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GarageBand Is Pretty Good, You Know?

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  • @AnimalHeadSpirit said:

    @ipadthai said:
    It's a pretty good app but I hate having to be in my garage to use it.

    Maybe they should rebrand it as bedroom band. Seems to be the new normal :) Besides, my garage is too drafty and cold this time of year.

    LapBand :)

  • @RajahP said:

    @Reid said:
    I don't know how all of you do it, but the way I've been using it is to take some music I've crated in another app, like Blocs Wave.

    Output wav files to Audioshare.
    Click the loops icon and then select audio files.
    Click" "Browse items from the Files App"
    And then I can drag any files files from Audioshare directly into the project.
    At this point I can add drums or bass or Japanese instruments or whatever I want.
    The thing I like to do is to use the autoplay feature in the "smart instruments" and then go into midi edit and change them.

    When I'm done I share the new tracks I've made in GB one by one by into audioshare.
    From there I can work with the whole deal in Auria or on my computer.

    How about Midi?

    No, you can only drag audio files into GB. I tried. :'(

  • It's quite funny it's called 'Garage Band' and still doesn't have any 'Garage Templates' ;)

  • edited November 2017

    @Trueyorky said:

    @AnimalHeadSpirit said:

    @ipadthai said:
    It's a pretty good app but I hate having to be in my garage to use it.

    Maybe they should rebrand it as bedroom band. Seems to be the new normal :) Besides, my garage is too drafty and cold this time of year.

    LapBand :)

    ForeverAloneBand

    NotEvenMyCatLikeMyMusicBand

    PleaseSubscribeToMyYouTubeChannelBand

    ok i'll stop

  • @Reid said:

    @RajahP said:

    @Reid said:
    I don't know how all of you do it, but the way I've been using it is to take some music I've crated in another app, like Blocs Wave.

    Output wav files to Audioshare.
    Click the loops icon and then select audio files.
    Click" "Browse items from the Files App"
    And then I can drag any files files from Audioshare directly into the project.
    At this point I can add drums or bass or Japanese instruments or whatever I want.
    The thing I like to do is to use the autoplay feature in the "smart instruments" and then go into midi edit and change them.

    When I'm done I share the new tracks I've made in GB one by one by into audioshare.
    From there I can work with the whole deal in Auria or on my computer.

    How about Midi?

    No, you can only drag audio files into GB. I tried. :'(

    That's what I thought.... Hopefully in a future update...

  • edited November 2017

    @MusicMan4Christ said:
    The auto play feature in the smart instruments, how do you edit the midi afterwards?

    @Reid said:
    I don't know how all of you do it, but the way I've been using it is to take some music I've crated in another app, like Blocs Wave.

    Output wav files to Audioshare.
    Click the loops icon and then select audio files.
    Click" "Browse items from the Files App"
    And then I can drag any files files from Audioshare directly into the project.
    At this point I can add drums or bass or Japanese instruments or whatever I want.
    The thing I like to do is to use the autoplay feature in the "smart instruments" and then go into midi edit and change them.

    When I'm done I share the new tracks I've made in GB one by one by into audioshare.
    From there I can work with the whole deal in Auria or on my computer.

    Here's what I've learned about MIDI editing in GB so far:

    On your timeline, tap the track twice, You'll get a number of options: cut, copy, delete, loop, split, edit, rename and settings (velocity, looping, quantization, speed, reverse)

    Tap "edit" You'll see a midi grid. It's easy to drag notes around or make them longer or shorter. Spreading your thumb and forefinger you can make the grid bigger, both side to side and top to bottom. If you hold your finger down on the pen button on the top left, you can draw in new notes. They'll be the length of the last note you made. If you slide it into the lock area, you don't have to hold it down. There's an "undo" icon to the right of the pen.

    If you tap twice on a note you have the option to cut, copy, delete, or change velocity. The velocity slider is very cool, you can hear the loudness change as you slide it.

    For some instruments there are more options. With the strings for example, you can change the instruments (violin, 2nd violin, viola, cello, bass) and articulations (legato, staccato or pizzicato) and with the Guzheng you have a choice of 6 articulations (plucked, picked, Tremolo, Harmonic, Glissando Picked, and Glissando Fingers) There's so much you can easily do, beyond using their autoplay stuff. But the autoplay stuff is such a great start!

    If you tap the screen twice where there's no note, you can "select all. If you hold your finger down, a box will appear to let you select more than one note. (Thank you @lovadamusic & @teleb for this)

    The notes are clearly marked on the left and they sound if you touch them. If your instrument is a keyboard, you'll see a piano on the left, a stringed instrument it will be a fretboard.

    When you're finished, click "Done" on the upper right.

    As MIDI editors go, it's not at all bad.

  • @Reid These tips are awesome, very clear and well-written. More, please! B)

  • edited November 2017

    The piano-roll in GarageBand is pretty good apart from missing any kind of controller editing.
    Sustain Pedal can be drawn and 'articulation' from some instruments can be modified.

    Considering all parameters of the touch-instruments can be automated and recorded it would be super sweet to be at least able to edit them.(Pitch-Bend and Mod-Wheel would be a good start).

    The 'DJ FX' can also be recorded and automated but once again no detailed editing :(

  • @Samu Your tips are awesome as well, and I am sure everyone knows that already. Just don't want it to seem like you are being taken for granted. :)

  • @MusicMan4Christ said:
    Sweet, thanks!
    Can one use Navichord to send midi song chord progressions into GB?

    I think the only thing you can do is to use Navichord to record a MIDI song progression with your instrument of choice, and record it. Send the wav file to GB.

  • @CracklePot said:
    @Samu Your tips are awesome as well, and I am sure everyone knows that already. Just don't want it to seem like you are being taken for granted. :)

    You're welcome, just doing my best to keep the positive community spirit alive!

    I've tried my best to shake of the negativity floating around and actually enjoy what we've got instead of focusing all the energy on what we don't have :)

  • Generous effort Mister @Reid

  • @Reid, thanks for the detailed explanation of MIDI editing! Very clear and useful info for sure.

  • @Reid said:

    @MusicMan4Christ said:
    Sweet, thanks!
    Can one use Navichord to send midi song chord progressions into GB?

    I think the only thing you can do is to use Navichord to record a MIDI song progression with your instrument of choice, and record it. Send the wav file to GB.

    GB accepts midi in - so send midi from navichord into whatever intstrument you've picked in GB and hit record.

  • @Reid said:

    If you tap the screen twice where there's no note, you can "select all" but there's no way to lasso a bunch of MIDI notes and move them together, as far as I can tell.. You have to do them one at a time.

    Long hold your finger on a blank area of the grid. A box will pop up under your finger. Don't lift your finger, just drag in any direction to select contiguous notes.

  • @Halftone said:

    @Reid said:

    @MusicMan4Christ said:
    Sweet, thanks!
    Can one use Navichord to send midi song chord progressions into GB?

    I think the only thing you can do is to use Navichord to record a MIDI song progression with your instrument of choice, and record it. Send the wav file to GB.

    GB accepts midi in - so send midi from navichord into whatever intstrument you've picked in GB and hit record.

    Hmmmmmmmmm

  • @Reid said:

    @MusicMan4Christ said:
    The auto play feature in the smart instruments, how do you edit the midi afterwards?

    @Reid said:
    I don't know how all of you do it, but the way I've been using it is to take some music I've crated in another app, like Blocs Wave.

    Output wav files to Audioshare.
    Click the loops icon and then select audio files.
    Click" "Browse items from the Files App"
    And then I can drag any files files from Audioshare directly into the project.
    At this point I can add drums or bass or Japanese instruments or whatever I want.
    The thing I like to do is to use the autoplay feature in the "smart instruments" and then go into midi edit and change them.

    When I'm done I share the new tracks I've made in GB one by one by into audioshare.
    From there I can work with the whole deal in Auria or on my computer.

    Here's what I've learned about MIDI editing in GB so far:

    On your timeline, tap the track twice, You'll get a number of options: cut, copy, delete, loop, split, edit, rename and settings (velocity, looping, quantization, speed, reverse)

    Tap "edit" You'll see a midi grid. It's easy to drag notes around or make them longer or shorter. Spreading your thumb and forefinger you can make the grid bigger, both side to side and top to bottom. If you hold your finger down on the pen button on the top left, you can draw in new notes. They'll be the length of the last note you made. If you slide it into the lock area, you don't have to hold it down. There's an "undo" icon to the right of the pen.

    If you tap twice on a note you have the option to cut, copy, delete, or change velocity. The velocity slider is very cool, you can hear the loudness change as you slide it.

    For some instruments there are more options. With the strings for example, you can change the instruments (violin, 2nd violin, viola, cello, bass) and articulations (legato, staccato or pizzicato) and with the Guzheng you have a choice of 6 articulations (plucked, picked, Tremolo, Harmonic, Glissando Picked, and Glissando Fingers) There's so much you can easily do, beyond using their autoplay stuff. But the autoplay stuff is such a great start!

    If you tap the screen twice where there's no note, you can "select all" but there's no way to lasso a bunch of MIDI notes and move them together, as far as I can tell.. You have to do them one at a time.

    The notes are clearly marked on the left and they sound if you touch them. If your instrument is a keyboard, you'll see a piano on the left, a stringed instrument it will be a fretboard.

    When you're finished, click "Done" on the upper right.

    As MIDI editors go, it's not at all bad.

    Selecting multiple notes is possible. You can then move them, ore change their velocity, note length or articulation all at once. Copy and paste also works with multiple notes.
    To select, tap and hold in a free area, where there is no note, then move your finger to select a rectangular area of notes.

  • @Chaztrip said:

    @Halftone said:

    @Reid said:

    @MusicMan4Christ said:
    Sweet, thanks!
    Can one use Navichord to send midi song chord progressions into GB?

    I think the only thing you can do is to use Navichord to record a MIDI song progression with your instrument of choice, and record it. Send the wav file to GB.

    GB accepts midi in - so send midi from navichord into whatever intstrument you've picked in GB and hit record.

    Hmmmmmmmmm

    But trying to sync to GarageBang is hell, can’t seem to get the ‘Send Clock’ thing to work.. I guess Ableton Link will be a good addition...

    Or, how will these BramBos midi AUv3s work in GB?

  • Crazy informative thread for those who don’t know GB that well. Thanks, guys..

  • edited November 2017

    @RajahP said:

    @Chaztrip said:

    @Halftone said:

    @Reid said:

    @MusicMan4Christ said:
    Sweet, thanks!
    Can one use Navichord to send midi song chord progressions into GB?

    I think the only thing you can do is to use Navichord to record a MIDI song progression with your instrument of choice, and record it. Send the wav file to GB.

    GB accepts midi in - so send midi from navichord into whatever intstrument you've picked in GB and hit record.

    Hmmmmmmmmm

    But trying to sync to GarageBang is hell, can’t seem to get the ‘Send Clock’ thing to work.. I guess Ableton Link will be a good addition...

    Or, how will these BramBos midi AUv3s work in GB?

    The new MIDI AUs won’t work in any useful way. You can load and use them, but GB doesn’t let you send the MIDI to another instrument or channel. So they’re just silently playing in their own channel :#

  • @brambos said:

    @RajahP said:

    @Chaztrip said:

    @Halftone said:

    @Reid said:

    @MusicMan4Christ said:
    Sweet, thanks!
    Can one use Navichord to send midi song chord progressions into GB?

    I think the only thing you can do is to use Navichord to record a MIDI song progression with your instrument of choice, and record it. Send the wav file to GB.

    GB accepts midi in - so send midi from navichord into whatever intstrument you've picked in GB and hit record.

    Hmmmmmmmmm

    But trying to sync to GarageBang is hell, can’t seem to get the ‘Send Clock’ thing to work.. I guess Ableton Link will be a good addition...

    Or, how will these BramBos midi AUv3s work in GB?

    The new MIDI AUs won’t work in any useful way. You can load and use them, but GB doesn’t let you send the MIDI to another instrument or channel. So they’re just silently playing in their own channel :#

    In space, no one can hear you MIDI...

  • I wish i could copy the midi clip from a smart bass to an AU track, garage band doesn't let me do that, any clue ?

  • @pierre said:
    I wish i could copy the midi clip from a smart bass to an AU track, garage band doesn't let me do that, any clue ?

    Have you tried starting with a non au track and then changing the instrument to au?

  • I must be missing something, but when im in the smart bass, and I try to change the instrument to an AU, garage band load a new track instead of replacing it, I hope im doing something wrong

  • @brambos said:

    @RajahP said:

    @Chaztrip said:

    @Halftone said:

    @Reid said:

    @MusicMan4Christ said:
    Sweet, thanks!
    Can one use Navichord to send midi song chord progressions into GB?

    I think the only thing you can do is to use Navichord to record a MIDI song progression with your instrument of choice, and record it. Send the wav file to GB.

    GB accepts midi in - so send midi from navichord into whatever intstrument you've picked in GB and hit record.

    Hmmmmmmmmm

    But trying to sync to GarageBang is hell, can’t seem to get the ‘Send Clock’ thing to work.. I guess Ableton Link will be a good addition...

    Or, how will these BramBos midi AUv3s work in GB?

    The new MIDI AUs won’t work in any useful way. You can load and use them, but GB doesn’t let you send the MIDI to another instrument or channel. So they’re just silently playing in their own channel :#

    Ok, thanks..

  • @pierre said:
    I wish i could copy the midi clip from a smart bass to an AU track, garage band doesn't let me do that, any clue ?

    Unfortunately this is a no can do on iOS GarageBand...

    The midi-track generated by 'Smart Instruments' can not be dragged to another type of track :(
    Same goes for the 'Drummer Track' which would be handy to drag to a 'drum machine' track for detailed editing.

    Guess they have to save some features for future updates :D

  • @Samu said:

    Unfortunately this is a no can do on iOS GarageBand...

    The midi-track generated by 'Smart Instruments' can not be dragged to another type of track :(
    Same goes for the 'Drummer Track' which would be handy to drag to a 'drum machine' track for detailed editing.

    Guess they have to save some features for future updates :D

    you can drag some smart keyboard midi to an AU track

  • @pierre said:

    @Samu said:

    Unfortunately this is a no can do on iOS GarageBand...

    The midi-track generated by 'Smart Instruments' can not be dragged to another type of track :(
    Same goes for the 'Drummer Track' which would be handy to drag to a 'drum machine' track for detailed editing.

    Guess they have to save some features for future updates :D

    you can drag some smart keyboard midi to an AU track

    Have to try that :)

    I think this may have something to do with the 'articulation'(PitchBends, Glides etc) that gets recorded using the smart-instruments and since GarageBand doesn't support editing of those they can not simply be 'dragged' to another track?(This is a long-shot). I mean you loose all automation recording when you change a patch in any of the instruments...

  • @pierre said:
    I must be missing something, but when im in the smart bass, and I try to change the instrument to an AU, garage band load a new track instead of replacing it, I hope im doing something wrong

    You cannot drag anything which contains special data like articulation.
    This might not even be standard midi

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