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  • My mom was in grade school in the earl 1930's. Her teacher told her not to sing, that she was a listener not a singer. My mom went home crying to her mother and her mom (in broken English) said “You sing” and stormed to the school to complain “let my daughter sing”.

    While growing up my dad and I would constantly tease her, and she never could sing in tune. But it never ever discouraged her from singing along to Frank Sinatra at the top of her lungs!

  • I believe you can teach a person to sing in tune, but I think it’s very hard to teach a person to sing with their heart and soul. I'm a decent singer and but what I lack in skills I try to make up by putting my emotions into every words.

  • @gmslayton said:
    @fprintf thanks but yea going the IAP route is a bummer since it seems to be a subscription.

    I recently watched a video about "Everlong" by foo fighters and apparently David Grohl always doubles or triples his vocals because he hates his voice.

    I do agree that there are tools out there to help improve your voice but I think the best thing is to just treat it like an instrument. You have to practice it. You don't buy a guitar, sit it in the corner and expect to get better. As much as that makes sense to me, I feel like I have done that with my voice. I try to sing a few songs, get discourages when I hear the recording back, and just but my voice in the corner. Expecting to wake up one day with an improved voice.

    Not gonna happen. Maybe investing in something like Erol would help motivate me to practice singing more. Maybe just getting my voice out of the corner and using it will help just as well.

    I do feel I have improved some over the years. and I have a few more cover songs that I am working on, "Everlong" being one of them.

    You referring to him as 'David' Grohl instead of Dave reminded me of an old classic studio hangtime 'boys club' joke we made back in the day:

    Did you see the Lionel Richie press release? It said, "In an effort to get my music taken more seriously, from this day forward I shall be known as Lionel Richard."

    Maybe you had to be there, maybe not. I still find it hilarious.

  • If you can read music (or have a good ear) one easy way to get into singing is to join a choir. Less pressure, and a good way to practice.

    Though I'd also recommend either getting a good app (Erol is good - shame about the subscription model), or paying for singing lessons. My singing improved dramatically when I was shown how to breathe properly. It's a simple thing that makes a huge difference.

  • Yes, I can. Does it sound good? Heck no, but I don't care...

  • @Fissura said:
    I do not know how and never did. I think this is a failure, but I would still like to learn someday. I would like very much, but I am not sure that this is possible after 30 :s.

    Of course it is possible after age 30. Are you serious? Start practicing!

  • Listening is just as important as singing. I concentrate on listening to my pitch along with other instruments just as as much as I concentrate singing.

    It is difficult at first but after about two years it is easier. If you are not tone deaf ( I am sure there are many variations) You should be able to make corrections as you sing.

    One of the hardest parts of singing is practicing perception. It is acceptable for any other musician to hit a wrong note now and then even be out of time or key for a moment when practicing. Heck it is acceptable to sound like a screeching cat when first learning to play the guitar. But NOT singing, for some reason there is zero tolerance even with ourselves. Just take that into consideration.

    Talent is subjective, aptitude has more relevance in my opinion. For some it is much easier than others. Keep at it develop your ear and keep trying to get better.

    I wanted to sing like Ronnie James Dio but there is only one!

  • Look - the truth is that a good singing voice comes with time. That's it - that's the secret. Time spent.

    It sounds trite and all that, but it's the truth. I've been lucky in my life to have a solid sense of pitch and and a good ear. My voice hasn't always had the best tone quality, but I just keep singing.

    And singing.

    And more singing.

    Singing in the car, in the shower, on a walk. Singing along to the radio helps, but there's a safety net when there's someone else singing too, so try to accompany yourself on your instrument: keys, guitar, drums, whatever. If you can't play, download a backing track, or put together a sequence of something familiar you can sing over.

    This is the first and biggest step. Time spent will get you the best results without doing anything more than just doing it. Of course this can be accelerated with things like focused learning and practice, good technique, etc. but to get started:

    Just sing - warts and all. Bob Dylan made a career out of it!

  • edited April 2019

    @JeffChasteen said:
    Yes, but I can only imitate others.

    Realized as a youth, that being a basic threshold of pitch and timing, what really hooks me about a singer is having their own voice. And that I had an issue imitating certain idols.

    I raged at myself for so long on every practice recording listen.

    I eventually did a self-styled retreat from listening to anything for a few months, and experimenting, which was hard. And I came out with some mixed feelings. I became quite sure I found my own unique natural way of enunciating, holding notes, the mix of diaphragm and not that felt natural..... and I didn't love it. A bit more of a punk or even hip hop at times bark, while being on pitch.

    But...I instantly was getting a lot more praise for my singing.

    :shurg

    There is a great line from Concrete Blonde "And if I had the choice I'd take the voice I got. Cause it was hard to find."

  • Just a note that Erol's Singer's Studio is currently FREE for anyone interested. Usually $45!

    (Sorry no link--on my phone.)

  • @fprintf said:

    @gmslayton said:
    Erol is a little pricy. Need to save up on it or wait until it drops in price.

    I always struggle with singing. Its not natural for me. I dislike my voice most of the time. Sometimes I feel it sounds ok but then I try and record it, listen back and delete it every-time.

    It is something I want to work on more. Glad to see others are starting later in life in pursuit to sing better.

    I will bookmark this thread, hopefully it inspires me to work even harder.

    It just went free.

    https://itunes.apple.com/app/id502780186?at=11l3KP&mt=8&uo=4&ct=1

    I have no idea why, just that I've had this alert set for a long time and jumped on it. This is the first time in years that it has dropped below $45.

    edit: Damn, they moved to an IAP model. Only beginner level 1 is unlocked and you have to pay for the other lessons. Perhaps they found Vanido was eating into their lunch?

    They're quoting me $60-something/year. It seems like a lot, but it's really only the price of one lesson with a decent teacher.

  • @oddSTAR said:
    Just a note that Erol's Singer's Studio is currently FREE for anyone interested. Usually $45!

    (Sorry no link--on my phone.)

    $45 seems like a bargain compared to the subscription IAP. I wish I had gotten it back then.

  • @Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr said:

    @oddSTAR said:
    Just a note that Erol's Singer's Studio is currently FREE for anyone interested. Usually $45!

    (Sorry no link--on my phone.)

    $45 seems like a bargain compared to the subscription IAP. I wish I had gotten it back then.

    Definitely a bargain now, and I feel the same way. Damn subscription models and this particular app seems like a cash cow, they aren't making changes with active developer work. But the whole software industry is moving in this direction instead of one time purchases anyway for lots of reasons...

  • @oddSTAR said:
    Just a note that Erol's Singer's Studio is currently FREE for anyone interested. Usually $45!

    (Sorry no link--on my phone.)

    Thanks :)

  • I always sing when I get drunk))

  • @Ult1mat3X said:
    I always sing when I get drunk))

    Sometimes the same here and thru auto-tune it can get pretty hilarious :D

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