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Can you sing ?

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  • @enc said:
    Any of you guys got links to your stuff .. where we can hear you singing ?

  • First track time .. I was gonna say not really my type of thing but it's a strong testament to the track that I can honestly say even on first listen I really like it so I guess it is ny thing. I Can imagine a Gus Gus 8 minute epic mix of this track.
    Nice vocal, did you do the harmonies as well ?

  • @enc said:
    First track time .. I was gonna say not really my type of thing but it's a strong testament to the track that I can honestly say even on first listen I really like it so I guess it is ny thing. I Can imagine a Gus Gus 8 minute epic mix of this track.
    Nice vocal, did you do the harmonies as well ?

    Thanks - the harmonies are hacked, just the main vocal copied to a new track and pitch-shifted up 5 semitones. I'm not yet good enough to sing real harmonies without at least some help from Melodyne/Revoice Pro. Working on it though, but the difficulty with learning things in your forties is that it's super slow compared to when you are young.

    I can just about pull off a regular vocal without pitch correction now, but I always comp the final from anything between 8 to 12 takes to get a finished vocal. It's time-consuming, and I hope to one day be able to pull off more consistent performances, but I'm not there yet.

  • @richardyot said:
    … the difficulty with learning things in your forties is that it's super slow compared to when you are young.

    I think that’s because we’re now far less inclined to “just understand enough” (ie not understand much at all) to then move forward . I now have to understand a huge amount before I even make a single move.

  • @u0421793 said:

    @richardyot said:
    … the difficulty with learning things in your forties is that it's super slow compared to when you are young.

    I think that’s because we’re now far less inclined to “just understand enough” (ie not understand much at all) to then move forward . I now have to understand a huge amount before I even make a single move.

    Yes maybe, we're more analytical when we're older - but our brains also have less plasticity, so it takes longer for new connections to form. Well according to my amateur neurology anyway, might have to provide a citation to back it up.

  • edited February 2018

    ... and one more with more vocals

  • @supadom said:
    ... and one more with more vocals

    I've been a subscriber on YouTube for a while but hadn't heard this one. Excellent!

    Do you use a footpedal to trigger your looping or your fingers?

  • @fprintf said:

    @supadom said:
    ... and one more with more vocals

    I've been a subscriber on YouTube for a while but hadn't heard this one. Excellent!

    Do you use a footpedal to trigger your looping or your fingers?

    Yeah, sorry I've been a bit thin on the ground with uploading lately. I'm planning to start again though ;)

    I normally have both: foot pedal Boss FC50 and an Akai pad controller assigned to loops in loopy. The foot controller is great when it comes to looping guitar or impaktor.

  • @richardyot said:

    @u0421793 said:

    @richardyot said:
    … the difficulty with learning things in your forties is that it's super slow compared to when you are young.

    I think that’s because we’re now far less inclined to “just understand enough” (ie not understand much at all) to then move forward . I now have to understand a huge amount before I even make a single move.

    Yes maybe, we're more analytical when we're older - but our brains also have less plasticity, so it takes longer for new connections to form. Well according to my amateur neurology anyway, might have to provide a citation to back it up.

    I have doubts about the plasticity thing. It seems plausible at first sight so everyone believes it but I think it belies occluded detail.

    I think there are strategies of how to think effectively and efficiently which we discover (or don’t) to allow less wasteful usage of the brain as we go on. This adoption of strategy seems from the observational point of view to be lower plasticity, but in reality is just gaming the precious budget of ATP.

  • @supadom said:
    ... and one more with more vocals

    Dude you sound SO much like Anthony Kiedis (RHCP)

  • @Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr said:

    @oat_phipps said:
    I used to be a good singer; though I never had a naturally killer voice, it was emotive, nuanced and sincere. And for some reason I could absolutely nail Prince...almost a dead ringer.

    I stopped singing completely about two years ago when a couple of my best friends (and fellow musicians) told me my voice wasn’t good as Justin Bieber’s. It sounds idiotic and irrational, but it truly ripped the desire to sing right out of my heart.

    That's gotta be the worst reason I ever heard to stop doing anything at all. You have to start again.

    Agreed LOL

  • @enc said:
    Any of you guys got links to your stuff .. where we can hear you singing ?

    This is a bit old now. I feel (and have had independent confirmation) that my voice is stronger now than it was back then. But you get the idea LOL.

  • edited February 2018

    @MikeyP said:

    @supadom said:
    ... and one more with more vocals

    Dude you sound SO much like Anthony Kiedis (RHCP)

    I accept the compliment gracefuly but I can’t hear it myself albeit it would be great to believe it, I like his style, punctuated and rhythmical ;)

  • edited February 2018

    Have a demo. I'm on vocals. My new band, We Used To See The Sky, are looking for a drummer (Bristol):

  • If you really want to hear some of the locals crooning check out the SOTMC

    https://soundcloud.com/song-of-the-month-club

    Takes part every month and everyone is welcome to join in.

  • @supadom said:

    @MikeyP said:

    @supadom said:
    ... and one more with more vocals

    Dude you sound SO much like Anthony Kiedis (RHCP)

    I accept the compliment gracefuly but I can’t hear it myself albeit it would be great to believe it, I like his style, punctuated and rhythmical ;)

    You definitely have his tonality.

  • edited March 2019

    @gmslayton said:
    Erol is a little pricy. Need to save up on it or wait until it drops in price.

    I always struggle with singing. Its not natural for me. I dislike my voice most of the time. Sometimes I feel it sounds ok but then I try and record it, listen back and delete it every-time.

    It is something I want to work on more. Glad to see others are starting later in life in pursuit to sing better.

    I will bookmark this thread, hopefully it inspires me to work even harder.

    It just went free.

    https://itunes.apple.com/app/id502780186?at=11l3KP&mt=8&uo=4&ct=1

    I have no idea why, just that I've had this alert set for a long time and jumped on it. This is the first time in years that it has dropped below $45.

    edit: Damn, they moved to an IAP model. Only beginner level 1 is unlocked and you have to pay for the other lessons. Perhaps they found Vanido was eating into their lunch?

  • @fprintf said:
    edit: Damn, they moved to an IAP model. Only beginner level 1 is unlocked and you have to pay for the other lessons. Perhaps they found Vanido was eating into their lunch?

    It sucks that they've gone IAP, but personally I can't get on with Vanido at all, there's no way to monitor the vocal in the headphones or headset as you sing, so you can't hear yourself. Maybe I'm doing something wrong....

  • edited March 2019

    @fprintf thanks but yea going the IAP route is a bummer since it seems to be a subscription.

    I recently watched a video about "Everlong" by foo fighters and apparently David Grohl always doubles or triples his vocals because he hates his voice.

    I do agree that there are tools out there to help improve your voice but I think the best thing is to just treat it like an instrument. You have to practice it. You don't buy a guitar, sit it in the corner and expect to get better. As much as that makes sense to me, I feel like I have done that with my voice. I try to sing a few songs, get discourages when I hear the recording back, and just but my voice in the corner. Expecting to wake up one day with an improved voice.

    Not gonna happen. Maybe investing in something like Erol would help motivate me to practice singing more. Maybe just getting my voice out of the corner and using it will help just as well.

    I do feel I have improved some over the years. and I have a few more cover songs that I am working on, "Everlong" being one of them.

  • @Shacko said:
    As a child, I studied and sang with pleasure, and then I stopped and now I can’t do anything. Just sing along to famous musicians. Sad But I do not lose heart, but I sing with them and train. Someday will be cool. :D

    When I was 10 I used to draw all the time and be quite good at it and sell copies or rockstar posters drawn by hand. Now I'd struggle ro draw anything. I believe though, that it's a question of practice as long as the eye/hand coordination is there.

    The same with singing. Yes, it should be natural for all to sing, just like that but practice and letting go of inhibitions goes a long way.

    Understanding own voice, the range, take enough breath for harder/longer notes, use of diaphragm etc. does help loads too.

  • @enc said:
    Can you sing ?

    Yes.

  • Another helpful utility is "Singscope". It's free and it lets you monitor your pitch while singing.

  • Can I sing?

    Blind people refuse to read my lips when I sing. That's how bad I am.

  • It’s all about character for me - my favourite vocalists have it in bags: Shane McGowan, Mark E Smith, Jason from Sleaford Mods, Jon Martyn etc.

    I can sing in tune but my voice is bland and dull, so I don’t.

  • Noooooo ... see, that was flat, and I used Autotune :)

  • edited March 2019

    Until a few months ago I had never sung in public and was reluctant to record vocals for my songs. But I found a couple of songs that I thought suited my voice and my low (very low) range and did a local open mic night and had some good feedback. So I am much more confident now about singing - something I wish I had realised 30 or more years ago! I still don’t think of myself as a “singer”, but with the right material I know I can get through a song without people clasping their ears in horror!

  • I took voice lessons and the proper techniques for breathing, posture, and practice exercises, have all been helpful.

    And I wish Id done it decades before. I first started performing as a singer in junior high and for the most part have been the lead singer of bands since.

    But for me, it was a thing Id never really studied. I had taken piano, upright bass, accordion, guitar, etc. lessons, all helpful, never voice.

    Now, I would love to be blessed with a voice like Cornell or Serj Tankian. Dont think Ill ever be what I think of as an amazing singer. But I never had trouble being on pitch or beat, or having a reasonably normal cadence or timbre.

    But still lessons are raising me a level.

    Ive also coached numerous band mates, friends, and family over the years for backing vocal/gang vocal purposes. Now I havent worked with anyone that was tone deaf, but I have worked with friends that were definitely not naturals at finding the right pitch, esp harmonies and got them there.

    @MonzoPro said:
    It’s all about character for me - my favourite vocalists have it in bags: Shane McGowan, Mark E Smith, Jason from Sleaford Mods, Jon Martyn etc.

    I can sing in tune but my voice is bland and dull, so I don’t.

    Love McGowan

  • Yes, but I can only imitate others.

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