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GarageBand Is Pretty Good, You Know?

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  • SamuSamu

    @teleb said:

    You cannot drag anything which contains special data like articulation.
    This might not even be standard midi

    When import a GarageBand session into Logic Pro X it's all standard Midi CC's...

  • telebteleb

    @Samu said:

    @teleb said:

    You cannot drag anything which contains special data like articulation.
    This might not even be standard midi

    When import a GarageBand session into Logic Pro X it's all standard Midi CC's...

    In that case it should be working. They could filter the controls that are special like the articulation. If they wanted to

  • SamuSamu

    @teleb said:

    When import a GarageBand session into Logic Pro X it's all standard Midi CC's...

    In that case it should be working. They could filter the controls that are special like the articulation. If they wanted to

    I think that will come once/if Apple decides to add controller/articulation/automation editing to GarageBand.
    (I've sent feedback to them numerous times without any kind of response).

  • realdavidairealdavidai

    @brambos said:

    @RajahP said:

    @Chaztrip said:

    @Halftone said:

    @Reid said:

    @MusicMan4Christ said:
    Sweet, thanks!
    Can one use Navichord to send midi song chord progressions into GB?

    I think the only thing you can do is to use Navichord to record a MIDI song progression with your instrument of choice, and record it. Send the wav file to GB.

    GB accepts midi in - so send midi from navichord into whatever intstrument you've picked in GB and hit record.

    Hmmmmmmmmm

    But trying to sync to GarageBang is hell, can’t seem to get the ‘Send Clock’ thing to work.. I guess Ableton Link will be a good addition...

    Or, how will these BramBos midi AUv3s work in GB?

    The new MIDI AUs won’t work in any useful way. You can load and use them, but GB doesn’t let you send the MIDI to another instrument or channel. So they’re just silently playing in their own channel :#

    Could some of the sequencers be directly integrated into future version of Ruismaker AU?

  • AlterEgo_UKAlterEgo_UK

    Yes, GB is really pretty good! Check out the videos of iPhoneDo like this one!

    He re-creates theme tunes but also it is a great way to see what GB can do! :smile:

  • SamuSamu

    @AlterEgo_UK said:
    Yes, GB is really pretty good! Check out the videos of iPhoneDo like this one!

    He re-creates theme tunes but also it is a great way to see what GB can do! :smile:

    Agreed and this also shows recording touch-automation (and that makes me miss editing them even more hehe).

  • ReidReid
    edited November 2017

    @brambos said:

    @RajahP said:

    @Chaztrip said:

    @Halftone said:

    @Reid said:

    @MusicMan4Christ said:
    Sweet, thanks!
    Can one use Navichord to send midi song chord progressions into GB?

    I think the only thing you can do is to use Navichord to record a MIDI song progression with your instrument of choice, and record it. Send the wav file to GB.

    GB accepts midi in - so send midi from navichord into whatever intstrument you've picked in GB and hit record.

    Hmmmmmmmmm

    But trying to sync to GarageBang is hell, can’t seem to get the ‘Send Clock’ thing to work.. I guess Ableton Link will be a good addition...

    Or, how will these BramBos midi AUv3s work in GB?

    The new MIDI AUs won’t work in any useful way. You can load and use them, but GB doesn’t let you send the MIDI to another instrument or channel. So they’re just silently playing in their own channel :#

    @brambos You can take a track recorded in Phasemaker and drag it into (or copy it into) any AU track like Zeeon and the Zeeon patch plays the MIDI recorded with Phasemaker.

    You just can't drag it into the Garageband instruments (which have articulation data) or the IAA instruments (which come in as audio).

    I don't understand what you mean by "silently playing in their own channel." I hear them fine, can edit their MIDI and when I'm done I output the song or the separate tracks as audio.

  • illaddinilladdin

    Okay, can we talk about the "Optimizing Performance" thing that takes forever? Is there something I can do to prevent or shorten that process? I'm on the 12.9" iPad Pro 2017, so I would hope that my device is powerful enough to handle a song in GarageBand

  • SamuSamu

    @illaddin said:
    Okay, can we talk about the "Optimizing Performance" thing that takes forever? Is there something I can do to prevent or shorten that process? I'm on the 12.9" iPad Pro 2017, so I would hope that my device is powerful enough to handle a song in GarageBand

    Still it doesn't have 'infinite' CPU resources.
    It would be helpful to know what your session looks like, how many and what plug-ins are used?

  • realdavidairealdavidai
    edited November 2017

    @illaddin said:
    Okay, can we talk about the "Optimizing Performance" thing that takes forever? Is there something I can do to prevent or shorten that process? I'm on the 12.9" iPad Pro 2017, so I would hope that my device is powerful enough to handle a song in GarageBand

    I find reverbs trigger it more than anything else. Also sometimes during playback if you open a window the animation will fool GB into thinking it’s short on resources. It will suddenly panic and optimize. I’m hoping they eventually make the optimization an optional setting.

  • brambosbrambos

    @Reid said:

    The new MIDI AUs won’t work in any useful way. You can load and use them, but GB doesn’t let you send the MIDI to another instrument or channel. So they’re just silently playing in their own channel :#

    @brambos You can take a track recorded in Phasemaker and drag it into (or copy it into) any AU track like Zeeon and the Zeeon patch plays the MIDI recorded with Phasemaker.

    You just can't drag it into the Garageband instruments (which have articulation data) or the IAA instruments (which come in as audio).

    I don't understand what you mean by "silently playing in their own channel." I hear them fine, can edit their MIDI and when I'm done I output the song or the separate tracks as audio.

    Yes, 'normal' Audio Units are not the issue. We're talking about MIDI AU plugins, which do not generate sound but MIDI data. Typically you'd like to send that MIDI data to another synth/instrument which makes sound, but in GB you can not (yet) do that. For now, only AUM supports that - but it's still really early days.

  • realdavidairealdavidai

    @brambos said:

    @Reid said:

    The new MIDI AUs won’t work in any useful way. You can load and use them, but GB doesn’t let you send the MIDI to another instrument or channel. So they’re just silently playing in their own channel :#

    @brambos You can take a track recorded in Phasemaker and drag it into (or copy it into) any AU track like Zeeon and the Zeeon patch plays the MIDI recorded with Phasemaker.

    You just can't drag it into the Garageband instruments (which have articulation data) or the IAA instruments (which come in as audio).

    I don't understand what you mean by "silently playing in their own channel." I hear them fine, can edit their MIDI and when I'm done I output the song or the separate tracks as audio.

    Yes, 'normal' Audio Units are not the issue. We're talking about MIDI AU plugins, which do not generate sound but MIDI data. Typically you'd like to send that MIDI data to another synth/instrument which makes sound, but in GB you can not (yet) do that. For now, only AUM supports that - but it's still really early days.

    I Want to try making silent patterns anyway in GB then dragging the MIDI to a random synth track

  • illaddinilladdin

    @Samu said:

    @illaddin said:
    Okay, can we talk about the "Optimizing Performance" thing that takes forever? Is there something I can do to prevent or shorten that process? I'm on the 12.9" iPad Pro 2017, so I would hope that my device is powerful enough to handle a song in GarageBand

    Still it doesn't have 'infinite' CPU resources.
    It would be helpful to know what your session looks like, how many and what plug-ins are used?

    I've got about 12 tracks. I've also got a couple AUs loaded, which I think might be causing some issues. When I open my project up it asks me if I want to reload the AU or disable them. When I click disable it doesn't need to do any optimization

  • SamuSamu

    @illaddin said:

    @Samu said:

    @illaddin said:
    Okay, can we talk about the "Optimizing Performance" thing that takes forever? Is there something I can do to prevent or shorten that process? I'm on the 12.9" iPad Pro 2017, so I would hope that my device is powerful enough to handle a song in GarageBand

    Still it doesn't have 'infinite' CPU resources.
    It would be helpful to know what your session looks like, how many and what plug-ins are used?

    I've got about 12 tracks. I've also got a couple AUs loaded, which I think might be causing some issues. When I open my project up it asks me if I want to reload the AU or disable them. When I click disable it doesn't need to do any optimization

    Definitely sounds like GarageBand wants to pre-render the tracks for the AUv3's to save some CPU and keep the device cooler and make the battery last longer.

    I wish there was a manual option to manually freeze a 'section/midi-region' making it easier to copy them as audio to the sampler. This 'render' could be done auto-magically when dragging a midi-event to a sampler/audio-track.

    On my Air 2 I've sometimes gotten the 'Optimising Performance' when using iSem( and lately Model 15.
    The other synths(Zeeon, Poison-202, Wolfgangs PPG apps, IceGear apps and stuff from Bram and Virsyn etc.) seem to be a bit friendlier on the CPU.

    The render can take a long time depending on the length of the section.
    (many smaller sections seem to render faster than one long?!).

    I think once the render is done it will not be 're-done' unless there are changes to the midi-notes or instrument parameters but that's just a guess...

  • BrainBrain

    @AnimalHeadSpirit said:

    @ipadthai said:
    It's a pretty good app but I hate having to be in my garage to use it.

    Maybe they should rebrand it as bedroom band. Seems to be the new normal :) Besides, my garage is too drafty and cold this time of year.

    That being the case, another possibility is Anywhereband.

  • supadomsupadom

    @lukesleepwalker said:

    @JohnnyGoodyear said:
    @supadom somewhat snotty nose, gapped out growing teeth, filthy t-shirt; most adorable woman on the internet :) Great snap.

    Seconded!

    Great time spent together playing with GB’s voice effects. Not sure if I want to encourage too much of this before I’ll have to wait until bedtime to get my iPad back. Also all that ‘Steve Jobs’ kids didn’t get to play with tablets’ talk... I guess we’re not in California

  • ecamburnecamburn

    So I was looking around for a midi sequencer for the iPhone tonight and GarageBand came to mind. GarageBand on the iPhone sequences AUs beautifully. Scratched out 32 bars in about 20 minutes and airdropped the GarageBand project file to the iPad. Read the file seamlessly including the AUs. I’m finding being forced to work in sections on the iPhone efficient and productive.

  • gonekrazy3000gonekrazy3000

    @Reid said:

    @brambos said:

    @RajahP said:

    @Chaztrip said:

    @Halftone said:

    @Reid said:

    @MusicMan4Christ said:
    Sweet, thanks!
    Can one use Navichord to send midi song chord progressions into GB?

    I think the only thing you can do is to use Navichord to record a MIDI song progression with your instrument of choice, and record it. Send the wav file to GB.

    GB accepts midi in - so send midi from navichord into whatever intstrument you've picked in GB and hit record.

    Hmmmmmmmmm

    But trying to sync to GarageBang is hell, can’t seem to get the ‘Send Clock’ thing to work.. I guess Ableton Link will be a good addition...

    Or, how will these BramBos midi AUv3s work in GB?

    The new MIDI AUs won’t work in any useful way. You can load and use them, but GB doesn’t let you send the MIDI to another instrument or channel. So they’re just silently playing in their own channel :#

    @brambos You can take a track recorded in Phasemaker and drag it into (or copy it into) any AU track like Zeeon and the Zeeon patch plays the MIDI recorded with Phasemaker.

    You just can't drag it into the Garageband instruments (which have articulation data) or the IAA instruments (which come in as audio).

    I don't understand what you mean by "silently playing in their own channel." I hear them fine, can edit their MIDI and when I'm done I output the song or the separate tracks as audio.

    Right now the only app that supports midi out AUs is AUM. @brambos has an upcoming sequencer AU pack called Odessa.

  • audiorangutanaudiorangutan

    @Samu said:
    ...struggled a bit in the beginning as well but then it just 'clicked.

    Yep, GB just finally clicked for me too, now I’m hooked. It’s giving me that Ableton Live style arrangement workflow that I love. Booom!

  • realdavidairealdavidai

    @ecamburn said:
    So I was looking around for a midi sequencer for the iPhone tonight and GarageBand came to mind. GarageBand on the iPhone sequences AUs beautifully. Scratched out 32 bars in about 20 minutes and airdropped the GarageBand project file to the iPad. Read the file seamlessly including the AUs. I’m finding being forced to work in sections on the iPhone efficient and productive.

    Cool! Just in case.... Keep in mind that sections aren’t mandatory. You can make the project as many bars as you’d like before hand and then record to the time line In a more traditional way. It took me too long to realize this was possible

  • ecamburnecamburn

    @realdavidai said:

    @ecamburn said:
    So I was looking around for a midi sequencer for the iPhone tonight and GarageBand came to mind. GarageBand on the iPhone sequences AUs beautifully. Scratched out 32 bars in about 20 minutes and airdropped the GarageBand project file to the iPad. Read the file seamlessly including the AUs. I’m finding being forced to work in sections on the iPhone efficient and productive.

    Cool! Just in case.... Keep in mind that sections aren’t mandatory. You can make the project as many bars as you’d like before hand and then record to the time line In a more traditional way. It took me too long to realize this was possible

    Thanks for that. Do you know how to turn sections off after the fact? The one down side is when they're on you can't really play through the whole song. It would be nice if there was a way to toggle them off and on.

  • realdavidairealdavidai
    edited November 2017

    @ecamburn said:

    @realdavidai said:

    @ecamburn said:
    So I was looking around for a midi sequencer for the iPhone tonight and GarageBand came to mind. GarageBand on the iPhone sequences AUs beautifully. Scratched out 32 bars in about 20 minutes and airdropped the GarageBand project file to the iPad. Read the file seamlessly including the AUs. I’m finding being forced to work in sections on the iPhone efficient and productive.

    Cool! Just in case.... Keep in mind that sections aren’t mandatory. You can make the project as many bars as you’d like before hand and then record to the time line In a more traditional way. It took me too long to realize this was possible

    Thanks for that. Do you know how to turn sections off after the fact? The one down side is when they're on you can't really play through the whole song. It would be nice if there was a way to toggle them off and on.

    I’m not sure if you can turn them off, but you should be able to see them all and play through them in the timeline by selecting “All Sections”

  • ecamburnecamburn

    Thanks @realdavidai . That "+" feels a little like an easter egg. But I will be tapping it often now. :-)

  • realdavidairealdavidai

    @ecamburn said:
    Thanks @realdavidai . That "+" feels a little like an easter egg. But I will be tapping it often now. :-)

    Ha that’s a good word for it :)

  • SamuSamu
    edited November 2017

    Another neat GarageBand trick is to create an empty sampler instrument track.

    Go back to the sequencer and bring up the floating Files.app and drag any sample to the sampler-track and boom, you've got a sampler-instrument. It even imports the loop-settings from the *.wav file :)
    (I hope we'll see something similar in a future Cubasis update @LFS ).

  • SamuSamu

    Custom Ringtones with GarageBand(No iTunes needed).
    https://9to5mac.com/2017/11/10/iphone-ipad-custom-ringtones-make-ringtone-garageband/

  • telebteleb

    @Samu said:
    Custom Ringtones with GarageBand(No iTunes needed).
    https://9to5mac.com/2017/11/10/iphone-ipad-custom-ringtones-make-ringtone-garageband/

    And you can of course do your own compositions and export them as ring tones.
    I did that with the GB built in hard rock guitar. Our secretary always complains about my ring tone :-)

  • SamuSamu

    @teleb said:

    @Samu said:
    Custom Ringtones with GarageBand(No iTunes needed).
    https://9to5mac.com/2017/11/10/iphone-ipad-custom-ringtones-make-ringtone-garageband/

    And you can of course do your own compositions and export them as ring tones.
    I did that with the GB built in hard rock guitar. Our secretary always complains about my ring tone :-)

    Yepp, and it's quite fun too hehe...

    I recall before one needed to use iTunes on the computer to transfer the .m4r files back to the Phone :)
    I'm happy the iTunes ties are being slowly cut...

  • lukesleepwalkerlukesleepwalker

    @ecamburn said:
    So I was looking around for a midi sequencer for the iPhone tonight and GarageBand came to mind. GarageBand on the iPhone sequences AUs beautifully. Scratched out 32 bars in about 20 minutes and airdropped the GarageBand project file to the iPad. Read the file seamlessly including the AUs. I’m finding being forced to work in sections on the iPhone efficient and productive.

    This is the exact reason I'm back to GB. Great iPhone experience has me productive on the go!

  • realdavidairealdavidai

    @Samu said:
    Another neat GarageBand trick is to create an empty sampler instrument track.

    Go back to the sequencer and bring up the floating Files.app and drag any sample to the sampler-track and boom, you've got a sampler-instrument. It even imports the loop-settings from the *.wav file :)
    (I hope we'll see something similar in a future Cubasis update @LFS ).

    Ooo nice

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