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Best for making beats? And another question
I have patterning, is there anything else that's better for making techno/trance beats? I also have beathawk but I get the impression that it's more aimed towards the hip-pop genre....do you feel the same way? Also what are your thought on groove rider? Same store? I have these 2 and I also have imashine2 And my ther question with these type of apps are they just used for step recording or am I missing something? Also are here any guitar players around? I have a mint condition ibanez with a mahogany body and a set neck that I'm looking to trade for a midi controller and yes I know the guitar is worth a lot more than a midi controller but I'm just excited and bored with the guitar and I have no patients so I'm looking to take a loss
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I’m not a guitar player, but I have a friend who is. Unfortunately, I’ve no MIDI controllers I wish to part with.
Also, for an answer to your questions about sequencers and synths and such, just get Gadget already. Here, I whipped this up in an hour.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ic8ppbtn3f0reju/JWM - Opposite Attachment (Sketch)-converted.m4a
The only IAP I used in this one is two Vancouver (one for the kick and for the clap, because I like my own drum samples). The pad is made of two layered instances of Marseille, and the rolling bass is two Chiangmai’s (one middle layer, and the sub layer), one Wolfsburg for the upper layer pluck, and Chicago for a bit of middle grit.
You never told me what type of trance you’re looking to produce. Give me an artist, track or two, and other hints.
Maybe BM3 might be better suited for you
BM3 is excellent for extremely deep sampling and is far better suited to hip hop/RnB/trap/pop/etc. BM3 is sample-based. It also plays nice with AUs, Beathawk being no exception, and is great at internally recording audio. MIDI out is currently odd but will soon have proper implementation. I don’t think BM3 would be right for trance.
If you wanna make trance outside of Gadget’s closed system, get Xequence and AUM. I’m a Beathawk freak, and when it comes to more epic/orchestral trance, you can’t beat its orchestral libraries for the breakdowns/build-ups. It also doubles as a great drum sampler AU. Kaspar, Zeeon, and Sunrizer are bitchin for your basic synths. I’d still invest in Gadget, iM1, and iMono/Poly and route Gadget through AUM. It may be a closed system, but it has MIDI in and can have up to 16 tracks controlled by Xequence. (If you need CC implementation, press “function” when you’re zoomed in to a Gadget. BOOM! Full control.
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When you get a lot more money, get Auria and at least Pro-Q 2, Pro-C 2, Pro-L, and DCam EnvShaper. This is the best way to record and gather stems.
Of course a LOT of this stuff is intermediate to advanced and costs a lot of cash. However, it’s an investment into your future.
Yes, Patterning only does step recording. iMashine records live though I'm pretty sure. Been a while.
Think I'm just getting old but damn, use the
.andreturnkeys!No, you’re not getting old, lol. Punctuation helps keep posts looking nice and tidy and easier for the rest of us to read.
Bm3 is great for trance(look at what dean from electronisounds audio does) and its not great just for deep sampling stuff, its also great for simple things.
For techno imo drum synthesizers are better fitted so I would recommend Ruismaker, SeekBeats, MV08, iELECTRIBE, in this order.
Then anything can be used for anything. There are no right or wrong tools.
you can make "beats" in any drum machine .. on other side complete music - for that you need some DAW
I have gadget,cubasis Auria and just bought bm3 I'm now broke.....as far as my music google Technica Projections
GarageBand
It’s beat sequencer is amazing
Does more than ruismaker and is sharper, oh and free
if I was you I'd go with the seekbeats or elastic drums app and pair it with a midi controller that I found for an unbelievably good deal in the market section.
@Michael I'm getting very tired of this guy's personal vendetta against me, and his incessant, thinly veiled sniping at me. Please deal with this troll.
You could have easily made a recommendation without a comparison no one asked for. You wonder why everyone thinks you’re a negative troll? This is why.
I mentioned ruismaker because the drum sounds in it are simply not hard enough for techno or trance as it was mentioned above
It’s a great app for generating random beats on the fly for sure
@Love3quency
That guy was asking for DAW (not for drum synth) .. you told him you can use GB (which is daw), it's better than Ruismaker (which is drum synth) ...
It's same like somebody is asking which car brand is best for long travels, and you will give answer "Buy BMW, it has comfortable seats, it's better than Samsonite suitcase" ..
completely unlogic answer ..
Surprised that DM1 hasn’t been mentioned- I would take a look at that. I would think that Groove Rider could be an option- I’ve been having so much fun with the synth that I haven’t yet explored much on its drums- but I do know that sculpting the drum sounds can get as whacked out as you want- it also has a random feature and a roll feature.
Ruismaker is my go to for drum sounds. I either load it on bm3 and sample from it(use multiple samples if one layer doesent give you the sound you want or use effects on it before sampling) or load it to AUM and sample to my mpc. If you want to widen the sound pallette, you could use ruismaker fm for dum samples as well. Imaschine is another app that can give good drum sounds to sample, app itself sucks, but offers good drum sound libraries(as iap) for reasonable price. I never got into using ruismaker in standalone, rather sequence its sampled sounds elsewhere.
He mentioned “beats” not tracks
Others mentioned dm1 and patterning, are they out of line too?
Context.. is everything
Grooverider has a random feature??
Random velocity yes
oh yes.. i also hate when people calling music "beats", it sounds sooo stupid .. hence i put that meme above
)) but he mentioned full tracks based on context ..
but ok .. i agree. to call music "beats" is crap ..
maybe that name is ok for very simple music like hiphop (from where this comes), where track is almost only about beat, but not in more complex music (like trance for example)
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Heh, yah a while ago (before I grudgingly adopted the new hip english) I was on a train with my Circuit and a lawyery looking woman asked me if I was ‘making beats’ to which I replied that I have a melody going too. She just looked at me like I was the idiot.
What can I say? I’m a head. I’m into beats.
Almost died by laughing :-D :-D :-D
Velocity is no big deal for me so much, randomise everything then I’m excited !
Thus hip hop culture further confuses and degrades the English language lol
Beats .. gots to be down wit da yute innit ?
Then you should make/listen white noise, that is maximum possible randomization ...
Disappointed to read this viewpoint on a creative music forum. Not the first time though.