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Rozeta Cells - WHAAAAAAAAT?!?!?!?!?!?

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  • @RajahP said:
    Is it possible to save presets in these apps? Created a nice sequence in Bassline and cannot find a save as in BM3.

    Edit... seems to be a BM3 thing .. there is an option to save presets in AUM..

    The sequences you create in BM3 will be saved in the project file, obviously. So unless you were planning to use them again in another project they will be saved just fine for whatever you're working on.

  • @brambos said:

    @RajahP said:
    Is it possible to save presets in these apps? Created a nice sequence in Bassline and cannot find a save as in BM3.

    Edit... seems to be a BM3 thing .. there is an option to save presets in AUM..

    The sequences you create in BM3 will be saved in the project file, obviously. So unless you were planning to use them again in another project they will be saved just fine for whatever you're working on.

    Yes, would like to save to use in another project .. since its super simple to transpose to another key and alter the sequences..
    No biggie.. pretty sure BM3 will implement it in an update..

  • Save it as a Bank in BM3, you can reopen it in any other project, it is not ideal, but gets you where you want to be.

  • @Samplemunch said:
    Save it as a Bank in BM3, you can reopen it in any other project, it is not ideal, but gets you where you want to be.

    That’s a grand idea :)

  • @Samplemunch said:
    Save it as a Bank in BM3, you can reopen it in any other project, it is not ideal, but gets you where you want to be.

    Great! I was hoping something like that was possible!

  • @Samplemunch said:
    Save it as a Bank in BM3, you can reopen it in any other project, it is not ideal, but gets you where you want to be.

    Another reason I just can’t give up on BM3. It needs some things, but has really got so much going for it when looking at new ways to work.

  • @Fruitbat1919 said:

    @Samplemunch said:
    Save it as a Bank in BM3, you can reopen it in any other project, it is not ideal, but gets you where you want to be.

    Another reason I just can’t give up on BM3. It needs some things, but has really got so much going for it when looking at new ways to work.

    BM3 is also getting updates at an almost insane phase and we're not just talking about 'bug fixes'...
    The fun thing with it is that the things that are already there stimulate my brain to come up with even crazier ideas and most of them fall into good ground ;)

  • @Samu said:

    @Fruitbat1919 said:

    @Samplemunch said:
    Save it as a Bank in BM3, you can reopen it in any other project, it is not ideal, but gets you where you want to be.

    Another reason I just can’t give up on BM3. It needs some things, but has really got so much going for it when looking at new ways to work.

    BM3 is also getting updates at an almost insane phase and we're not just talking about 'bug fixes'...
    The fun thing with it is that the things that are already there stimulate my brain to come up with even crazier ideas and most of them fall into good ground ;)

    Since the advent of AU Midi in BM3, my projects are coming on thick and fast. I’ve started 5 new projects today alone. Yes I often get bored quick and delete them, but I’m really getting to grips with a work flow (hate saying work flow lol) that just works for me. The only real problems I’m having at the moment are through IAA use.

  • edited December 2017

    @Fruitbat1919 said:
    The only real problems I’m having at the moment are through IAA use.

    IAAs are quite sour especially if there is a need to load/unload them often.
    If the app has AB support (AB gives most apps an IAA-Generator) it's more 'stable' to host them in AB and then put BM3 i the output slot of AB and record them that way.

  • @Samu said:

    @Fruitbat1919 said:
    The only real problems I’m having at the moment are through IAA use.

    IAAs are quite sour especially if there is a need to load/unload them often.
    If the app has AB support (AB gives most apps an IAA-Generator) it's more 'stable' to host them in AB and then put BM3 i the output slot of AB and record them that way.

    Yeah it’s only the Korg apps I’m using as IAA now. I wonder how stable Gadget is as an IAA within BM3? Maybe that might be more stable than running them as stand alone IAA.

  • @Fruitbat1919 said:

    Yeah it’s only the Korg apps I’m using as IAA now. I wonder how stable Gadget is as an IAA within BM3? Maybe that might be more stable than running them as stand alone IAA.

    As long as you don't load & unload Gadget constantly it works pretty well.
    (Gadget is one of my most 'sampled' non-auv3 apps in BM3 closely followed by iOS Soundcanvas).

  • @Samu said:

    @Fruitbat1919 said:

    Yeah it’s only the Korg apps I’m using as IAA now. I wonder how stable Gadget is as an IAA within BM3? Maybe that might be more stable than running them as stand alone IAA.

    As long as you don't load & unload Gadget constantly it works pretty well.
    (Gadget is one of my most 'sampled' non-auv3 apps in BM3 closely followed by iOS Soundcanvas).

    Soundcanvas is one of the few apps I’ve passed by. That will change if it ever became AU or added an AU player extension similar to iSymphonic

  • @Fruitbat1919 said:

    Soundcanvas is one of the few apps I’ve passed by. That will change if it ever became AU or added an AU player extension similar to iSymphonic

    That's what I'm hoping for but looking at Rolands track record on iOS it would take a miracle for that to happen...

  • @brambos said:

    @RajahP said:
    Is it possible to save presets in these apps? Created a nice sequence in Bassline and cannot find a save as in BM3.

    BM3 still doesn’t support AU presets, eh? I think it’s the last DAW that doesn’t have that basic feature.

    Does BM3 have any other way to save something with an AU state in it? Bank templates or something?

    I just save it as a bank. The AU state is saved in the bank.

  • @wim said:

    @brambos said:

    @RajahP said:
    Is it possible to save presets in these apps? Created a nice sequence in Bassline and cannot find a save as in BM3.

    BM3 still doesn’t support AU presets, eh? I think it’s the last DAW that doesn’t have that basic feature.

    Does BM3 have any other way to save something with an AU state in it? Bank templates or something?

    I just save it as a bank. The AU state is saved in the bank.

    That’s cool for many uses, but say you wanted to load presets in Viking Synth, you would need to create the preset from scratch (no saves at all) and save them all as banks. Not really very usable. It’s fine for some apps that have their own preset files.

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  • @Fruitbat1919 said:

    @wim said:

    @brambos said:

    @RajahP said:
    Is it possible to save presets in these apps? Created a nice sequence in Bassline and cannot find a save as in BM3.

    BM3 still doesn’t support AU presets, eh? I think it’s the last DAW that doesn’t have that basic feature.

    Does BM3 have any other way to save something with an AU state in it? Bank templates or something?

    I just save it as a bank. The AU state is saved in the bank.

    That’s cool for many uses, but say you wanted to load presets in Viking Synth, you would need to create the preset from scratch (no saves at all) and save them all as banks. Not really very usable. It’s fine for some apps that have their own preset files.

    I didn't say it was a good solution. :D

  • @wim said:

    @Fruitbat1919 said:

    @wim said:

    @brambos said:

    @RajahP said:
    Is it possible to save presets in these apps? Created a nice sequence in Bassline and cannot find a save as in BM3.

    BM3 still doesn’t support AU presets, eh? I think it’s the last DAW that doesn’t have that basic feature.

    Does BM3 have any other way to save something with an AU state in it? Bank templates or something?

    I just save it as a bank. The AU state is saved in the bank.

    That’s cool for many uses, but say you wanted to load presets in Viking Synth, you would need to create the preset from scratch (no saves at all) and save them all as banks. Not really very usable. It’s fine for some apps that have their own preset files.

    I didn't say it was a good solution. :D

    That you didn’t lol ;)

  • As long as there's no proper way to share presets created for AUv3's between hosts the AUv3 preset handling will be a PITA and we're better of by having each AUv3 handle their own presets and that is something Blamsoft simply refuses to do with Viking...

  • @Samu said:
    As long as there's no proper way to share presets created for AUv3's between hosts the AUv3 preset handling will be a PITA and we're better of by having each AUv3 handle their own presets and that is something Blamsoft simply refuses to do with Viking...

    Yeah it’s a shame. The PPG apps are still my favourite way of handling presets and banks

  • @d4d0ug said:
    I have a Rozeta bank in BM3. All the Rozeta AUs setup in a single BM3 bank, ready to use in any session :smile:

    This hurts my head just a little bit. So each one creates a separate virtual MIDI session that you can pipe into a sound bank? I feel a light bulb moment coming...

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  • @brambos said:

    @Carnbot said:
    nice, so a bit like Midisteps technique?

    Sort of. A mix of that, and SH-101, with a sprinkle of 2-dimensional crawling around thrown in. Still work in progress though.

    I like it. The whole Rozeta suite is exiting & excellently done.

    What about making a “Dodekafoni” module, based on the principles of Arnold Schoenberg.
    12 tone music. It takes to much space to discuss the composition technique here, but I’m sure you’ve heard of him.
    He brought tonality to its knees after ww1. Works like “Pierrot Lunaire” has some wonderful atonal sound clusters on the piano... I guess it could be programmed, because of his strict rules. It could also get some coverage on the classical scene :smile:

  • @Kühl said:

    @brambos said:

    @Carnbot said:
    nice, so a bit like Midisteps technique?

    Sort of. A mix of that, and SH-101, with a sprinkle of 2-dimensional crawling around thrown in. Still work in progress though.

    I like it. The whole Rozeta suite is exiting & excellently done.

    What about making a “Dodekafoni” module, based on the principles of Arnold Schoenberg.
    12 tone music. It takes to much space to discuss the composition technique here, but I’m sure you’ve heard of him.
    He brought tonality to its knees after ww1. Works like “Pierrot Lunaire” has some wonderful atonal sound clusters on the piano... I guess it could be programmed, because of his strict rules. It could also get some coverage on the classical scene :smile:

    +1 for this this!
    It's interesting & crazy enough to fit into the whole concept :)

  • @Samu said:

    @Kühl said:

    @brambos said:

    @Carnbot said:
    nice, so a bit like Midisteps technique?

    Sort of. A mix of that, and SH-101, with a sprinkle of 2-dimensional crawling around thrown in. Still work in progress though.

    I like it. The whole Rozeta suite is exiting & excellently done.

    What about making a “Dodekafoni” module, based on the principles of Arnold Schoenberg.
    12 tone music. It takes to much space to discuss the composition technique here, but I’m sure you’ve heard of him.
    He brought tonality to its knees after ww1. Works like “Pierrot Lunaire” has some wonderful atonal sound clusters on the piano... I guess it could be programmed, because of his strict rules. It could also get some coverage on the classical scene :smile:

    +1 for this this!
    It's interesting & crazy enough to fit into the whole concept :)

    +2

  • +3 !!!!!

  • I didn’t want to start a whole new thread so I’m bumping this one since it concerns the Bram Bos MIDI effect suite Rozeta.

    Since Cubasis got updated I’ve been messing with the MIDI effects a lot more. Now I confess to be a complete neophyte when it comes to deep MIDI beyond the standard usage of recording MIDI to drive synths & drum machines, etc. and light MIDI CC use for controller, etc. but I’m trying to get deeper into it.

    The ability to record the output of the MIDI AU’s of Rozeta is brilliant. First you can get say, some cool part from Cells, and put it into a manageable MIDI region to edit. Then if the CPU is tripping from too many other things going on in the project you can freeze that MIDI data into an audio track.

    Like I said, the heavy MIDI cats already knew of all these cool possibilities but when the 2.4 Cubasis update dropped I was more blown away by the Files app integration, making the use of samples a lot easier than the media bay alone was. But the MIDI effects functionality is really insane, so much can be done with it...

  • @JRSIV said:
    I didn’t want to start a whole new thread so I’m bumping this one since it concerns the Bram Bos MIDI effect suite Rozeta.

    Since Cubasis got updated I’ve been messing with the MIDI effects a lot more. Now I confess to be a complete neophyte when it comes to deep MIDI beyond the standard usage of recording MIDI to drive synths & drum machines, etc. and light MIDI CC use for controller, etc. but I’m trying to get deeper into it.

    The ability to record the output of the MIDI AU’s of Rozeta is brilliant. First you can get say, some cool part from Cells, and put it into a manageable MIDI region to edit. Then if the CPU is tripping from too many other things going on in the project you can freeze that MIDI data into an audio track.

    Like I said, the heavy MIDI cats already knew of all these cool possibilities but when the 2.4 Cubasis update dropped I was more blown away by the Files app integration, making the use of samples a lot easier than the media bay alone was. But the MIDI effects functionality is really insane, so much can be done with it...

    Fellow newbie here, mostly working in AUM as I try to work out how it would be to “play” some of my ideas live, but definitely also digging into Cubasis. My favorite (for now) Rozeta trick is to use Cells to drive Arpeggio to drive a synth - and sometimes kick in an instance of LFO driving the number of octaves and, say, accent interval on Arpeggio with sample and hold waves at some fraction of tempo. Delicious!

  • @hlprmnky said:

    Fellow newbie here, mostly working in AUM as I try to work out how it would be to “play” some of my ideas live, but definitely also digging into Cubasis. My favorite (for now) Rozeta trick is to use Cells to drive Arpeggio to drive a synth - and sometimes kick in an instance of LFO driving the number of octaves and, say, accent interval on Arpeggio with sample and hold waves at some fraction of tempo. Delicious!

    Nice one, thanks. I wish the time division in Rozeta Arp was also exposed to midi cc. I don't know why he decided not to.

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