have this issue. Only the iPads with the new 120hz displays and a10 CPUs. The 10.5 pro has the problem to a lesser extent being able to run upto 4 instances but the 12.9 barely can run 2-3.

  • @gonekrazy3000 said:

    @TheVimFuego said:

    @gonekrazy3000 said:

    @Love3quency said:
    If i can have four instances of apesoft mood running with four instances of eos2 in AUM then there should be no reason why I could not run just two instances of pumphouse as AUV3

    Funny thing is that I can run one pumphouse AUV3 and one pumphouse standalone within AUM, but the preset manager of the non AUV3 version is not visible

    On a side note @Chris_Randall , where is the universal version of phosphor synth?

    @Love3quency the 2 instance limit is a problem only on the new 12.9 pros. My air2 can run 8+ instances with no issue. Even the 10.5 can do around 4+ instances. It seems to be something to do with the 120hz displays.

    I've just had 4 going in AUM barely touching the CPU, first gen iPad Pro 9.7.

    They did "crash" the first time I tried more than one but since then fine.

    It only applies to the A10 CPU 2017 pros. the a9 9.7 pro and 12.9 pro don't have this issue. Only the iPads with the new 120hz displays and a10 CPUs. The 10.5 pro has the problem to a lesser extent being able to run upto 4 instances but the 12.9 barely can run 2-3.

    My old iPad Pro 12.9 (2016) had this problem. I posted screenshorts sometime ago.

  • edited August 2017

    @Zen210507 said:

    Oh bollocks. I wish I'd known that.

    Always read the app notes! :smile:

    Here is the letter I got from Auria Pro after notifying them of my discovery:

    As for the instancing troubles, if you're not following the other threads; it isn't our fault, but is a flaw in the design of AUv3s that is butting heads with a flaw in the design of iPad Pros.

    Lots of people are aware of the problem; the Roli folks are working on it on our end, and I know for sure certain that the GarageBand team knows about it, and tickets have been opened in Radar (which is Apple's dev bug report mechanism). It's just a matter of time until it is solved.

    Note that the problem still exists in iOS 11 as of beta 6.

  • @Chris_Randall said:
    Note that the problem still exists in iOS 11 as of beta 6.

    Oh great.

    Yes, my fault for assuming that what is touted as the professional DAW for IOS, and the latest hardware would actually work with a modern app.

    Actually, I'm seriously underwhelmed by Apple, concerning my IPad Pro 10.5. It started turning itself off randomly, requiring a hard reset. Now it's losing any touch screen ability just before it does the above.

    Apparently, I am required to return it to Apple, where someone will examine it and decide if I'm telling true, or just fancy sending them my iPad for a laugh. I tried explaining my current, somewhat difficult circumstances with regard to health, and that the iPad is a lifeline. But that e-mail was completely ignored. Bastards.

    At the moment, I'm starting to wish I'd stuck with my Air 2 despite the lack of storage. At least that 'just worked' all of the time. I'm now far less likely to buy another new Apple product, and assuming I'm still around, would be more likely to replace or update via Hoxton Macs.

  • Germane to that, while I was waiting for my 12.9 at the Apple store yesterday, a lady that doesn't own a computer at all was trying to decide between a MacBook Air and an iPad Pro 12.9. The salesperson was giving her the usual Apple song-n-dance, and she turned to me and asked "you look like you know computers. What's the difference?"

    The discussion that ensued led me to an insight in to Apple marketing that I've largely ignored, since I'm on the other side of the fence and run PC, Mac, and iOS daily, and have to stay fairly current. If you're a blank slate and only have the ads to go on, something like the Macbook Air is the MOST ADVANCED COMPUTER EVER MADE, and you can model string theory and do amino acid folding on it. (You can't. In point of fact, the current totally-blown out 2017 MacBook Pro is not as fast as the mid-2015 model, and that, which I also own, isn't even in the same ballpark as my i7 Kaby Lake core desktop PC when it comes to raw power.)

    Interestingly, their marketing with respect to the iPad Pro, and specifically the 12.9, is that it is THE MOST ADVANCED COMPUTER EVER MADE, and it will blow the doors off of all other most advanced computers ever made. As anyone that visits this forum knows, that simply isn't the case, and some architecture fumbles have made it demonstrably less capable (in some contexts) than an iPad Air 2.

    Historically, Apple pick and choose what to tell consumers to put themselves in the best possible light. Think back to all the times Jobs touted the PPC architecture as THE MOST ADVANCED COMPUTER EVER MADE at WWDC keynotes, just look at these benchmarks!!! Until the day he got up on stage and unveiled Intel Macs, and showed all these charts about how Intel CPUs utterly destroyed PPC machines. (Something any developer had known for years.)

    All that meandering aside, I told her that if she just planned to look at Facebook and Twitter and YouTube, the iPad Pro was the better machine. I didn't elaborate beyond that.

    Speaking for myself, I have to buy the Latest And Greatest of everything for my work, and I currently own an iPad 1, iPad 2, iPad 3, iPad Mini 1, iPad Mini 2, iPad Mini Retina, iPad Air, 10.5, 12.9, iPhone 3, iPhone 4, iPhone 5, iPhone 5S, iPhone 6, iPhone 6+, iPhone 6S, and iPhone 7+, aside from the roughly 20 MacBooks of various flavors holding down a shelf in my garage, starting with a PowerBook 140C. With all that, my feeling is that the 10.5 and 12.9 are fine, and just need some sharp corners sanded down to be the best iPads available. Never forget that this always devolves to a couple folks in a conference room in Cupertino deciding to solve the problem. And the market-speak is just market-speak, and has nothing to do with the real world.

  • @Chris_Randall said:
    There's not much to understand in QuatroMod. I'll make a video tomorrow, but basically, it's either a chorus, flanger, diffusion chorus (sort of like the front end of a reverb, without the tail), and frequency shifter (which is almost entirely, but not completely, like a pitch shifter). You pick which one you want to use in any given instance. There's nothing fancy about it, except that the four effects are very good (or very different, depending on your point of view) examples of those sorts of effects.

    That will be great :)

  • @Chris_Randall said:
    Think back to all the times Jobs touted the PPC architecture as THE MOST ADVANCED COMPUTER EVER MADE at WWDC keynotes, just look at these benchmarks!!! Until the day he got up on stage and unveiled Intel Macs, and showed all these charts about how Intel CPUs utterly destroyed PPC machines. (Something any developer had known for years.)

    Towards the end of the PPC era the gap with Intel was ginormous, laughably so considering that the average PPC Mac cost considerably more than even a top-end PC. Nonetheless, when the switch to Intel was announced I knew several people who were really upset, and it really bought home how some can people wrap up their identity in a brand. After years of hating Intel it was a 1984-style about-face.

    But aside from the brand fanatics I think most Apple users, especially those who really need computing power (video editors, 3D artists, musicians etc) tend to have more of a love/hate relationship with Apple. They are usually as frustrating as they are helpful. They make great products but cripple them with their control-freakery Apple knows best.

    If you want to make music on a tablet, Apple is really the only game in town. They also (rightly) dominate the laptop/desktop music market, and video (although the trash can Mac Pro was a bit of a joke). In 3D though they only have the diehards, because of their insistence on using AMD video cards and under-speccing their machines.

  • @Chris_Randall said:
    Speaking for myself, I have to buy the Latest And Greatest of everything for my work, and I currently own an iPad 1, iPad 2, iPad 3, iPad Mini 1, iPad Mini 2, iPad Mini Retina, iPad Air, 10.5, 12.9, iPhone 3, iPhone 4, iPhone 5, iPhone 5S, iPhone 6, iPhone 6+, iPhone 6S, and iPhone 7+, aside from the roughly 20 MacBooks of various flavors holding down a shelf in my garage, >

    Jesus! You must make a truck load of money to afford all that, and have the majority lying idle..

  • @richardyot said:
    If you want to make music on a tablet, Apple is really the only game in town.

    >

    We know that, but do they?

  • @Chris_Randall said:
    Germane to that, while I was waiting for my 12.9 at the Apple store yesterday, a lady that doesn't own a computer at all was trying to decide between a MacBook Air and an iPad Pro 12.9. The salesperson was giving her the usual Apple song-n-dance, and she turned to me and asked "you look like you know computers. What's the difference?"

    The discussion that ensued led me to an insight in to Apple marketing that I've largely ignored, since I'm on the other side of the fence and run PC, Mac, and iOS daily, and have to stay fairly current. If you're a blank slate and only have the ads to go on, something like the Macbook Air is the MOST ADVANCED COMPUTER EVER MADE, and you can model string theory and do amino acid folding on it. (You can't. In point of fact, the current totally-blown out 2017 MacBook Pro is not as fast as the mid-2015 model, and that, which I also own, isn't even in the same ballpark as my i7 Kaby Lake core desktop PC when it comes to raw power.)

    Interestingly, their marketing with respect to the iPad Pro, and specifically the 12.9, is that it is THE MOST ADVANCED COMPUTER EVER MADE, and it will blow the doors off of all other most advanced computers ever made. As anyone that visits this forum knows, that simply isn't the case, and some architecture fumbles have made it demonstrably less capable (in some contexts) than an iPad Air 2.

    Historically, Apple pick and choose what to tell consumers to put themselves in the best possible light. Think back to all the times Jobs touted the PPC architecture as THE MOST ADVANCED COMPUTER EVER MADE at WWDC keynotes, just look at these benchmarks!!! Until the day he got up on stage and unveiled Intel Macs, and showed all these charts about how Intel CPUs utterly destroyed PPC machines. (Something any developer had known for years.)

    All that meandering aside, I told her that if she just planned to look at Facebook and Twitter and YouTube, the iPad Pro was the better machine. I didn't elaborate beyond that.

    Speaking for myself, I have to buy the Latest And Greatest of everything for my work, and I currently own an iPad 1, iPad 2, iPad 3, iPad Mini 1, iPad Mini 2, iPad Mini Retina, iPad Air, 10.5, 12.9, iPhone 3, iPhone 4, iPhone 5, iPhone 5S, iPhone 6, iPhone 6+, iPhone 6S, and iPhone 7+, aside from the roughly 20 MacBooks of various flavors holding down a shelf in my garage, starting with a PowerBook 140C. With all that, my feeling is that the 10.5 and 12.9 are fine, and just need some sharp corners sanded down to be the best iPads available. Never forget that this always devolves to a couple folks in a conference room in Cupertino deciding to solve the problem. And the market-speak is just market-speak, and has nothing to do with the real world.

    Like your apps and like your posts too. Good on enthusiastic non-bollocks. Very welcome.

  • @JohnnyGoodyear said:

    @Chris_Randall said:
    Germane to that, while I was waiting for my 12.9 at the Apple store yesterday, a lady that doesn't own a computer at all was trying to decide between a MacBook Air and an iPad Pro 12.9. The salesperson was giving her the usual Apple song-n-dance, and she turned to me and asked "you look like you know computers. What's the difference?"

    The discussion that ensued led me to an insight in to Apple marketing that I've largely ignored, since I'm on the other side of the fence and run PC, Mac, and iOS daily, and have to stay fairly current. If you're a blank slate and only have the ads to go on, something like the Macbook Air is the MOST ADVANCED COMPUTER EVER MADE, and you can model string theory and do amino acid folding on it. (You can't. In point of fact, the current totally-blown out 2017 MacBook Pro is not as fast as the mid-2015 model, and that, which I also own, isn't even in the same ballpark as my i7 Kaby Lake core desktop PC when it comes to raw power.)

    Interestingly, their marketing with respect to the iPad Pro, and specifically the 12.9, is that it is THE MOST ADVANCED COMPUTER EVER MADE, and it will blow the doors off of all other most advanced computers ever made. As anyone that visits this forum knows, that simply isn't the case, and some architecture fumbles have made it demonstrably less capable (in some contexts) than an iPad Air 2.

    Historically, Apple pick and choose what to tell consumers to put themselves in the best possible light. Think back to all the times Jobs touted the PPC architecture as THE MOST ADVANCED COMPUTER EVER MADE at WWDC keynotes, just look at these benchmarks!!! Until the day he got up on stage and unveiled Intel Macs, and showed all these charts about how Intel CPUs utterly destroyed PPC machines. (Something any developer had known for years.)

    All that meandering aside, I told her that if she just planned to look at Facebook and Twitter and YouTube, the iPad Pro was the better machine. I didn't elaborate beyond that.

    Speaking for myself, I have to buy the Latest And Greatest of everything for my work, and I currently own an iPad 1, iPad 2, iPad 3, iPad Mini 1, iPad Mini 2, iPad Mini Retina, iPad Air, 10.5, 12.9, iPhone 3, iPhone 4, iPhone 5, iPhone 5S, iPhone 6, iPhone 6+, iPhone 6S, and iPhone 7+, aside from the roughly 20 MacBooks of various flavors holding down a shelf in my garage, starting with a PowerBook 140C. With all that, my feeling is that the 10.5 and 12.9 are fine, and just need some sharp corners sanded down to be the best iPads available. Never forget that this always devolves to a couple folks in a conference room in Cupertino deciding to solve the problem. And the market-speak is just market-speak, and has nothing to do with the real world.

    Like your apps and like your posts too. Good on enthusiastic non-bollocks. Very welcome.

    Yeh. Please don't change. B)

  • wimwim
    edited August 2017

    @Chris_Randall said:

    All that meandering aside, I told her that if she just planned to look at Facebook and Twitter and YouTube, the iPad Pro was the better machine. I didn't elaborate beyond that.

    Bingo!

    The best domestic purchase I ever made was to get my wife an iPad. It seemed like every single night I would come home after a day of solving IT problems to a lengthy session of tech support for my frustrated and angry wife. She's one of those people that get personally offended when a computer doesn't work the way they think it should. It seems like computers do hold a grudge against people like her, because she would have some of the oddest problems imaginable all the time. Of course by the end of the day my patience is pretty thin too.

    I bought her an iPad one Christmas and ... instant domestic peace. She can shop, be entertained, socialize, and look for new and creative ways to spend our money with almost no intervention from me. Life is good now! B)

  • @wim said:
    and look for new and creative ways to spend our money

    Music apps win this race, surely... :)

  • @wim This is more or less the same for me but for me it was a computer for my parents. Apple represent my retirement from IT Support game for them and that is pure magic.
    Big picture, Apple can do little wrong in my eyes.

  • @richardyot said:

    @wim said:
    and look for new and creative ways to spend our money

    Music apps win this race, surely... :)

    Probably. I'm afraid to look. :#

  • @wim said:

    @richardyot said:

    @wim said:
    and look for new and creative ways to spend our money

    Music apps win this race, surely... :)

    Probably. I'm afraid to look. :#

  • @wim said:

    @Chris_Randall said:

    All that meandering aside, I told her that if she just planned to look at Facebook and Twitter and YouTube, the iPad Pro was the better machine. I didn't elaborate beyond that.

    Bingo!

    The best domestic purchase I ever made was to get my wife an iPad. It seemed like every single night I would come home after a day of solving IT problems to a lengthy session of tech support for my frustrated and angry wife. She's one of those people that get personally offended when a computer doesn't work the way they think it should. It seems like computers do hold a grudge against people like her, because she would have some of the oddest problems imaginable all the time. Of course by the end of the day my patience is pretty thin too.

    I bought her an iPad one Christmas and ... instant domestic peace. She can shop, be entertained, socialize, and look for new and creative ways to spend our money with almost no intervention from me. Life is good now! B)

    The curse is real. Five years ago, my wife and I built near-identical PCs. Hers ran every game she threw at it no problem through every Windows update and mine crumbled regularly for four years. Did you know that they changed the blue screen in Windows 8? I learned the hard way.

    Hers is still running games at 60fps, I'm playing iPad games, the house is peaceful.

  • @richardyot said:

    If you want to make music on a tablet, Apple is really the only game in town.

    Well, I don't know about that. I also have a Surface Pro, and BitWig Studio on that is easily the most powerful tablet-savvy mobile studio there is. I know I'm in the Land Of True Believers here, but that combination is laughably powerful, and far beyond what is available in iOS. You can use any VST plugin, as well, and just copy your projects right to a desktop machine (either Mac or PC) and continue working.

    I don't personally use it, because the Surface Pro is a bit of a dick otherwise, and I never really need the combo, but I just thought I'd throw that out there. Broad declaratives in this context are maybe unwarranted.

  • @wim Pretty much a salvation from solving tech woes for me too. I rarely do any in depth tech troubleshooting at home these days.

    When you do it as a 9 to 5(ish) the last thing you need is more after hours.

    The kid has an iPad supplied by the school, not one drama. The wife uses either mine or an Android tablet (less "just works" but fine enough).

    I haven't fired the laptop up for musical needs in years. Much to like despite the quirks (I still avoid iTunes at all costs).

  • @Chris_Randall said:
    Well, I don't know about that. I also have a Surface Pro, and BitWig Studio on that is easily the most powerful tablet-savvy mobile studio there is. I know I'm in the Land Of True Believers here, but that combination is laughably powerful, and far beyond what is available in iOS.

    >

    Yet you don't use it. ;)

    As a super clever chap, there is one app/ program you may be able to invent that many here who, like you, have a foot in all three camps, would buy.

    An IOS emulator for Windows and Mac. Yes, I know various means already exist to marry up these systems, after a fashion, but none of them are really what is needed.

    Maybe Apple prevent this for one reason or another, but I'd love an independent developer, or a company such as Parallels, to make something that effectively allowed me to transfer my IOS apps into a Coherence Mode type of thing which ran IOS stuff next to Logic Pro X, or other desktop based music making tools. So, any chance?

  • @Zen210507 said:

    @Chris_Randall said:
    Well, I don't know about that. I also have a Surface Pro, and BitWig Studio on that is easily the most powerful tablet-savvy mobile studio there is. I know I'm in the Land Of True Believers here, but that combination is laughably powerful, and far beyond what is available in iOS.

    >

    Yet you don't use it. ;)

    As a super clever chap, there is one app/ program you may be able to invent that many here who, like you, have a foot in all three camps, would buy.

    An IOS emulator for Windows and Mac. Yes, I know various means already exist to marry up these systems, after a fashion, but none of them are really what is needed.

    Maybe Apple prevent this for one reason or another, but I'd love an independent developer, or a company such as Parallels, to make something that effectively allowed me to transfer my IOS apps into a Coherence Mode type of thing which ran IOS stuff next to Logic Pro X, or other desktop based music making tools. So, any chance?

    Or you could do what I do and get an Ica4+. I stream up to 16 channels of audio directly into ableton. My iPad is next to my monitor so ableton and Aum are happy next to each other.

  • edited August 2017

    @Chris_Randall said:

    @richardyot said:

    If you want to make music on a tablet, Apple is really the only game in town.

    Well, I don't know about that. I also have a Surface Pro, and BitWig Studio on that is easily the most powerful tablet-savvy mobile studio there is. I know I'm in the Land Of True Believers here, but that combination is laughably powerful, and far beyond what is available in iOS. You can use any VST plugin, as well, and just copy your projects right to a desktop machine (either Mac or PC) and continue working.

    I don't personally use it, because the Surface Pro is a bit of a dick otherwise, and I never really need the combo, but I just thought I'd throw that out there. Broad declaratives in this context are maybe unwarranted.

    I have a Surface Book (I'm an illustrator so I use it for freelancing), I toyed with the idea of getting some music software for it but it didn't really seem worth it. With the exception of Bitwig the main gripe most users seem to have is that very few apps are actually optimised for touch, so while you do arguably have more powerful software, it's not that great to use as a touch-based device.

    Personally I'm not among The True Believers since my 3 computers all run Windows :) But generally on this forum I don't think people are really Apple fanatics (there's maybe a couple), most of us have a more pragmatic and sceptical view of them. Love/hate.

  • @gonekrazy3000 said:
    Or you could do what I do and get an Ica4+. I stream up to 16 channels of audio directly into ableton. My iPad is next to my monitor so ableton and Aum are happy next to each other.

    >

    Oh, I have hardware to link my iPad up to my Mac or PC. I just want that emulation option. :)

  • edited August 2017

    @richardyot said:
    Personally I'm not among The True Believers since my 3 computers all run Windows :) But generally on this forum I don't think people are really Apple fanatics (there's maybe a couple), most of us have a more pragmatic and sceptical view of them. Love/hate.

    >

    Indeed.

    Microsoft has always been an Apple wanna be, yet they can't even manage to make a credible browser. Or, for that matter buy one from those who can. MS has successfully messed up its own flagship products, and only keeps going because it appeals to those who can't or won't pay Apple prices.

    Apple, could easily take a huge chunk out of the MS OS market and possibly bury Windows, by promoting existing software that allows Windows programs to run alongside Mac programs, in a far safer environment. But as the worlds richest tech company, they just don't want the hassle.

    Both companies could change the world, either separately or jointly. But all either really give a damn about is making ever greater profits. And what is this obscene wealth being used to achieve? Nothing that benefits us. :s

  • @iamspoon said:
    Looking forward to this one! (I'd like to see a desktop version too.)
    Nothing to do with your product but I was a bit gutted to find out that you can't stack effects on a Cubasis Send channel...

    I was hoping to create a mutant sidechain reverb combo that I've imagined for years but never been able to achieve within my desktop version of Cubase (Elements).

    @LFS Hi Lars, any chance of this feature making it into Cubasis?

    Hi iamspoon,

    On our list, but might take some time...

    Best,
    Lars

  • edited August 2017

    @Zen210507 said:

    @richardyot said:
    Personally I'm not among The True Believers since my 3 computers all run Windows :) But generally on this forum I don't think people are really Apple fanatics (there's maybe a couple), most of us have a more pragmatic and sceptical view of them. Love/hate.

    >

    Indeed.

    Microsoft has always been an Apple wanna be, yet they can't even manage to make a credible browser. Or, for that matter buy one from those who can. MS has successfully messed up its own flagship products, and only keeps going because it appeals to those who can't or won't pay Apple prices.

    Apple, could easily take a huge chunk out of the MS OS market and possibly bury Windows, by promoting existing software that allows Windows programs to run alongside Mac programs, in a far safer environment. But as the worlds richest tech company, they just don't want the hassle.

    Both companies could change the world, either separately or jointly. But all either really give a damn about is making ever greater profits. And what is this obscene wealth being used to achieve? Nothing that benefits us. :s

    its nothing to do with not paying apple prices for me imho. and regarding the browser i can't stand either Safari nor Internet explorer. forever a chrome user on both PC/MAC. i just prefer windows cause i can tear it to pieces and customize it as much as i want to make it run fantastically for audio. no anxiliarry processes using up cpu or memory for no reason. A good custom built rig in terms of performance in a daw its pretty negligible whether you run it on Mac or Windows at this point. specially since technically its pretty much the same hardware. intel processors, samsung ssd's etc... it was a major difference when apple used to use IBM processors but not anymore.

    I've built a few Hackintoshes and owned a few macs so i know from experience. My current rig is actually a hackintosh i built to emulate a 2014 mac Pro desktop. was even running max osx on it till i got bored and made it windows only lol.

  • edited August 2017

    @Zen210507 said:
    MS has successfully messed up its own flagship products, and only keeps going because it appeals to those who can't or won't pay Apple prices.

    It's not really like that from where I'm sitting. The Surface Book is just as nice a machine as a Macbook Pro for instance. Personally I use Windows because the software I depend on for my livelihood simply runs a hell of a lot better on a PC than it does on the Mac. 3D on a Mac is crap, slow as molasses. A shame actually because if I could justify buying some kind of Mac for work I would then also be able to get my hands Logic, which would be great.

  • edited August 2017

    @richardyot said:

    @Zen210507 said:

    A shame actually because if I could justify buying some kind of Mac for work I would then also be able to get my hands Logic, which would be great.

    Where are you in the world? If UK, or close, you could do what I did and get a refurbed Mac Mini from Hoxton Macs. I got mine with new 512gb SSD, 16gb RAM and Quad Core CPU (better than in current models) for a lot less than Apple charge. Loaded with Logic Pro X, Garage Band and Kontact. Still going strong!

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