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I think my iPad just died...

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  • Ah yeah, gotcha.

  • @MonzoPro said:
    My hunch is that iOS11 is putting an extra strain on batteries, and whereas newer devices are able to cope, older one's are struggling.

    >

    Well, Mrs Zen’s Air 2 was fine and dandy, and seemed to be okay with IOS 11.

    Then we had what the consensus believes was a battery issue, which made the bottom right edge almost too hot to touch. One hard reboot later, and the touch screen no longer works. We suspect something internal got fried. An Apple advisor said it may be a known fault.

    When connected to a Mac, the Air 2 reported that it had been updated, but of course we can do nothing with it as the damn thing wants the code input. I can’t even turn it off, as that too requires a working touch screen.

    So, I’m keeping it and the also faulty iPad Mini 2 (running IOS 10) charged, with the thought to getting to an Apple Store ‘Genius’ bar sometime early in 2018...all things, especially health, permitting.

  • hmm. i'm not going to uninstall DRC. not unless there is some actual evidence, or if i actually ever encounter a zombie.
    feel a bit sorry for the devs- it's just speculation. i love the synth.
    Mr DRC and the Moog brothers :)

  • edited December 2017

    @Zen210507 said:

    @MonzoPro said:
    My hunch is that iOS11 is putting an extra strain on batteries, and whereas newer devices are able to cope, older one's are struggling.

    >

    Well, Mrs Zen’s Air 2 was fine and dandy, and seemed to be okay with IOS 11.

    Then we had what the consensus believes was a battery issue, which made the bottom right edge almost too hot to touch. One hard reboot later, and the touch screen no longer works. We suspect something internal got fried. An Apple advisor said it may be a known fault.

    When connected to a Mac, the Air 2 reported that it had been updated, but of course we can do nothing with it as the damn thing wants the code input. I can’t even turn it off, as that too requires a working touch screen.

    So, I’m keeping it and the also faulty iPad Mini 2 (running IOS 10) charged, with the thought to getting to an Apple Store ‘Genius’ bar sometime early in 2018...all things, especially health, permitting.

    Yeah we’re a four hour round trip from the nearest Apple store, and as my Air 2 over two years old I’d have to pay for repairs anyway. I’ve had the heat thing too.

    Now I know it’s nearly 3 years old I can appreciate it’s struggling a bit, so maybe I’ll go a bit easier on it, and I don’t want any fry-ups. I’ll have to save up for a new one for next year.

  • edited December 2017

    @mrcanister said:
    hmm. i'm not going to uninstall DRC. not unless there is some actual evidence, or if i actually ever encounter a zombie.
    feel a bit sorry for the devs- it's just speculation. i love the synth.
    Mr DRC and the Moog brothers :)

    The devs, Imaginando are keen to hear any feedback https://www.imaginando.pt/contact-us

  • @MonzoPro said:

    @brambos said:
    As a matter of experiment of fully charged my 1 year old Air 2 yesterday morning (around 23 hours ago) and put it on a shelf. Just had a look and it's still reporting 100% (and this was with Wifi/BT enabled, not in flight mode).

    I guess the age of the device has a factor to play in all this. Didn't realise I'd had mine as long as this, but just checked and next March it will be three years old. My hunch is that iOS11 is putting an extra strain on batteries, and whereas newer devices are able to cope, older one's are struggling. Just a hunch, but it'd be interesting to see if others with issues are on older machines. No issues whatsoever on 10x with mine, but lots of problems since the update.

    Saying all that though, I gave it a full charge this morning - it's been on the shelf, wifi enabled and it's still on 100%.

    So maybe there's been a rogue app in the background draining it. I removed DRC and a few other oldies...who knows, maybe they caused the issue and it'll hold a charge better now. I'll find out when I run a few apps later.

    My device is 3 years old as well though... And I have drc installed. Just disabling background running stopped it's battery issues. Wasn't a need to delete it really...

  • @SpookyZoo said:

    @mrcanister said:
    hmm. i'm not going to uninstall DRC. not unless there is some actual evidence, or if i actually ever encounter a zombie.
    feel a bit sorry for the devs- it's just speculation. i love the synth.
    Mr DRC and the Moog brothers :)

    The devs, Imaginado are keen to hear any feedback https://www.imaginando.pt/contact-us

    love your app. no zombies here. could you do a vid using the modulation matrix. thanks

    sent

  • @MonzoPro said:
    ...as my Air 2 over two years old I’d have to pay for repairs

    >

    FWIW, the chap I spoke to - unusually helpful for an Apple employee - suggested that the heat issue might be a known fault. In which case, repair would be free even though our Air 2, like yours, is well out of warranty.

  • edited December 2017

    @mrcanister said:

    @SpookyZoo said:

    @mrcanister said:
    hmm. i'm not going to uninstall DRC. not unless there is some actual evidence, or if i actually ever encounter a zombie.
    feel a bit sorry for the devs- it's just speculation. i love the synth.
    Mr DRC and the Moog brothers :)

    The devs, Imaginado are keen to hear any feedback https://www.imaginando.pt/contact-us

    love your app. no zombies here. could you do a vid using the modulation matrix. thanks

    sent

    Hiya, I'm not the dev but you can certainly contact them at the link below with that request.

    https://www.imaginando.pt/contact-us

  • @Zen210507 said:

    @MonzoPro said:
    ...as my Air 2 over two years old I’d have to pay for repairs

    >

    FWIW, the chap I spoke to - unusually helpful for an Apple employee - suggested that the heat issue might be a known fault. In which case, repair would be free even though our Air 2, like yours, is well out of warranty.

    Ah right, nice to know.

    I’m going to dive into BM3 tonight if all’s well, see how it copes with that.

  • That is interesting. Seems it might stop the devices cutting out - maybe that’s what happened to mine the other night when it black screened.

  • edited December 2017

    I’ve had screen bleed along one of the edges of my iPad mini 2 for over a year, luckily it hasn’t gotten worse. It was a known issue with the screens and I was an early purchaser of this iPad. Things are aging gracefully so far. Getting that itch to upgrade some time in the future but as to when and what remains to be seen

  • edited December 2017

    thanks @SpookyZoo
    that was the message i sent them.
    ios vids are better than tv :)

  • Sorry for your loss brother

  • edited December 2017

    My last IPad has been the one I had the longest, some 2 and a half years. Since most of us are power users I'd say sell when approaching 3 years or things will start going wrong. If these (ios 11) battery problems persist I'd say even before 2 years. The bummer is that batteries don't like heat so keeping an IPad for too long while using CPU intensive apps (Gadget) is a bit of a suicide.

  • @MonzoPro said:

    That is interesting. Seems it might stop the devices cutting out - maybe that’s what happened to mine the other night when it black screened.

    I suppose it is a bit different.

    When iOS detects low voltage for your iOS device (charging is 2 percent or lower), then there is a bunch of reaction of the iOS:

    • CPU throttling
    • slow downs (!) charging

    This is done to save battery life and to prevent the degrading of the battery.

    The guardian article is about a different behavior. The trigger factor for this is a depleted battery, that means, your battery is degraded, below 80 percent capacity - and iOS produces a "bad battery" message.

    You can check remaining capacity with this free tool:

    https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/battery-life-check-runtimes/id1080930585?mt=8

    (click in this tool to "battery raw data")

  • edited December 2017

    @supadom said:
    My last IPad has been the one I had the longest, some 2 and a half years. Since most of us are power users I'd say sell when approaching 3 years or things will start going wrong. If these (ios 11) battery problems persist I'd say even before 2 years. The bummer is that batteries don't like heat so keeping an IPad for too long while using CPU intensive apps (Gadget) is a bit of a suicide.

    Yeah, I've been avoiding doing that, as soon as it gets warm I give it a rest.

    @Looping_Loddar said:

    @MonzoPro said:

    That is interesting. Seems it might stop the devices cutting out - maybe that’s what happened to mine the other night when it black screened.

    I suppose it is a bit different.

    When iOS detects low voltage for your iOS device (charging is 2 percent or lower), then there is a bunch of reaction of the iOS:

    • CPU throttling
    • slow downs (!) charging

    This is done to save battery life and to prevent the degrading of the battery.

    The guardian article is about a different behavior. The trigger factor for this is a depleted battery, that means, your battery is degraded, below 80 percent capacity - and iOS produces a "bad battery" message.

    You can check remaining capacity with this free tool:

    https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/battery-life-check-runtimes/id1080930585?mt=8

    (click in this tool to "battery raw data")

    I never let my iPad go below 20%.

    I checked my battery capacity with that one, and it tole me it's 90%...which is good I presume?

    @MeatWalrus said:
    Sorry for your loss brother

    Thanks, I 'think' it's ok though. Charged it fully this morning and it's still at 100% (haven't used it, but it's been switched on). So looks like the scary battery drain from 35% to 0% was either a glitch or rogue 'ghost' app. Will know more when I use the iPad properly later, but the fact it's held its charge all day suggests it's ok.

  • @MonzoPro said:

    You can check remaining capacity with this free tool:

    https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/battery-life-check-runtimes/id1080930585?mt=8

    (click in this tool to "battery raw data")

    I never let my iPad go below 20%.

    I checked my battery capacity with that one, and it tole me it's 90%...which is good I presume?

    >
    Usually new iPads have a capacity of 104 percent (up to 107 percent if you have some luck). With 80 percent your battery is degraded and the degrade process will speed up then. Usually it takes about 3 years of (medium!) usage to get a degraded battery (with 80 percent or less remaining battery capacity).

    90 percent isn't bad if you have used your iPad very much for some years. And yes, it is a very good idea not to go below 20 percent charge (at least not for a long time!) - this helps you to get longer battery life. It helps with a factor 2 or even 3!

    I would assume that your battery will remain OK for about 1 and a half year - and then it is a good idea to sell your iPad to someone who does not use he iPad for music production or games...

    ;-)

  • @MonzoPro said:

    @Zen210507 said:

    @MonzoPro said:
    ...as my Air 2 over two years old I’d have to pay for repairs

    >

    FWIW, the chap I spoke to - unusually helpful for an Apple employee - suggested that the heat issue might be a known fault. In which case, repair would be free even though our Air 2, like yours, is well out of warranty.

    Ah right, nice to know.

    I’m going to dive into BM3 tonight if all’s well, see how it copes with that.

    I received a new iPad Air 2 128 gb replacement for the cost of the battery ($99) after the Appple Store determined the battery had swollen and the screen had popped loose from the aluminum housing on one side. Previous to this, the iPad had been heating up and this was all just before iOS 11 arrived. The replacement iPad Air 2 doesn’t have the heat issues the original one had.

  • @Looping_Loddar said:

    @MonzoPro said:

    You can check remaining capacity with this free tool:

    https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/battery-life-check-runtimes/id1080930585?mt=8

    (click in this tool to "battery raw data")

    I never let my iPad go below 20%.

    I checked my battery capacity with that one, and it tole me it's 90%...which is good I presume?

    >
    Usually new iPads have a capacity of 104 percent (up to 107 percent if you have some luck). With 80 percent your battery is degraded and the degrade process will speed up then. Usually it takes about 3 years of (medium!) usage to get a degraded battery (with 80 percent or less remaining battery capacity).

    90 percent isn't bad if you have used your iPad very much for some years. And yes, it is a very good idea not to go below 20 percent charge (at least not for a long time!) - this helps you to get longer battery life. It helps with a factor 2 or even 3!

    I would assume that your battery will remain OK for about 1 and a half year - and then it is a good idea to sell your iPad to someone who does not use he iPad for music production or games...

    ;-)

    Yeah I’m happy with 90%, I’m going to take it a bit easier on it just in case though.

    @InfoCheck said:

    @MonzoPro said:

    @Zen210507 said:

    @MonzoPro said:
    ...as my Air 2 over two years old I’d have to pay for repairs

    >

    FWIW, the chap I spoke to - unusually helpful for an Apple employee - suggested that the heat issue might be a known fault. In which case, repair would be free even though our Air 2, like yours, is well out of warranty.

    Ah right, nice to know.

    I’m going to dive into BM3 tonight if all’s well, see how it copes with that.

    I received a new iPad Air 2 128 gb replacement for the cost of the battery ($99) after the Appple Store determined the battery had swollen and the screen had popped loose from the aluminum housing on one side. Previous to this, the iPad had been heating up and this was all just before iOS 11 arrived. The replacement iPad Air 2 doesn’t have the heat issues the original one had.

    This doesn’t get really hot - warm but not worryingly so. Still I might avoid loading up AUM with Gadget and a bunch of Au’s For a while.

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