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Rozeta Cells - WHAAAAAAAAT?!?!?!?!?!?

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  • CarnbotCarnbot

    Cool B)

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]

    @brambos said:
    Testing the FREE MOVING playhead mode... Create your own maze!

    Colour me drooling for this :)

  • lukesleepwalkerlukesleepwalker

    @brambos said:
    Testing the FREE MOVING playhead mode... Create your own maze!

    Wow, mesmerizing!

  • chockfullofthatchockfullofthat

    How do you route Rozeta on AUM? Does it go in an instrument slot?

  • gusgranitegusgranite

    What a way to end the year, @brambos!!

    In another thread we talk back and forth about the etiquette of asking for more features and you just steamroller through with your own big vision.

    Keep it rolling!!

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]

    Genius!

  • brambosbrambos

    @chockfullofthat said:
    How do you route Rozeta on AUM? Does it go in an instrument slot?

    Yes, and then it will show up in the MIDI input sources for all other instruments and in the MIdI matrix.

  • chockfullofthatchockfullofthat

    @brambos said:

    @chockfullofthat said:
    How do you route Rozeta on AUM? Does it go in an instrument slot?

    Yes, and then it will show up in the MIDI input sources for all other instruments and in the MIdI matrix.

    Thanks. Just watched the preview video for Cells. Looks inspired by Rene.

  • brambosbrambos

    @chockfullofthat said:

    @brambos said:

    @chockfullofthat said:
    How do you route Rozeta on AUM? Does it go in an instrument slot?

    Yes, and then it will show up in the MIDI input sources for all other instruments and in the MIdI matrix.

    Thanks. Just watched the preview video for Cells. Looks inspired by Rene.

    Rene?

  • chockfullofthatchockfullofthat

    Make Noise René

  • Telstar5Telstar5

    There goes Samu again... Asking the right questions in the right way at the right time.

  • WillWill

    @brambos said:

    @Samu said:

    @brambos said:
    Maybe I didn't understand the use case; why would you need multiple keyboards?

    Let's say I use one of the onboard keyboard to control one instance of say the 'Bass Line'(for easy transposition) and another keyboard is feeding the 'Arpeggiator' and a third might be controlling the new 'Cells' thing. Sure the AUM keyboard can be re-routed easily but that makes using 'hold' impossible.

    Right, got it! But something about that description gave me a vision of herding stubborn sheep :D There must be a more elegant way. Let me ponder that one!

    "Rozeta Keyboard"? A standalone, configurable (and scalable?) keyboard as a MIDI AU. Then Samu can set 5 up at once.

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]

    @syrupcore said:

    @brambos said:

    @Samu said:

    @brambos said:
    Maybe I didn't understand the use case; why would you need multiple keyboards?

    Let's say I use one of the onboard keyboard to control one instance of say the 'Bass Line'(for easy transposition) and another keyboard is feeding the 'Arpeggiator' and a third might be controlling the new 'Cells' thing. Sure the AUM keyboard can be re-routed easily but that makes using 'hold' impossible.

    Right, got it! But something about that description gave me a vision of herding stubborn sheep :D There must be a more elegant way. Let me ponder that one!

    "Rozeta Keyboard"? A standalone, configurable (and scalable?) keyboard as a MIDI AU. Then Samu can set 5 up at once.

    Yeah there is quite a lot of need from myself for an AU Midi keyboard similar to the one in Animoog. Imagine a lovely set of ‘keys’ in any shape you want and any scale or two. Imagine X and Y midi sends and as many controllers as you want. Yeah it needs to be simple, but it needs to have that extra utility that the AUM keyboard (and many more besides) fails to deliver

  • WillWill
    edited December 2017

    This is extremely exciting. Feel like this could be the missing link for my and Rozeta's love affair. One instance of R.Cells pointed at the other transposable sequencers = rozeta song mode. Hoping for very slow clock dividers!

    Edit: I guess that would require some way for the monophonic sequencers to use lowest-note-priority or something if a chord was sent.

  • WillWill

    Oh wait. If Cells had a "Live" mode where touching a cell triggers the note/chord, Cells could be used a custom keyboard, no?

  • WillWill

    @Fruitbat1919 said:

    @syrupcore said:

    @brambos said:

    @Samu said:

    @brambos said:
    Maybe I didn't understand the use case; why would you need multiple keyboards?

    Let's say I use one of the onboard keyboard to control one instance of say the 'Bass Line'(for easy transposition) and another keyboard is feeding the 'Arpeggiator' and a third might be controlling the new 'Cells' thing. Sure the AUM keyboard can be re-routed easily but that makes using 'hold' impossible.

    Right, got it! But something about that description gave me a vision of herding stubborn sheep :D There must be a more elegant way. Let me ponder that one!

    "Rozeta Keyboard"? A standalone, configurable (and scalable?) keyboard as a MIDI AU. Then Samu can set 5 up at once.

    Yeah there is quite a lot of need from myself for an AU Midi keyboard similar to the one in Animoog. Imagine a lovely set of ‘keys’ in any shape you want and any scale or two. Imagine X and Y midi sends and as many controllers as you want. Yeah it needs to be simple, but it needs to have that extra utility that the AUM keyboard (and many more besides) fails to deliver

    Agreed. A bit ago I was thinking how handy it would be if AUM added another keyboard source but after more time with Rozeta and with more apps supporting MIDI AUs (er, Rozeta) the ability to call up a boss-mode keyboard anywhere is way more appealing. Pulling up a TJ or Animoog keyboard (or Magellan's octave mode or a hex grid or...) in say BM3 to point at whatever internal or hosted source you want sounds like the future I wanna live in. Whereas adding another keyboard source to AUM would just be a patch.

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]

    @syrupcore said:

    @Fruitbat1919 said:

    @syrupcore said:

    @brambos said:

    @Samu said:

    @brambos said:
    Maybe I didn't understand the use case; why would you need multiple keyboards?

    Let's say I use one of the onboard keyboard to control one instance of say the 'Bass Line'(for easy transposition) and another keyboard is feeding the 'Arpeggiator' and a third might be controlling the new 'Cells' thing. Sure the AUM keyboard can be re-routed easily but that makes using 'hold' impossible.

    Right, got it! But something about that description gave me a vision of herding stubborn sheep :D There must be a more elegant way. Let me ponder that one!

    "Rozeta Keyboard"? A standalone, configurable (and scalable?) keyboard as a MIDI AU. Then Samu can set 5 up at once.

    Yeah there is quite a lot of need from myself for an AU Midi keyboard similar to the one in Animoog. Imagine a lovely set of ‘keys’ in any shape you want and any scale or two. Imagine X and Y midi sends and as many controllers as you want. Yeah it needs to be simple, but it needs to have that extra utility that the AUM keyboard (and many more besides) fails to deliver

    Agreed. A bit ago I was thinking how handy it would be if AUM added another keyboard source but after more time with Rozeta and with more apps supporting MIDI AUs (er, Rozeta) the ability to call up a boss-mode keyboard anywhere is way more appealing. Pulling up a TJ or Animoog keyboard (or Magellan's octave mode or a hex grid or...) in say BM3 to point at whatever internal or hosted source you want sounds like the future I wanna live in. Whereas adding another keyboard source to AUM would just be a patch.

    Yeah so much potential for us traveling iPaders who need onscreen keyboards, pads, controllers etc.

    Makes controlling apps that are in the background possible too :)

  • JudgeDreddJudgeDredd

    A nice Animoog style configurable keyboard ( Chords and Scales ) would be very cool as an AU.

  • ipluckthestringipluckthestring

    Model 15 has an Animoog style keyboard inside its au that can be routed in aum. Would that not work? Am I missing something?

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]

    @ipluckthestring said:
    Model 15 has an Animoog style keyboard inside its au that can be routed in aum. Would that not work? Am I missing something?

    Yes, an AU Midi keyboard has lots of advantages over loading an app to do a similar job:

    1. Using an app uses much more resources. Model 15 is high cost in resources, so not really advisable just for a keyboard.
    2. An AU Midi keyboard can be used within the current open app and does not need to be on another screen, as using IAA would be.
    3. An AU keyboard would allow a lot of variation and creativity in keyboard design. You could have many by many different devs.
    4. AU Midi allows keyboard design to be a lot more creative towards how it sends, what it sends and where it sends midi. Many in app designs tend to have many limits to what they send and where.
      etc etc
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]
    edited December 2017
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  • realdavidairealdavidai

    AU Keyboard sounds like a huge opportunity for innovation!

    Would also be cool to see a MIDI AU that resembles Patterning’s Circular sequencer.

  • RajahPRajahP
    edited December 2017

    Is it possible to save presets in these apps? Created a nice sequence in Bassline and cannot find a save as in BM3.

    Edit... seems to be a BM3 thing .. there is an option to save presets in AUM..

  • brambosbrambos

    @RajahP said:
    Is it possible to save presets in these apps? Created a nice sequence in Bassline and cannot find a save as in BM3.

    BM3 still doesn’t support AU presets, eh? I think it’s the last DAW that doesn’t have that basic feature.

    Does BM3 have any other way to save something with an AU state in it? Bank templates or something?

  • SamuSamu

    Regarding AUv3 Presets Apple should really 'open up' /Library/Audio/Presets (or similar location) for all AUv3's so we could use the same presets in all apps that can host AUv3's....

  • brambosbrambos

    @Samu said:
    Regarding AUv3 Presets Apple should really 'open up' /Library/Audio/Presets (or similar location) for all AUv3's so we could use the same presets in all apps that can host AUv3's....

    Agreed. The way presets now have to be fumbled around using AppGroup hacks just feels like nobody actually thought about it.

    And perhaps they didn’t. It’s possible that the ‘it only really needs to work for Garageband’ principle was applied here.

  • SamuSamu

    @brambos said:

    And perhaps they didn’t. It’s possible that the ‘it only really needs to work for Garageband’ principle was applied here.

    Most likely and that 'strategy' needs some serious re-thinking and I do hope we'll see a re-vamped GarageBand.
    I'm ready to pay IAP to unlock more 'advanced' features like full AUv3 support with automation (including the built-in effects) and editing and not to forget editing of the touch-instrument automation and an unlock to enable full editing of the ESX24, UltraBeat and RetroSynth patches... Sell that IAP for $24.99 and I'm all in...

  • RajahPRajahP

    @brambos said:

    @RajahP said:
    Is it possible to save presets in these apps? Created a nice sequence in Bassline and cannot find a save as in BM3.

    BM3 still doesn’t support AU presets, eh? I think it’s the last DAW that doesn’t have that basic feature.

    Does BM3 have any other way to save something with an AU state in it? Bank templates or something?

    Really just pick it (BM3) back up.. its a ‘maze’ for me at this point...
    Guess I will stick with AUM for now..

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]

    @RajahP said:

    @brambos said:

    @RajahP said:
    Is it possible to save presets in these apps? Created a nice sequence in Bassline and cannot find a save as in BM3.

    BM3 still doesn’t support AU presets, eh? I think it’s the last DAW that doesn’t have that basic feature.

    Does BM3 have any other way to save something with an AU state in it? Bank templates or something?

    Really just pick it (BM3) back up.. its a ‘maze’ for me at this point...
    Guess I will stick with AUM for now..

    It is a mystery. It’s the same for Viking Synth. No presets and no saves in BM3!

  • WillWill
    edited December 2017

    @StudioES said:
    A 'Cartesian or snake-motion' 16-step sequencer named after René Descartes, "it uses his cartesian coordinate system to unlock the analog step sequencer from the shackles of linearity".
    Very popular Eurorack non-linear 16-step sequencer. Might be cool for 'ideas'. :)

    Basically, both it's X axis & Y axis are driven by their own clock input & CV inputs. 'Mutations' include Logic operations with on-the-fly switching, etc. It has clock dividers/multipliers, stored quantized voltages, & modulation inputs for all that, etc.

    http://www.makenoisemusic.com/manuals/ReneManual.pdf

    Dammit.

    Edit: double dammit at ~6:30.

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