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Something new from Yonac KAULDRON SYNTH

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  • It's like 1/8th of Kaspar with a more retro-styled UI :)

  • Seems this is the reason moog made model 15 cheap for a bit lol

    Now... do I really need a modular!

    That being said- certain devs can take note that even the most complex designed synths can work well on an iPhone lol

  • One more VA?
    :bored:

  • edited October 2017

    I'll pretty much buy yonac stuff on principle since I like their apps and business model. I dont ever feel like they're cash grabbing, all their apps except kaspar/Galileo are universal and all their apps are optimized really well. I love apps I can use in a chain with other apps live.

    I do wish they'd add to tonestack a bit (its pretty much got everything already. I'm just obsessed with it).

    This new synth sounds super analoge and a bit 80s retro. Not sure how I feel yet but I'm interested for sure. Definitely has a minimoog feel to it as well

  • There’s only so many copies of a minimoog that you need, and I think I have more than enough.

  • I think it will at least be able to do audio-rate modulation using OSC3 as a modulation source...

  • @Samu said:
    I think it will at least be able to do audio-rate modulation using OSC3 as a modulation source...

    Maybe but that doesn't mean it updates really at audio rate.
    We will see. So far Model 15 and Zeeon are the only ones here.
    I wish they would left FX out in the demo. It doesn't sound good.
    But since there isn't a really good Minimoog emulation for iOS yet it might should get a chance.
    But in general a lot iOS synths in the last few months sounds so similar but without nailing the analog feel.....yeah, beside Zeeon.

  • @Cib said:

    @Samu said:
    I think it will at least be able to do audio-rate modulation using OSC3 as a modulation source...

    Maybe but that doesn't mean it updates really at audio rate.
    We will see. So far Model 15 and Zeeon are the only ones here.
    I wish they would left FX out in the demo. It doesn't sound good.
    But since there isn't a really good Minimoog emulation for iOS yet it might should get a chance.
    But in general a lot iOS synths in the last few months sounds so similar but without nailing the analog feel.....yeah, beside Zeeon.

    Zeeon is cool and I have a soft spot for iMono/Poly as well...

  • Yes I will buy it no doubt. Will I use it? Who knows (shrugs)

    As for great synths on iOS, I’m curious why many only talk about analog emulations? Don’t you guys use any digital in your tunes? I love me some PPG and PhaseMaker!

  • @Fruitbat1919 said:
    Yes I will buy it no doubt. Will I use it? Who knows (shrugs)

    As for great synths on iOS, I’m curious why many only talk about analog emulations? Don’t you guys use any digital in your tunes? I love me some PPG and PhaseMaker!

    AddictivePro always surprises me too :)

  • edited October 2017

    What's so special about audio rate modulation? It's not hard to do. It just needs lots of oversampling. Which means leaving out older/slower devices. So it's more a strategic issue (do I want to exclude everything but the latest ipads?) than a complexity issue.

    But anyway, your list is not complete. Ripplemaker does audio-rate modulation, as do Audulus and Zmors I believe. In fact, I'd be suprised if there's a modular out there that doesn't let you do audio rate modulation :)

  • @brambos said:
    What's so special about audio rate modulation? It's not hard to do. It just needs lots of oversampling. Which means leaving out older/slower devices. So it's more a strategic issue (do I want to exclude everything but the latest ipads?) than a complexity issue.

    But anyway, your list is not complete. Ripplemaker does audio-rate modulation, as do Audulus and Zmors I believe. In fact, I'd be suprised if there's a modular out there that doesn't let you do audio rate modulation :)

    Speaking of ripplemaker. I was curious. Does ios11 magically let you send CV between au instances now ? Just curious.

  • @brambos said:
    What's so special about audio rate modulation? It's not hard to do. It just needs lots of oversampling.

    and it's the least feature to convince someone based on sound - more of a nerdy thing o:)

  • Hmm... another VA Synthi? I wish more a real good string machine, like GForce VSM

  • @brambos said:
    What's so special about audio rate modulation? It's not hard to do. It just needs lots of oversampling. Which means leaving out older/slower devices. So it's more a strategic issue (do I want to exclude everything but the latest ipads?) than a complexity issue.

    But anyway, your list is not complete. Ripplemaker does audio-rate modulation, as do Audulus and Zmors I believe. In fact, I'd be suprised if there's a modular out there that doesn't let you do audio rate modulation :)

    There is still a different how synths handle it and how it responds to real time tweaking.
    Ripple Maker is nice (i bought it).
    Audulus, Ripple Maker and Zmors might do it but if i compare (yes i shoudn´t do) it to other modulars they loose in this area.
    What´s special? Maybe nothing? Then yes, developers might won´t just leave out older devices. Fine but some people maybe want more.
    What´s special with all the same sounding synths....nothing but still they make sense for some people :#
    I don´t think just oversample everything to death is also not the only thing you should do to get it right.
    I have synth which sound better even when i turn oversampling off like some other which let me do 256X oversampling if i wanted (of course that is totally not needed).

  • @Telefunky said:

    @brambos said:
    What's so special about audio rate modulation? It's not hard to do. It just needs lots of oversampling.

    and it's the least feature to convince someone based on sound - more of a nerdy thing o:)

    Maybe but it´s the great part of the analog/vintage emulations. It can create some wonderful harmonics and also is great for crazy FX you can´t do with other things. But yeah, it might not for the consumer.

  • Also when it´s so easy i wonder why developers then don´t let me just customize the oversampling myself or offering different quality settings so that you can use it on older devices but the latest ones could take advantage of the better cpu´s etc.

  • @Cib said:
    Also when it´s so easy i wonder why developers then don´t let me just customize the oversampling myself

    Because making it optional has deeper implications.. e.g. you would have to make LFO ranges dependent on the current oversampling setting etc. But let's not further derail the thread.

  • edited October 2017

    @brambos said:

    @Cib said:
    Also when it´s so easy i wonder why developers then don´t let me just customize the oversampling myself

    Because making it optional has deeper implications.. e.g. you would have to make LFO ranges dependent on the current oversampling setting etc. But let's not further derail the thread.

    So then it´s not so easy like you said.....whatever. Happy Halloween!

  • @Cib said:

    @brambos said:

    @Cib said:
    Also when it´s so easy i wonder why developers then don´t let me just customize the oversampling myself

    Because making it optional has deeper implications.. e.g. you would have to make LFO ranges dependent on the current oversampling setting etc. But let's not further derail the thread.

    So then it´s not so easy like you said....

    It is, but you were talking about making it configurable, which introduces issues.

  • @brambos said:

    @Cib said:

    @brambos said:

    @Cib said:
    Also when it´s so easy i wonder why developers then don´t let me just customize the oversampling myself

    Because making it optional has deeper implications.. e.g. you would have to make LFO ranges dependent on the current oversampling setting etc. But let's not further derail the thread.

    So then it´s not so easy like you said....

    It is, but you were talking about making it configurable, which introduces issues.

    O.k. but that are the parts where the awesome synths spread from the ones we have million from :)
    But yeah, off topic.
    I mean i still buy all this stuff and hope someday iOS developers take it more serious...... >:)

  • @Samu said:
    I think it will at least be able to do audio-rate modulation using OSC3 as a modulation source...

    This is my major pain point with iMini. Ugh - one feature would make that Synth infinitely more playable...

    I love Yonac as a company and I own all their apps, but I'm skeptical of this as I just don't like the sound of Magellan and Kaspar. Brice described Kaspar as "like listening to voicemails from my other synths" and I feel the same. I want to pick this up on principle to support the Yonac team but I dunno.

    Doug? Got a demo for us skeptics yet?

  • @brambos said:
    What's so special about audio rate modulation? It's not hard to do. It just needs lots of oversampling. Which means leaving out older/slower devices. So it's more a strategic issue (do I want to exclude everything but the latest ipads?) than a complexity issue.

    Actually if you use PolyBleps oscillators you need a lot less oversampling. Though it's still going to exclude some devices for sure.

  • The audio quality of that video was horrendously static filled. I had to go watch a different video to be sure it was not my speakers.

  • @Tritonman said:
    The audio quality of that video was horrendously static filled. I had to go watch a different video to be sure it was not my speakers.

    It is Halloween !

  • I have to admit that I jumped on Kaspar pretty quickly, but don't use it at all. Beyond the mixed reviews of the sound, a big part of my avoidance is the color used in the UI. I am really tired of apps that look like a bumble bee - it's a knife to the eye. Is there any explanation of the fascination for yellow on black? I realize that this may seem incredibly trivial to some (most?), but it does have an effect on me. I find Magellan to be a visual abomination as well for different reasons.

    Sorry to further derail this thread...

  • christ! maybe you should stick to painting your nails.

  • @mrcanister said:
    christ! maybe you should stick to painting your nails.

    Pretty funny. I am a visual artist/painter, so that might explain my visual sensitivities. Are you saying that the look of an app has absolutely no bearing on how much you use it? Curious...

  • Ugly video, but the synth sounds pretty beefy, and I like the UI.

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