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  • BiancaNeveBiancaNeve

    Nah, Apps are for collecting and discussing. Any music that falls out as a result is a pure bonus.

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]

    Damn I fed the troll.

    Damn damn even writing this feeds the troll.

    Damn damn damn.....

  • zhoezhoe
    edited December 2017

    @Fruitbat1919 said:

    @zhoe said:

    @Love3quency said:
    Decided that there is some hypocrisy here. I get heat and accused of trolling and dissing, yet it’s ok for those that disagree with me to troll and diss me.

    Not my intention to create arguments here, just brutally honest discussions.

    I guess our mutual points are valid for better or for worse.

    Another contention I have is that it’s simply annoying how this forum is almost like the BM3 forum at times and that there is so much time discussing this app yet hardly any music is shared from it. There are so many other apps that could be focused on and understood better for our mutual benefit. And they just keep getting released.

    I’ve concluded that by me bringing up BM3 that I’m triggering even more long winded talk about it and will not get the results I need- iPhone version and evidence that people are crafting full songs with it.

    Apologies for any angst peeps

    I’ll end this here

    Peace

    A claim that it is ‘not your intention to create arguements’ is a false one in my opinion. You don’t seem to accept anything that has been argued here, and you keep going on about two things; BM3 being universal and asking people to share BM3 tracks. What about adressing your own starting points first: the fact NS2 won’t be universal either, and that you didn’t provide your own tracks fully made on NS2. That is how it works if one wants to be both polite and contentious, but also consistent with its own argument. You first say your name and then ask me what’s my name. But people here will not ask you to post your own songs, because this is the forum where we discuss tech apps’ stuff, specs, features, announcements etc. Ocassionaly, people will share their work, but this is not the forum for it, anyway, and as someone already said, people might feel reluctant to do it because it won’t be the right way to argue any technical point. Music taste is subjective anyway, and you have already admitted that you heard FINISHED songs on BM3 but that you didn’t like them. Since it is impossible to argue subjective issues, I rest my case.

    I can say that I’ve never finished any song to my liking. Not enough to actually say here is a finished song! I have lots of apps - are they all rubbish because I don’t complete song? No, of course not.

    I can however say, that I have got closer with BM3 than I ever have with any other app, but does that mean it’s better? No, of course not. It means it fits me now at this time.

    All this of course has no bearing on NS2 because it’s irrelevant to that app, the dev of that app or even if I should buy that app or not. NS2 will be ‘another thing’ - just as iMPC Pro2 or Auria or Cubasis etc etc. They are just apps and have little bearing on if I make good music or crap music....that is and will always be down to my own skills.

    Absolutely my point, as well. I haven't finished a track on my iPad either, because my workflow is different. I finish tracks in Cubase on my PC, because I record additional vocal tracks, guitar and synth tracks which I am unable to do on iPad, mainly because I have tons of stuff on my PC that I gotten used to over the years. Pro plugins mainly. That is not to say I cannot finish a track on my iPad using one or several apps. iOS musicmaking has been an important part of my workflow. And with every year, I do more and more stuff on my iPad and less stuff on my computer. Could I finish the entire track on my BM3 or NS? I could, of course, but my workflow is different, that's all. All that said, I might do a project that never leaves my iPad from the initial idea to completion, using my fav aps, because it can be done, and it can be done professionally.

  • hansjbshansjbs

    As you all can see no matter what we say he won’t stop asking or derailing a thread that he himself started from a simple question which was answered already. This is not the first time he acts like this. Like many has said let’s not feed him.

  • zhoezhoe

    @Love3quency said:
    The point is that it’s a pro music app and likely the most hyped one of all time

    Reluctance / inability to release decent tracks with it proves my points further

    Sorry

    Let’s hear some results of usage please, after all.. that’s what apps are for - results!

    The end product

    A.It seems to me that you have an internet connection. The fact you use it for trolling doesn't prove or disprove it is a good or bad internet connection.
    B. "Decent" tracks is subjective term. I already said that, but you keep going on about it which proves the A. point.
    Keep looping.

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]
    edited December 2017

    @zhoe said:

    @Fruitbat1919 said:

    @zhoe said:

    @Love3quency said:
    Decided that there is some hypocrisy here. I get heat and accused of trolling and dissing, yet it’s ok for those that disagree with me to troll and diss me.

    Not my intention to create arguments here, just brutally honest discussions.

    I guess our mutual points are valid for better or for worse.

    Another contention I have is that it’s simply annoying how this forum is almost like the BM3 forum at times and that there is so much time discussing this app yet hardly any music is shared from it. There are so many other apps that could be focused on and understood better for our mutual benefit. And they just keep getting released.

    I’ve concluded that by me bringing up BM3 that I’m triggering even more long winded talk about it and will not get the results I need- iPhone version and evidence that people are crafting full songs with it.

    Apologies for any angst peeps

    I’ll end this here

    Peace

    A claim that it is ‘not your intention to create arguements’ is a false one in my opinion. You don’t seem to accept anything that has been argued here, and you keep going on about two things; BM3 being universal and asking people to share BM3 tracks. What about adressing your own starting points first: the fact NS2 won’t be universal either, and that you didn’t provide your own tracks fully made on NS2. That is how it works if one wants to be both polite and contentious, but also consistent with its own argument. You first say your name and then ask me what’s my name. But people here will not ask you to post your own songs, because this is the forum where we discuss tech apps’ stuff, specs, features, announcements etc. Ocassionaly, people will share their work, but this is not the forum for it, anyway, and as someone already said, people might feel reluctant to do it because it won’t be the right way to argue any technical point. Music taste is subjective anyway, and you have already admitted that you heard FINISHED songs on BM3 but that you didn’t like them. Since it is impossible to argue subjective issues, I rest my case.

    I can say that I’ve never finished any song to my liking. Not enough to actually say here is a finished song! I have lots of apps - are they all rubbish because I don’t complete song? No, of course not.

    I can however say, that I have got closer with BM3 than I ever have with any other app, but does that mean it’s better? No, of course not. It means it fits me now at this time.

    All this of course has no bearing on NS2 because it’s irrelevant to that app, the dev of that app or even if I should buy that app or not. NS2 will be ‘another thing’ - just as iMPC Pro2 or Auria or Cubasis etc etc. They are just apps and have little bearing on if I make good music or crap music....that is and will always be down to my own skills.

    Absolutely my point, as well. I haven't finished a track on my iPad either, because my workflow is different. I finish tracks in Cubase on my PC, because I record additional vocal tracks, guitar and synth tracks which I am unable to do on iPad, mainly because I have tons of stuff on my PC that I gotten used to over the years. Pro plugins mainly. That is not to say I cannot finish a track on my iPad using one or several apps. iOS musicmaking has been an important part of my workflow. And with every year, I do more and more stuff on my iPad and less stuff on my computer. Could I finish the entire track on my BM3 or NS? I could, of course, but my workflow is different, that's all. All that said, I might do a project that never leaves my iPad from the initial idea to completion, using my fav aps, because it can be done, and it can be done professionally.

    Agree. It seems like nothing more than chopping once’s own nose to spite ones face getting all pissy about apps and what does what. Yeah we discuss different technical aspects and opinions can help some find what they need, but these are just tools. Find the tool that works for yourself and use it.

    Evidencing statements regarding how apps are or can be used based on limited and personal biased ‘evidence’ is just incredibly self serving.

    But saying all this just continues to feed trolling behaviour and I really should know better than to do this :p

  • zhoezhoe

    @Fruitbat1919 said:

    @zhoe said:

    @Fruitbat1919 said:

    @zhoe said:

    @Love3quency said:
    Decided that there is some hypocrisy here. I get heat and accused of trolling and dissing, yet it’s ok for those that disagree with me to troll and diss me.

    Not my intention to create arguments here, just brutally honest discussions.

    I guess our mutual points are valid for better or for worse.

    Another contention I have is that it’s simply annoying how this forum is almost like the BM3 forum at times and that there is so much time discussing this app yet hardly any music is shared from it. There are so many other apps that could be focused on and understood better for our mutual benefit. And they just keep getting released.

    I’ve concluded that by me bringing up BM3 that I’m triggering even more long winded talk about it and will not get the results I need- iPhone version and evidence that people are crafting full songs with it.

    Apologies for any angst peeps

    I’ll end this here

    Peace

    A claim that it is ‘not your intention to create arguements’ is a false one in my opinion. You don’t seem to accept anything that has been argued here, and you keep going on about two things; BM3 being universal and asking people to share BM3 tracks. What about adressing your own starting points first: the fact NS2 won’t be universal either, and that you didn’t provide your own tracks fully made on NS2. That is how it works if one wants to be both polite and contentious, but also consistent with its own argument. You first say your name and then ask me what’s my name. But people here will not ask you to post your own songs, because this is the forum where we discuss tech apps’ stuff, specs, features, announcements etc. Ocassionaly, people will share their work, but this is not the forum for it, anyway, and as someone already said, people might feel reluctant to do it because it won’t be the right way to argue any technical point. Music taste is subjective anyway, and you have already admitted that you heard FINISHED songs on BM3 but that you didn’t like them. Since it is impossible to argue subjective issues, I rest my case.

    I can say that I’ve never finished any song to my liking. Not enough to actually say here is a finished song! I have lots of apps - are they all rubbish because I don’t complete song? No, of course not.

    I can however say, that I have got closer with BM3 than I ever have with any other app, but does that mean it’s better? No, of course not. It means it fits me now at this time.

    All this of course has no bearing on NS2 because it’s irrelevant to that app, the dev of that app or even if I should buy that app or not. NS2 will be ‘another thing’ - just as iMPC Pro2 or Auria or Cubasis etc etc. They are just apps and have little bearing on if I make good music or crap music....that is and will always be down to my own skills.

    Absolutely my point, as well. I haven't finished a track on my iPad either, because my workflow is different. I finish tracks in Cubase on my PC, because I record additional vocal tracks, guitar and synth tracks which I am unable to do on iPad, mainly because I have tons of stuff on my PC that I gotten used to over the years. Pro plugins mainly. That is not to say I cannot finish a track on my iPad using one or several apps. iOS musicmaking has been an important part of my workflow. And with every year, I do more and more stuff on my iPad and less stuff on my computer. Could I finish the entire track on my BM3 or NS? I could, of course, but my workflow is different, that's all. All that said, I might do a project that never leaves my iPad from the initial idea to completion, using my fav aps, because it can be done, and it can be done professionally.

    Agree. It seems like nothing more than chopping once’s own nose to spite ones face getting all pissy about apps and what does what. Yeah we discuss different technical aspects and opinions can help some find what they need, but these are just tools. Find the tool that works for yourself and use it.

    Evidencing statements regarding how apps are or can be used based on limited and personal biased ‘evidence’ is just incredibly self serving.

    But saying all this just continues to feed trolling behaviour and I really should know better than to do this :p

    Haha, true dat. :)

  • kitejankitejan

    @Love3quency said:
    The point is that it’s a pro music app and likely the most hyped one of all time

    Reluctance / inability to release decent tracks with it proves my points further

    Sorry

    Let’s hear some results of usage please, after all.. that’s what apps are for - results!

    The end product

    It's so subjective - but just about everything on my bandcamp page is Nanostudio. You can decide for yourself if anything counts as 'a decent track' - but to return the favour you have to feedback what you think and why you think that.

    https://acollectionofnotes.bandcamp.com/

    This whole "my DAW is better than your DAW" is a bit wearing :-)

  • JohnnyGoodyearJohnnyGoodyear

    Write songs. Use apps if you like.

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]

    @JohnnyGoodyear said:
    Write songs. Use apps if you like.

    Next week I may just write songs using spoons. Ok, maybe for one day before I break and go back to using apps ;)

  • zhoezhoe

    @Fruitbat1919 said:

    @JohnnyGoodyear said:
    Write songs. Use apps if you like.

    Next week I may just write songs using spoons. Ok, maybe for one day before I break and go back to using apps ;)

    Yes, but which spoons? Are they AU or IAA? I use forks, they are much better if you want to finish your tracks ;)

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]

    @zhoe said:

    @Fruitbat1919 said:

    @JohnnyGoodyear said:
    Write songs. Use apps if you like.

    Next week I may just write songs using spoons. Ok, maybe for one day before I break and go back to using apps ;)

    Yes, but which spoons? Are they AU or IAA? I use forks, they are much better if you want to finish your tracks ;)

    How about sporks? I had some of them for camping once, but have now gone back to separate spoons and forks....shame they are plastic and sound pants!

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]

    @BiancaNeve said:
    Nah, Apps are for collecting and discussing. Any music that falls out as a result is a pure bonus.

    Hah, lol. Sadly that is often true....not only for iOS apps of course.
    Anyway these days it´s all a bit washy. I see people still saying, look here is a track made 100% on iPad and then you see it was mastered somewhere else and half of the sound sources were imported from hardware and plug-ins.
    I agree, the result counts and maybe it´s better just not to mention any tool you used, otherwise you start a war >:)
    I mean i´m anyway maybe out of the run soon since i see my crack in the iPhone getting bigger each week :o
    I wish both, NS and BM3 big success so that there is good competition and they both earn enough money for further RnD.

  • gusgranitegusgranite

    @Fruitbat1919 said:

    @zhoe said:

    @Fruitbat1919 said:

    @JohnnyGoodyear said:
    Write songs. Use apps if you like.

    Next week I may just write songs using spoons. Ok, maybe for one day before I break and go back to using apps ;)

    Yes, but which spoons? Are they AU or IAA? I use forks, they are much better if you want to finish your tracks ;)

    How about sporks? I had some of them for camping once, but have now gone back to separate spoons and forks....shame they are plastic and sound pants!

    So weird... I made up a daft song about sporks that I sang to my boys while making pancakes, 10 minutes before reading this...

  • zhoezhoe

    @Fruitbat1919 said:

    @zhoe said:

    @Fruitbat1919 said:

    @JohnnyGoodyear said:
    Write songs. Use apps if you like.

    Next week I may just write songs using spoons. Ok, maybe for one day before I break and go back to using apps ;)

    Yes, but which spoons? Are they AU or IAA? I use forks, they are much better if you want to finish your tracks ;)

    How about sporks? I had some of them for camping once, but have now gone back to separate spoons and forks....shame they are plastic and sound pants!

    HAHAHA

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]

    @gusgranite said:

    @Fruitbat1919 said:

    @zhoe said:

    @Fruitbat1919 said:

    @JohnnyGoodyear said:
    Write songs. Use apps if you like.

    Next week I may just write songs using spoons. Ok, maybe for one day before I break and go back to using apps ;)

    Yes, but which spoons? Are they AU or IAA? I use forks, they are much better if you want to finish your tracks ;)

    How about sporks? I had some of them for camping once, but have now gone back to separate spoons and forks....shame they are plastic and sound pants!

    So weird... I made up a daft song about sporks that I sang to my boys while making pancakes, 10 minutes before reading this...

    It reminds me of that part of the film Worlds End:

    But is it a door? It doesn’t have a lintel, so is a window or a door? Maybe it’s a windoor?

  • zhoezhoe

    @gusgranite said:

    @Fruitbat1919 said:

    @zhoe said:

    @Fruitbat1919 said:

    @JohnnyGoodyear said:
    Write songs. Use apps if you like.

    Next week I may just write songs using spoons. Ok, maybe for one day before I break and go back to using apps ;)

    Yes, but which spoons? Are they AU or IAA? I use forks, they are much better if you want to finish your tracks ;)

    How about sporks? I had some of them for camping once, but have now gone back to separate spoons and forks....shame they are plastic and sound pants!

    So weird... I made up a daft song about sporks that I sang to my boys while making pancakes, 10 minutes before reading this...

    Spooky. God has visited this thread. I wonder which app "He" would prefer? Korg Gadget? :)

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]

    @zhoe said:

    @gusgranite said:

    @Fruitbat1919 said:

    @zhoe said:

    @Fruitbat1919 said:

    @JohnnyGoodyear said:
    Write songs. Use apps if you like.

    Next week I may just write songs using spoons. Ok, maybe for one day before I break and go back to using apps ;)

    Yes, but which spoons? Are they AU or IAA? I use forks, they are much better if you want to finish your tracks ;)

    How about sporks? I had some of them for camping once, but have now gone back to separate spoons and forks....shame they are plastic and sound pants!

    So weird... I made up a daft song about sporks that I sang to my boys while making pancakes, 10 minutes before reading this...

    Spooky. God has visited this thread. I wonder which app "He" would prefer? Korg Gadget? :)

    God is definitely a Mobius Lab user, judging by all the weird creations on this planet!

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]

    @Fruitbat1919 said:

    @zhoe said:

    @gusgranite said:

    @Fruitbat1919 said:

    @zhoe said:

    @Fruitbat1919 said:

    @JohnnyGoodyear said:
    Write songs. Use apps if you like.

    Next week I may just write songs using spoons. Ok, maybe for one day before I break and go back to using apps ;)

    Yes, but which spoons? Are they AU or IAA? I use forks, they are much better if you want to finish your tracks ;)

    How about sporks? I had some of them for camping once, but have now gone back to separate spoons and forks....shame they are plastic and sound pants!

    So weird... I made up a daft song about sporks that I sang to my boys while making pancakes, 10 minutes before reading this...

    Spooky. God has visited this thread. I wonder which app "He" would prefer? Korg Gadget? :)

    God is definitely a Mobius Lab user, judging by all the weird creations on this planet!

    And God says there is no final song, just an ongoing symphony ;)

  • zhoezhoe

    @kitejan said:

    @Love3quency said:
    The point is that it’s a pro music app and likely the most hyped one of all time

    Reluctance / inability to release decent tracks with it proves my points further

    Sorry

    Let’s hear some results of usage please, after all.. that’s what apps are for - results!

    The end product

    It's so subjective - but just about everything on my bandcamp page is Nanostudio. You can decide for yourself if anything counts as 'a decent track' - but to return the favour you have to feedback what you think and why you think that.

    https://acollectionofnotes.bandcamp.com/

    This whole "my DAW is better than your DAW" is a bit wearing :-)

    Good stuff you have on your bandcamp page, pleasant ambient vibe throughout.

  • zhoezhoe

    @Fruitbat1919 said:

    @Fruitbat1919 said:

    @zhoe said:

    @gusgranite said:

    @Fruitbat1919 said:

    @zhoe said:

    @Fruitbat1919 said:

    @JohnnyGoodyear said:
    Write songs. Use apps if you like.

    Next week I may just write songs using spoons. Ok, maybe for one day before I break and go back to using apps ;)

    Yes, but which spoons? Are they AU or IAA? I use forks, they are much better if you want to finish your tracks ;)

    How about sporks? I had some of them for camping once, but have now gone back to separate spoons and forks....shame they are plastic and sound pants!

    So weird... I made up a daft song about sporks that I sang to my boys while making pancakes, 10 minutes before reading this...

    Spooky. God has visited this thread. I wonder which app "He" would prefer? Korg Gadget? :)

    God is definitely a Mobius Lab user, judging by all the weird creations on this planet!

    And God says there is no final song, just an ongoing symphony ;)

    Haha, true, there is no such thing as "finished track"! :) I guess God loves all apps, that is why "he" developed Ableton link.

  • zhoezhoe

    This thread is coming to its Xmas spirit all-app loving conclusion :)

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]

    @zhoe said:
    This thread is coming to its Xmas spirit all-app loving conclusion :)

    :) o:) B) >:) :*

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]

    Mmmmm delicious plum pudding

  • reziduerezidue

    @Fruitbat1919 said:

    @zhoe said:
    This thread is coming to its Xmas spirit all-app loving conclusion :)

    :) o:) B) >:) :*

    Would be fun to pick an app a day to work in and have everyone submit their noodling.

  • PurpanPurpan

    @Fruitbat1919 said:

    @zhoe said:

    @Fruitbat1919 said:

    @JohnnyGoodyear said:
    Write songs. Use apps if you like.

    Next week I may just write songs using spoons. Ok, maybe for one day before I break and go back to using apps ;)

    Yes, but which spoons? Are they AU or IAA? I use forks, they are much better if you want to finish your tracks ;)

    How about sporks? I had some of them for camping once, but have now gone back to separate spoons and forks....shame they are plastic and sound pants!

    Sporks are the grooveboxes of cutlery.

  • zhoezhoe

    @rezidue said:

    @Fruitbat1919 said:

    @zhoe said:
    This thread is coming to its Xmas spirit all-app loving conclusion :)

    :) o:) B) >:) :*

    Would be fun to pick an app a day to work in and have everyone submit their noodling.

    Probably a good way to break the spell of appprocrastination (<--- I am trademarking this! ;)

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]

    @rezidue said:

    @Fruitbat1919 said:

    @zhoe said:
    This thread is coming to its Xmas spirit all-app loving conclusion :)

    :) o:) B) >:) :*

    Would be fun to pick an app a day to work in and have everyone submit their noodling.

    Or how about an hour session - post whatever comes out.

  • hansjbshansjbs

    Lol.

  • zhoezhoe

    @Purpan said:

    @Fruitbat1919 said:

    @zhoe said:

    @Fruitbat1919 said:

    @JohnnyGoodyear said:
    Write songs. Use apps if you like.

    Next week I may just write songs using spoons. Ok, maybe for one day before I break and go back to using apps ;)

    Yes, but which spoons? Are they AU or IAA? I use forks, they are much better if you want to finish your tracks ;)

    How about sporks? I had some of them for camping once, but have now gone back to separate spoons and forks....shame they are plastic and sound pants!

    Sporks are the grooveboxes of cutlery.

    HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

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