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One reason for no mouse has been that apple wants to keep ipad and macbooks different. I think its silly and hopefully ipad sales going down year after year will convince them to change their mentality about this.
Attaching a mouse to an iPad would turn it into an abomination. Please don’t go there. Touch only, no mixing of incompatible control paradigms
Yes. That would be strange. That would be like you try to replace a laptop with a smaller laptop.
Even the touch bar on macbooks makes more sense as mouse and keyboard to iPads.
yes, a mouse would be complete nonsense - but you can fake mouse-wheel's essentials with (for example) 2-finger swipes up/down (horizontal zoom) and left/right for scrolling the waveform display.
Some editors have a multi-selection mode that replaces the shift click, etc.
It's just a point of well considered creativity
My biggest complain in current zoom mode is that obviously NOBODY is capable to keep the current point of interest centerted on screen.
Referring to old Bias Peak on Mac they zoomed just regularly until the selected point entered the outer third of the screen and from then on a dynamic offset (based on scale) was added to keep the point centered. That calculation is just a simple equation.
It may read as some minor issue, but in fact that feature reduces the effective way of mouse travel for at least 75% and will be equally effective for swipes on the tablet's small screen estate.
RAM is CPU’s lil forgotten cousin.
Not sure...if developers have to start to support it....
I don't have the technical knowledge to answer the question. Would I edit Logic projects on an iPad? Probably not. Screen size is too small. File system doesn't cut it. I'm happy if Apple just continues with GarageBand on iOS. There are many more functions of Logic that could make their way into GB that I don't think would require higher hardware performance, and that would be welcomed. I like the tablet as a sketchpad and MIDI/audio output and control surface to Logic. Auria Pro, Cubasis, GB, MTS, etc. all provide DAW functions I use for that.
This.
Geez, when are people gonna catch on
I just really dont see at all how a mouse could make an Ipad any better, it has a multi touch screen. So instead of just touching and launching an app you want to reach for your mouse and click on an app to launch it? Or click on a folder, then the app? Instead of swiping up with your hand youd rather use a mouse to scroll up or down? I dont even use a mouse with my Macbook Pro unless Im using a 3d app like Cinema 4d.
I’m good with a stylus if I must.
We used to do a lot with <4GB just a few years back, and that was with all the Windows/OSX overheads. The new iPad Pros have 4GB of RAM, and fast SSDs (400MB/s write, 1GB/s read).
So it’s impossible?
Are you sure? Anandtech and others found that the OG iPad Pro pushed constantly hard enough to drain the battery in 3.5 hours only measured <20% performance drop. It's very different from other mobile devices (phones) which typically throttle as much as -50% to -60% quite quickly (for battery preservation as much as for thermal reasons).
Ah, the good old days...
CPU and RAM are not the limitation. Even an ipad 4 could handle the power that the former Logic Platinum 5 required, that was a Pentium 300MHz with 128MB of RAM as a minimum. And even the old Logic Pro 5 was much closer to LPX (in power and functionality) than to Garageband as it is today.
A few resource-hungry plugins like Sculpture would require newer iPad models of course.
Building a Kontakt or EXS24 alike sampler would be possible too, because we've seen that disk streaming can work very well on iOS since the iPad 1.
I agree that the main work to do would be a complete redesign of most parts of the user interface. Only then people will consider switching more and more to the iPad, if - and only if - Apple also opens up connectivity and data exchange options tremendously, which, unfortunately, today it seems to be the opposite that's happening.
I'm a big fan of the magic trackpad. There have been many times that I wished I could use it with the 12.9 iPad Pro. It would make exact edits much easier. Plus you could have the iPad vertical and use the trackpad very comfortably flat on the table. Makes a lot of sense to me. But there would have to be a cursor in that mode, of course.
I would think they should just put a setting for that in the assistive touch area. I don't think app developers would have to worry about having to make their apps compatible. That should be baked into the OS. And anybody that doesn't want to use it, you don't have to, same as you don't have to use the pencil or external keyboard if you don't want to. Yes, it shouldn't be required as the only way to be able to use certain apps but I'm sure it would help with a lot of the more cramped GUIs and it would probably make it possible to use something like an iOS port of logic, live or reason without it being optimised for touch really. Remember Rebirth? Or how about iMS20 or even Auria or Layr. The trackpad could be very helpful for these kind of apps IMHO. And for anything else that needs very high accuracy in positioning things, for example also in 3D or 2D design apps, it would be so much easier using the trackpad than using fingers or even the pencil. So overall for me this is a very loud and clear YES PLEASE for mouse support on iOS.
There is no way to know and comparing geekbench marks is not a useful indicator. Could it open a ported version of Logic? Probably. Could it run Logic with 10 tracks running alchemy synths, midi effects, audio effects etc? Not to a satisfactory level
A10x is a 6 core cpu but it's not designed to utilise all 6 cores at once. 3 of them are designed to be energy saving and 3 of them to be high performance. Then you have the heat issue (few things destroy processors and batteries faster than heat), the lack of ram etc.
Also, Apple would have to rewrite both the ui and what ever parts of it using instructions specific to x86. Effectively, they would have to recode the entire thing
Just for fun, i made a new project in Logic Pro X on my imac 2015. A drummer track and a simple chordrythm using the default Alchemy patch. 4 bars. It used 43% cpu and 550mb ram
If you want multi-touch for Logic just use the Logic remote app.
FWIW, I don’t see Apple adding mouse functionality to iOS. A physical keyboard makes sense for a number of reasons, but it seems very messy to incorporate a system screen pointer as an option, and kind of a step backwards. How many iOS users want a mouse? I’d guess a tiny minority. With a non-touch surface, I prefer a mouse to a trackpad for many kinds of editing, but the Apple Pencil on an iPad is great. I think that’s what Apple will be developing, and that it’s the most natural and precise input device for a touch screen.
a mouse has only 2 advantages in audio editing:
the tip of the onscreen pointer doesn't cover a significant part of the waveform
the mouse-wheel (practically non-existent in MacOS) can be used to zoom in/out
both features can be implemented in IOS DAW apps in multiple ways...
yes Max, where are they ?
and another yes - noone made it work yet in IOS audio editing
'functionality' seems to get not much coverage
workflows results from functionality, not feature collections
Back in 2010.. I was running cubase 5 and fl studio 9 together on a compaq laptop win xp https://www.ebay.com/i/302450639655 . I did upgrade it it to 2 gab of ram tho. I wholeheartedly believe the new iPads are more than capable then what they are being used for now.