I think my iPad just died...

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@Korakios said:
@MonzoPro you could try checking the battery status health
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/battery-life-doctor/id1165930552?mt=8

The app has access to the raw data of the battery and check the health.
It has ads ,but it's free.
Don't know how accurate it is. On my second hand Air2 it shows 91% health . But I always treat it right ( meaning I keep charges from 30 to 80% whenever possible )

Thanks, I’ll try that today if it charges up.

@gonekrazy3000 said:
@MonzoPro do you have drc installed on this iPad ? If yes disable background running in the app. It consumes battery even if you literally never run it. Ios 11 broke that setting somehow.

I do have that, haven’t used it for months though.

If it charges up ok I’m going to have a big clear out of old apps on it. Spoke to a friend last night who had similar problems after updating to iOS 11, and he said a full factory reset has helped, so that’s a possible last resort.

@JohnnyGoodyear said:
@MonzoPro As your attorney I must advise you to cry like a baby and require a new shiny object for Christmas etc. Good luck.

We thought her mother was going to die yesterday (everything going really well here at the moment). She hung on, so the Mrs said ‘nobody died today so I’m happy, just get a new one’. I don’t think she’s seen the new prices though...

[Deleted User]

@MonzoPro said:
We thought her mother was going to die yesterday (everything going really well here at the moment). She hung on, so the Mrs said ‘nobody died today so I’m happy, just get a new one’. I don’t think she’s seen the new prices though...

>

Hang in there, Mr Monzo.

Also, when possible, treat yourselves kindly. The long goodbye is harsh. So any pluses you can generate yourselves will help, a little.

robosardine

Have you tried a hard reset? Back up your data to iCloud (or whatever you use). Do the hard reset- charge it up- then restore your data.
Good luck.

[Deleted User]

@MonzoPro said:

@Looping_Loddar said:
After charging your device you could try out an iOS update in recovery mode.

See: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201263

To get full security, that it works, do it two times in a row. That means: Again activating recovery mode and choosing update then.

Good luck!

Thanks, I’ll give that a shot.

@Fruitbat1919 said:

@MonzoPro said:

@skiphunt said:

@MonzoPro said:

@ecamburn said:
The toothpick method @ginandjuice linked to helped me in a similar situation. In my case it was an iphone and the lightning port was full of lint. Clearing out with a toothpick fixed it.

Yeah I had the same problem with my last iPhone.

I don’t understand how this lost its charge though, I’m sure there was nothing running.

There may be something going on with iOS11. I had about 85% charge one day about a week ago. Had it in a backpack all day and never got around to using it. When I got home it had dropped down to about 20%. I don't think I had anything running, but didn't check. Hasn't happened again so I wrote it off to maybe the magnet case thingy wasn't all the way closed or something. But, I've read reports of iOS11 battery draining.

That said, it was only that one time. My iPhone running iOS11 has held it's charge normally, and the iPad does now too. I should've checked to see if some rogue app was open and draining the battery, but I didn't think to check since I'd assumed it must've been the case magnet flap thing wasn't likely closed all the way in my pack.

Wouldn’t surprise me, batter life has been crap since I updated, and I had a weird black screen incident last week.

I’m still having IAA apps sucking up battery even after a restart should have killed their ghosts.

@rs2000 said:
Are you really sure no app was running in the background?
When my iPad is "dead" the next morning it's usually an app that stopped the iPad from sleeping and I just forgot to close. Last time it was Mr. AudioCopy who sucked Peter Lithium out of poor guy tablet.

I’m very OCD about closing apps, I always go through and make sure nothing is running. Perfectly possible though. Is there a way to ensure nothing is running?

@skiphunt said:

@MonzoPro said:

@skiphunt said:

@MonzoPro said:

@ecamburn said:
The toothpick method @ginandjuice linked to helped me in a similar situation. In my case it was an iphone and the lightning port was full of lint. Clearing out with a toothpick fixed it.

Yeah I had the same problem with my last iPhone.

I don’t understand how this lost its charge though, I’m sure there was nothing running.

There may be something going on with iOS11. I had about 85% charge one day about a week ago. Had it in a backpack all day and never got around to using it. When I got home it had dropped down to about 20%. I don't think I had anything running, but didn't check. Hasn't happened again so I wrote it off to maybe the magnet case thingy wasn't all the way closed or something. But, I've read reports of iOS11 battery draining.

That said, it was only that one time. My iPhone running iOS11 has held it's charge normally, and the iPad does now too. I should've checked to see if some rogue app was open and draining the battery, but I didn't think to check since I'd assumed it must've been the case magnet flap thing wasn't likely closed all the way in my pack.

Wouldn’t surprise me, batter life has been crap since I updated, and I had a weird black screen incident last week.

My experience with iOS11, battery, etc. has mostly been positive... but I have noticed weirdness here and there, and I vaguely remember having this "black screen" thing you mention. What I've been doing is basically, about once a week I'll do the home button, power button thing to clear memory, then do a hard reset. Just for good measure.

If there's been an iOS update, and I notice an app acting up... I'll delete and reinstall that app.

I don't code and I have no idea what goes into it, but I don't doubt iOS11 hasn't been the smooth transition for most that Apple would've preferred. It's WAAAY better now than when it first launched though. At least, that's been my experience.

Come to think of it, if you haven't done the memory clear, hard reset in awhile, might not be a bad thing to do as maybe there's something funky going on with the battery use/charging feedback from iOS? Couldn't hurt to cover that base too.

It’s up to 27% now, so I’m going to give it a thorough clear out tomorrow.

Thanks for the replies guys, your feedback has helped calm my nerves a bit.

I honestly think some apps are having even worse ghosting issues than usual under iOS 11. There is some talk of DRC, but I’m convinced some of the Korg apps are affected too. What this means exactly is not fully known yet, but seemingly some apps are ghosting (and taking battery life) without actually being started up by the user.

Now, I have no concrete proof of the above, but I have experienced battery drain, ghosting and high battery usage showing in settings that suggest to myself there may be something in this.

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@Zen210507 said:

@MonzoPro said:
We thought her mother was going to die yesterday (everything going really well here at the moment). She hung on, so the Mrs said ‘nobody died today so I’m happy, just get a new one’. I don’t think she’s seen the new prices though...

>

Hang in there, Mr Monzo.

Also, when possible, treat yourselves kindly. The long goodbye is harsh. So any pluses you can generate yourselves will help, a little.

Thanks mate. Difficult as she's refusing to go into hospital, which means her two kids, both a four hour round trip away, and local friends, are having to do a lot of the care stuff. Mrs Monzo has just headed off there now. Big strain on her, as Monzo Jnr is off the rails at the moment as well.

@robosardine said:
Have you tried a hard reset? Back up your data to iCloud (or whatever you use). Do the hard reset- charge it up- then restore your data.
Good luck.

Thanks, I'll try that.

@Korakios said:

@MonzoPro you could try checking the battery status health
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/battery-life-doctor/id1165930552?mt=8

The app has access to the raw data of the battery and check the health.
It has ads ,but it's free.
Don't know how accurate it is. On my second hand Air2 it shows 91% health . But I always treat it right ( meaning I keep charges from 30 to 80% whenever possible )

Just gave that a spin and it's saying 91% for mine as well.

Slowly charging this morning, up to 72% now, and it didn't lose charge last night when it was switched off.

I'm hoping a rogue app was running in the background last night and caused the battery to drain.

[Deleted User]

@Fruitbat1919 said:

@MonzoPro said:

@Looping_Loddar said:
After charging your device you could try out an iOS update in recovery mode.

See: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201263

To get full security, that it works, do it two times in a row. That means: Again activating recovery mode and choosing update then.

Good luck!

Thanks, I’ll give that a shot.

@Fruitbat1919 said:

@MonzoPro said:

@skiphunt said:

@MonzoPro said:

@ecamburn said:
The toothpick method @ginandjuice linked to helped me in a similar situation. In my case it was an iphone and the lightning port was full of lint. Clearing out with a toothpick fixed it.

Yeah I had the same problem with my last iPhone.

I don’t understand how this lost its charge though, I’m sure there was nothing running.

There may be something going on with iOS11. I had about 85% charge one day about a week ago. Had it in a backpack all day and never got around to using it. When I got home it had dropped down to about 20%. I don't think I had anything running, but didn't check. Hasn't happened again so I wrote it off to maybe the magnet case thingy wasn't all the way closed or something. But, I've read reports of iOS11 battery draining.

That said, it was only that one time. My iPhone running iOS11 has held it's charge normally, and the iPad does now too. I should've checked to see if some rogue app was open and draining the battery, but I didn't think to check since I'd assumed it must've been the case magnet flap thing wasn't likely closed all the way in my pack.

Wouldn’t surprise me, batter life has been crap since I updated, and I had a weird black screen incident last week.

I’m still having IAA apps sucking up battery even after a restart should have killed their ghosts.

@rs2000 said:
Are you really sure no app was running in the background?
When my iPad is "dead" the next morning it's usually an app that stopped the iPad from sleeping and I just forgot to close. Last time it was Mr. AudioCopy who sucked Peter Lithium out of poor guy tablet.

I’m very OCD about closing apps, I always go through and make sure nothing is running. Perfectly possible though. Is there a way to ensure nothing is running?

@skiphunt said:

@MonzoPro said:

@skiphunt said:

@MonzoPro said:

@ecamburn said:
The toothpick method @ginandjuice linked to helped me in a similar situation. In my case it was an iphone and the lightning port was full of lint. Clearing out with a toothpick fixed it.

Yeah I had the same problem with my last iPhone.

I don’t understand how this lost its charge though, I’m sure there was nothing running.

There may be something going on with iOS11. I had about 85% charge one day about a week ago. Had it in a backpack all day and never got around to using it. When I got home it had dropped down to about 20%. I don't think I had anything running, but didn't check. Hasn't happened again so I wrote it off to maybe the magnet case thingy wasn't all the way closed or something. But, I've read reports of iOS11 battery draining.

That said, it was only that one time. My iPhone running iOS11 has held it's charge normally, and the iPad does now too. I should've checked to see if some rogue app was open and draining the battery, but I didn't think to check since I'd assumed it must've been the case magnet flap thing wasn't likely closed all the way in my pack.

Wouldn’t surprise me, batter life has been crap since I updated, and I had a weird black screen incident last week.

My experience with iOS11, battery, etc. has mostly been positive... but I have noticed weirdness here and there, and I vaguely remember having this "black screen" thing you mention. What I've been doing is basically, about once a week I'll do the home button, power button thing to clear memory, then do a hard reset. Just for good measure.

If there's been an iOS update, and I notice an app acting up... I'll delete and reinstall that app.

I don't code and I have no idea what goes into it, but I don't doubt iOS11 hasn't been the smooth transition for most that Apple would've preferred. It's WAAAY better now than when it first launched though. At least, that's been my experience.

Come to think of it, if you haven't done the memory clear, hard reset in awhile, might not be a bad thing to do as maybe there's something funky going on with the battery use/charging feedback from iOS? Couldn't hurt to cover that base too.

It’s up to 27% now, so I’m going to give it a thorough clear out tomorrow.

Thanks for the replies guys, your feedback has helped calm my nerves a bit.

I honestly think some apps are having even worse ghosting issues than usual under iOS 11. There is some talk of DRC, but I’m convinced some of the Korg apps are affected too. What this means exactly is not fully known yet, but seemingly some apps are ghosting (and taking battery life) without actually being started up by the user.

Now, I have no concrete proof of the above, but I have experienced battery drain, ghosting and high battery usage showing in settings that suggest to myself there may be something in this.

What's the best way to check and kill them off if they are?

DeVlaeminck

Yes, exactly. That’s a very good question @MonzoPro

gonekrazy3000

@MonzoPro said:

@Fruitbat1919 said:

@MonzoPro said:

@Looping_Loddar said:
After charging your device you could try out an iOS update in recovery mode.

See: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201263

To get full security, that it works, do it two times in a row. That means: Again activating recovery mode and choosing update then.

Good luck!

Thanks, I’ll give that a shot.

@Fruitbat1919 said:

@MonzoPro said:

@skiphunt said:

@MonzoPro said:

@ecamburn said:
The toothpick method @ginandjuice linked to helped me in a similar situation. In my case it was an iphone and the lightning port was full of lint. Clearing out with a toothpick fixed it.

Yeah I had the same problem with my last iPhone.

I don’t understand how this lost its charge though, I’m sure there was nothing running.

There may be something going on with iOS11. I had about 85% charge one day about a week ago. Had it in a backpack all day and never got around to using it. When I got home it had dropped down to about 20%. I don't think I had anything running, but didn't check. Hasn't happened again so I wrote it off to maybe the magnet case thingy wasn't all the way closed or something. But, I've read reports of iOS11 battery draining.

That said, it was only that one time. My iPhone running iOS11 has held it's charge normally, and the iPad does now too. I should've checked to see if some rogue app was open and draining the battery, but I didn't think to check since I'd assumed it must've been the case magnet flap thing wasn't likely closed all the way in my pack.

Wouldn’t surprise me, batter life has been crap since I updated, and I had a weird black screen incident last week.

I’m still having IAA apps sucking up battery even after a restart should have killed their ghosts.

@rs2000 said:
Are you really sure no app was running in the background?
When my iPad is "dead" the next morning it's usually an app that stopped the iPad from sleeping and I just forgot to close. Last time it was Mr. AudioCopy who sucked Peter Lithium out of poor guy tablet.

I’m very OCD about closing apps, I always go through and make sure nothing is running. Perfectly possible though. Is there a way to ensure nothing is running?

@skiphunt said:

@MonzoPro said:

@skiphunt said:

@MonzoPro said:

@ecamburn said:
The toothpick method @ginandjuice linked to helped me in a similar situation. In my case it was an iphone and the lightning port was full of lint. Clearing out with a toothpick fixed it.

Yeah I had the same problem with my last iPhone.

I don’t understand how this lost its charge though, I’m sure there was nothing running.

There may be something going on with iOS11. I had about 85% charge one day about a week ago. Had it in a backpack all day and never got around to using it. When I got home it had dropped down to about 20%. I don't think I had anything running, but didn't check. Hasn't happened again so I wrote it off to maybe the magnet case thingy wasn't all the way closed or something. But, I've read reports of iOS11 battery draining.

That said, it was only that one time. My iPhone running iOS11 has held it's charge normally, and the iPad does now too. I should've checked to see if some rogue app was open and draining the battery, but I didn't think to check since I'd assumed it must've been the case magnet flap thing wasn't likely closed all the way in my pack.

Wouldn’t surprise me, batter life has been crap since I updated, and I had a weird black screen incident last week.

My experience with iOS11, battery, etc. has mostly been positive... but I have noticed weirdness here and there, and I vaguely remember having this "black screen" thing you mention. What I've been doing is basically, about once a week I'll do the home button, power button thing to clear memory, then do a hard reset. Just for good measure.

If there's been an iOS update, and I notice an app acting up... I'll delete and reinstall that app.

I don't code and I have no idea what goes into it, but I don't doubt iOS11 hasn't been the smooth transition for most that Apple would've preferred. It's WAAAY better now than when it first launched though. At least, that's been my experience.

Come to think of it, if you haven't done the memory clear, hard reset in awhile, might not be a bad thing to do as maybe there's something funky going on with the battery use/charging feedback from iOS? Couldn't hurt to cover that base too.

It’s up to 27% now, so I’m going to give it a thorough clear out tomorrow.

Thanks for the replies guys, your feedback has helped calm my nerves a bit.

I honestly think some apps are having even worse ghosting issues than usual under iOS 11. There is some talk of DRC, but I’m convinced some of the Korg apps are affected too. What this means exactly is not fully known yet, but seemingly some apps are ghosting (and taking battery life) without actually being started up by the user.

Now, I have no concrete proof of the above, but I have experienced battery drain, ghosting and high battery usage showing in settings that suggest to myself there may be something in this.

What's the best way to check and kill them off if they are?

Do you regularly do the kill ghost app trick ?
Press and hold the power button till "slide to switch off comes". Then release power button. Press and hold home button till you get thrown back to the home screen. Also. Disable drcs background running. Even if you haven't used it in months it seems to bug out in ios11. Switching that off fixes that bug.

[Deleted User]

@MonzoPro said:

@Fruitbat1919 said:

@MonzoPro said:

@Looping_Loddar said:
After charging your device you could try out an iOS update in recovery mode.

See: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201263

To get full security, that it works, do it two times in a row. That means: Again activating recovery mode and choosing update then.

Good luck!

Thanks, I’ll give that a shot.

@Fruitbat1919 said:

@MonzoPro said:

@skiphunt said:

@MonzoPro said:

@ecamburn said:
The toothpick method @ginandjuice linked to helped me in a similar situation. In my case it was an iphone and the lightning port was full of lint. Clearing out with a toothpick fixed it.

Yeah I had the same problem with my last iPhone.

I don’t understand how this lost its charge though, I’m sure there was nothing running.

There may be something going on with iOS11. I had about 85% charge one day about a week ago. Had it in a backpack all day and never got around to using it. When I got home it had dropped down to about 20%. I don't think I had anything running, but didn't check. Hasn't happened again so I wrote it off to maybe the magnet case thingy wasn't all the way closed or something. But, I've read reports of iOS11 battery draining.

That said, it was only that one time. My iPhone running iOS11 has held it's charge normally, and the iPad does now too. I should've checked to see if some rogue app was open and draining the battery, but I didn't think to check since I'd assumed it must've been the case magnet flap thing wasn't likely closed all the way in my pack.

Wouldn’t surprise me, batter life has been crap since I updated, and I had a weird black screen incident last week.

I’m still having IAA apps sucking up battery even after a restart should have killed their ghosts.

@rs2000 said:
Are you really sure no app was running in the background?
When my iPad is "dead" the next morning it's usually an app that stopped the iPad from sleeping and I just forgot to close. Last time it was Mr. AudioCopy who sucked Peter Lithium out of poor guy tablet.

I’m very OCD about closing apps, I always go through and make sure nothing is running. Perfectly possible though. Is there a way to ensure nothing is running?

@skiphunt said:

@MonzoPro said:

@skiphunt said:

@MonzoPro said:

@ecamburn said:
The toothpick method @ginandjuice linked to helped me in a similar situation. In my case it was an iphone and the lightning port was full of lint. Clearing out with a toothpick fixed it.

Yeah I had the same problem with my last iPhone.

I don’t understand how this lost its charge though, I’m sure there was nothing running.

There may be something going on with iOS11. I had about 85% charge one day about a week ago. Had it in a backpack all day and never got around to using it. When I got home it had dropped down to about 20%. I don't think I had anything running, but didn't check. Hasn't happened again so I wrote it off to maybe the magnet case thingy wasn't all the way closed or something. But, I've read reports of iOS11 battery draining.

That said, it was only that one time. My iPhone running iOS11 has held it's charge normally, and the iPad does now too. I should've checked to see if some rogue app was open and draining the battery, but I didn't think to check since I'd assumed it must've been the case magnet flap thing wasn't likely closed all the way in my pack.

Wouldn’t surprise me, batter life has been crap since I updated, and I had a weird black screen incident last week.

My experience with iOS11, battery, etc. has mostly been positive... but I have noticed weirdness here and there, and I vaguely remember having this "black screen" thing you mention. What I've been doing is basically, about once a week I'll do the home button, power button thing to clear memory, then do a hard reset. Just for good measure.

If there's been an iOS update, and I notice an app acting up... I'll delete and reinstall that app.

I don't code and I have no idea what goes into it, but I don't doubt iOS11 hasn't been the smooth transition for most that Apple would've preferred. It's WAAAY better now than when it first launched though. At least, that's been my experience.

Come to think of it, if you haven't done the memory clear, hard reset in awhile, might not be a bad thing to do as maybe there's something funky going on with the battery use/charging feedback from iOS? Couldn't hurt to cover that base too.

It’s up to 27% now, so I’m going to give it a thorough clear out tomorrow.

Thanks for the replies guys, your feedback has helped calm my nerves a bit.

I honestly think some apps are having even worse ghosting issues than usual under iOS 11. There is some talk of DRC, but I’m convinced some of the Korg apps are affected too. What this means exactly is not fully known yet, but seemingly some apps are ghosting (and taking battery life) without actually being started up by the user.

Now, I have no concrete proof of the above, but I have experienced battery drain, ghosting and high battery usage showing in settings that suggest to myself there may be something in this.

What's the best way to check and kill them off if they are?

For a normal ghost, it’s restart your iPad. For DRC people are saying you need to switch off background audio in the app. For others I’m not sure, because some of it is guess work that some apps are actually having problems. I’m guessing it’s more than DRC that’s been effected by iOS 11. Why? Just because I keep my eye on what apps are showing in the battery use percentage and some I know I’ve not used anywhere near enough for the background use they are showing!. Obviously it could be that other problems exist.

SpookyZoo

I just realised a connection here.

My iPhone has been emptying Crazy fast the past few weeks. Found out I could list apps using the battery in settings and an app I wasn't even using in the background (think I opened and closed after a couple of minutes) was the midi controller app LK.

Developed by Imaginando.

The same developers as DRC.

So it looks like they have a fundamental issue with battery usage across their code.

I believe the dev was active here previously. Anybody remember his handle?

I'll post to their support address as well.

[Deleted User]

@SpookyZoo said:
I just realised a connection here.

My iPhone has been emptying Crazy fast the past few weeks. Found out I could list apps using the battery in settings and an app I wasn't even using in the background (think I opened and closed after a couple of minutes) was the midi controller app LK.

Developed by Imaginado.

The same developers as DRC.

So it looks like they have a fundamental issue with battery usage across their code.

I believe the dev was active here previously. Anybody remember his handle?

I'll post to their support address as well.

@sinosoidal I think

[Deleted User]

@Fruitbat1919 said:

@SpookyZoo said:
I just realised a connection here.

My iPhone has been emptying Crazy fast the past few weeks. Found out I could list apps using the battery in settings and an app I wasn't even using in the background (think I opened and closed after a couple of minutes) was the midi controller app LK.

Developed by Imaginado.

The same developers as DRC.

So it looks like they have a fundamental issue with battery usage across their code.

I believe the dev was active here previously. Anybody remember his handle?

I'll post to their support address as well.

@sinosoidal I think

Just to add, I’m really convinced it’s more than just their apps that have a problem since iOS 11.

supadom

Once you've gotten off the ground with the battery you plug it into your desktop and download a program called ibackup bot. I have it on a mac but if you have a windows machine I'd be surprised if there wasn't a version for that too. In the program there is a button 'more information' that will display your battery cycles and current capacity compared to normal. This might give you an idea whether you battery needs replacing or you need to look for the cause elsewhere.

knewspeak

@Fruitbat1919 said:

@Fruitbat1919 said:

@SpookyZoo said:
I just realised a connection here.

My iPhone has been emptying Crazy fast the past few weeks. Found out I could list apps using the battery in settings and an app I wasn't even using in the background (think I opened and closed after a couple of minutes) was the midi controller app LK.

Developed by Imaginado.

The same developers as DRC.

So it looks like they have a fundamental issue with battery usage across their code.

I believe the dev was active here previously. Anybody remember his handle?

I'll post to their support address as well.

@sinosoidal I think

Just to add, I’m really convinced it’s more than just their apps that have a problem since iOS 11.

My new 10.5 iPad keeps losing it's charge, until it displays the out of charge icon, it didn't happen after the initial iOS 11 update, but it started after one of the incremental updates to 11. It also runs down the battery faster under normal use too.

[Deleted User]

@knewspeak said:

@Fruitbat1919 said:

@Fruitbat1919 said:

@SpookyZoo said:
I just realised a connection here.

My iPhone has been emptying Crazy fast the past few weeks. Found out I could list apps using the battery in settings and an app I wasn't even using in the background (think I opened and closed after a couple of minutes) was the midi controller app LK.

Developed by Imaginado.

The same developers as DRC.

So it looks like they have a fundamental issue with battery usage across their code.

I believe the dev was active here previously. Anybody remember his handle?

I'll post to their support address as well.

@sinosoidal I think

Just to add, I’m really convinced it’s more than just their apps that have a problem since iOS 11.

My new 10.5 iPad keeps losing it's charge, until it displays the out of charge icon, it didn't happen after the initial iOS 11 update, but it started after one of the incremental updates to 11. It also runs down the battery faster under normal use too.

Yeah I didn’t notice the problem after the very first iOS 11 update.

Keep in mind, I’m not saying this is the problem @MonzoPro has encountered. It might be though.

supadom

@knewspeak said:

@Fruitbat1919 said:

@Fruitbat1919 said:

@SpookyZoo said:
I just realised a connection here.

My iPhone has been emptying Crazy fast the past few weeks. Found out I could list apps using the battery in settings and an app I wasn't even using in the background (think I opened and closed after a couple of minutes) was the midi controller app LK.

Developed by Imaginado.

The same developers as DRC.

So it looks like they have a fundamental issue with battery usage across their code.

I believe the dev was active here previously. Anybody remember his handle?

I'll post to their support address as well.

@sinosoidal I think

Just to add, I’m really convinced it’s more than just their apps that have a problem since iOS 11.

My new 10.5 iPad keeps losing it's charge, until it displays the out of charge icon, it didn't happen after the initial iOS 11 update, but it started after one of the incremental updates to 11. It also runs down the battery faster under normal use too.

This is possibly the only reason why I'm hesitant to update my 10.5 to 11 but I know the moment of weakness will come and I'll update it in a flash. Damn human weaknesses!

knewspeak

@Fruitbat1919 said:

@knewspeak said:

@Fruitbat1919 said:

@Fruitbat1919 said:

@SpookyZoo said:
I just realised a connection here.

My iPhone has been emptying Crazy fast the past few weeks. Found out I could list apps using the battery in settings and an app I wasn't even using in the background (think I opened and closed after a couple of minutes) was the midi controller app LK.

Developed by Imaginado.

The same developers as DRC.

So it looks like they have a fundamental issue with battery usage across their code.

I believe the dev was active here previously. Anybody remember his handle?

I'll post to their support address as well.

@sinosoidal I think

Just to add, I’m really convinced it’s more than just their apps that have a problem since iOS 11.

My new 10.5 iPad keeps losing it's charge, until it displays the out of charge icon, it didn't happen after the initial iOS 11 update, but it started after one of the incremental updates to 11. It also runs down the battery faster under normal use too.

Yeah I didn’t notice the problem after the very first iOS 11 update.

Keep in mind, I’m not saying this is the problem @MonzoPro has encountered. It might be though.

I didn't even notice the battery drain upto and including the beta version that fixed the audio glitch bug that was plaguing the new pros.

SpookyZoo

@Fruitbat1919 said:

@SpookyZoo said:
I just realised a connection here.

My iPhone has been emptying Crazy fast the past few weeks. Found out I could list apps using the battery in settings and an app I wasn't even using in the background (think I opened and closed after a couple of minutes) was the midi controller app LK.

Developed by Imaginado.

The same developers as DRC.

So it looks like they have a fundamental issue with battery usage across their code.

I believe the dev was active here previously. Anybody remember his handle?

I'll post to their support address as well.

@sinosoidal I think

Thanks @Fruitbat1919 .

I got a super quick reply from the developer. Nuno is keen to find any common link that will help debug the DRC /LK app battery issues.

I contacted him via this form... https://www.imaginando.pt/contact-us

Hope your iPad is up and running well now @MonzoPro

Masanga

Just to say the obvious (I know most people in this thread are taking it as read), the Battery item in the Settings app will try to tell you what's been draining the battery most over the past over the past day or week and what's been running in the background. One very useful thing it picks up is apps that you launch as AU in AUM or another host, which sometimes continue to run in the background after you've quit everything. You need to reopen these in standalone and then quit them. It's not all apps, but iFretless Guitar is one I get this with a lot.

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@gonekrazy3000 said:

Do you regularly do the kill ghost app trick ?
Press and hold the power button till "slide to switch off comes". Then release power button. Press and hold home button till you get thrown back to the home screen.

I don't, so I'll use that thanks. I power off completely at the end of each day, but sounds like I need to do the above before putting it into sleep mode as well.

@Fruitbat1919 said:

For DRC people are saying you need to switch off background audio in the app. For others I’m not sure, because some of it is guess work that some apps are actually having problems. I’m guessing it’s more than DRC that’s been effected by iOS 11.

I've deleted that one, and a few others I haven't been using just in case.

@supadom said:
Once you've gotten off the ground with the battery you plug it into your desktop and download a program called ibackup bot. I have it on a mac but if you have a windows machine I'd be surprised if there wasn't a version for that too. In the program there is a button 'more information' that will display your battery cycles and current capacity compared to normal. This might give you an idea whether you battery needs replacing or you need to look for the cause elsewhere.

Thanks, I'll have a look.

@Masanga said:
Just to say the obvious (I know most people in this thread are taking it as read), the Battery item in the Settings app will try to tell you what's been draining the battery most over the past over the past day or week and what's been running in the background. One very useful thing it picks up is apps that you launch as AU in AUM or another host, which sometimes continue to run in the background after you've quit everything. You need to reopen these in standalone and then quit them. It's not all apps, but iFretless Guitar is one I get this with a lot.

Before putting it into sleep mode, I'd been using AUM with a few AU's, including Reslice. I'm wondering now if one of those could be the culprit. I closed everything down but maybe one was hanging about in the background. I'll use the 'kill ghost app trick' from now on after every AUM session.

@SpookyZoo said:

I contacted him via this form... https://www.imaginando.pt/contact-us

Hope your iPad is up and running well now @MonzoPro

Thank you, and thanks to everyone else who's commented.

I charged the iPad to 100%, and it seems to be holding. I've removed a bunch of unused apps including DRC, and I'll try and reset after each AUM session from now on to see if that helps. The battery test app says my battery is at 90% capacity - so that's good I guess. I'm hoping this was a ghost app drain, though with the black screen and other issues I've been having with it recently, it might not be the case. Time will tell I guess...

RUST( i )K

@Carnbot said:
I get this on my Air 2 sometimes but it does eventually come back from the dead. It usually just needs a lengthy charging session. My Air 2 battery is depleting pretty quickly these days.

My Air 2 battery has had 581 charge cycles.

My Air 2 might as well need to stay plugged in at this point.

Air 1 still holds charge like a champ.

iPhone 7 plus - normal usage except when lately post iOS 11 it will just drain. Who knows why?

iPhone 4 holds charge better than all of them............LOL

RUST( i )K

@gonekrazy3000 said:
@MonzoPro do you have drc installed on this iPad ? If yes disable background running in the app. It consumes battery even if you literally never run it. Ios 11 broke that setting somehow.

If it wasn't for Odessa I would never had stuck with iOS 10

Air 1 runs smoother with iOS 10 than Air2 con 11

brambos

As a matter of experiment of fully charged my 1 year old Air 2 yesterday morning (around 23 hours ago) and put it on a shelf. Just had a look and it's still reporting 100% (and this was with Wifi/BT enabled, not in flight mode).

Of course this only says something about my particular device (and there seems to be a lot of variability out there, especially when it comes to battery health), but it shows that it is possible to set up iOS11 on an Air 2 without excessive or unusual (or even measurable) drain.

This device has a ton of IAA apps installed (not DRC though).

RUST( i )K

@brambos said:
As a matter of experiment of fully charged my 1 year old Air 2 yesterday morning (around 23 hours ago) and put it on a shelf. Just had a look and it's still reporting 100% (and this was with Wifi/BT enabled, not in flight mode).

Of course this only says something about my particular device (and there seems to be a lot of variability out there, especially when it comes to battery health), but it shows that it is possible to set up iOS11 on an Air 2 without excessive or unusual (or even measurable) drain.

This device has a ton of IAA apps installed (not DRC though).

(not DRC though)

brambos

@RUST( i )K said:

This device has a ton of IAA apps installed (not DRC though).

(not DRC though)

To clarify: DRC has recently been the subject of debate about background battery drain. I'd be really surprised if there is something Imaginando can do about it (sounds like it's the unfortunate victim of an iOS issue) but thought I'd mention it for completeness' sake.

supadom

I've just looked through all my apps in settings and quite a few had background refresh on. All off now.

RUST( i )K

@brambos said:

@RUST( i )K said:

This device has a ton of IAA apps installed (not DRC though).

(not DRC though)

To clarify: DRC has recently been the subject of debate about background battery drain. I'd be really surprised if there is something Imaginando can do about it (sounds like it's the unfortunate victim of an iOS issue) but thought I'd mention it for completeness' sake.

I know bro, just bustin balls.

I didn't know until now.

So, maybe I am a victim.

Oh no.

I am now a "ME TOO"

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@brambos said:
As a matter of experiment of fully charged my 1 year old Air 2 yesterday morning (around 23 hours ago) and put it on a shelf. Just had a look and it's still reporting 100% (and this was with Wifi/BT enabled, not in flight mode).

I guess the age of the device has a factor to play in all this. Didn't realise I'd had mine as long as this, but just checked and next March it will be three years old. My hunch is that iOS11 is putting an extra strain on batteries, and whereas newer devices are able to cope, older one's are struggling. Just a hunch, but it'd be interesting to see if others with issues are on older machines. No issues whatsoever on 10x with mine, but lots of problems since the update.

Saying all that though, I gave it a full charge this morning - it's been on the shelf, wifi enabled and it's still on 100%.

So maybe there's been a rogue app in the background draining it. I removed DRC and a few other oldies...who knows, maybe they caused the issue and it'll hold a charge better now. I'll find out when I run a few apps later.

SpookyZoo

@MonzoPro said:

@brambos said:
As a matter of experiment of fully charged my 1 year old Air 2 yesterday morning (around 23 hours ago) and put it on a shelf. Just had a look and it's still reporting 100% (and this was with Wifi/BT enabled, not in flight mode).

I guess the age of the device has a factor to play in all this. Didn't realise I'd had mine as long as this, but just checked and next March it will be three years old. My hunch is that iOS11 is putting an extra strain on batteries, and whereas newer devices are able to cope, older one's are struggling. Just a hunch, but it'd be interesting to see if others with issues are on older machines. No issues whatsoever on 10x with mine, but lots of problems since the update.

Saying all that though, I gave it a full charge this morning - it's been on the shelf, wifi enabled and it's still on 100%.

So maybe there's been a rogue app in the background draining it. I removed DRC and a few other oldies...who knows, maybe they caused the issue and it'll hold a charge better now. I'll find out when I run a few apps later.

Just checking (not read back on all of thread) but did you check the apps usage in battery from settings?

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@SpookyZoo said:

@MonzoPro said:

@brambos said:
As a matter of experiment of fully charged my 1 year old Air 2 yesterday morning (around 23 hours ago) and put it on a shelf. Just had a look and it's still reporting 100% (and this was with Wifi/BT enabled, not in flight mode).

I guess the age of the device has a factor to play in all this. Didn't realise I'd had mine as long as this, but just checked and next March it will be three years old. My hunch is that iOS11 is putting an extra strain on batteries, and whereas newer devices are able to cope, older one's are struggling. Just a hunch, but it'd be interesting to see if others with issues are on older machines. No issues whatsoever on 10x with mine, but lots of problems since the update.

Saying all that though, I gave it a full charge this morning - it's been on the shelf, wifi enabled and it's still on 100%.

So maybe there's been a rogue app in the background draining it. I removed DRC and a few other oldies...who knows, maybe they caused the issue and it'll hold a charge better now. I'll find out when I run a few apps later.

Just checking (not read back on all of thread) but did you check the apps usage in battery from settings?

I did a hard reset when it went blank, to see if that would wake it, so I lost any details of those unfortunately. I’ll be keeping an eye on it now though.