Are Korg apps eating your money?

Kühl

@oldschoolwillie said:
1980

Summer job / pimpels

Got to the store to buy the record to sample

Smoke weed / safety pin through nose

Bring record home play it on record player
book studio time, hardware too expensive to own in 1980

Chicks / pre aids

Drive to the studio to record 50-100 dollars an hour....sample, chop and record demo song

Smoke more weed

Drive home listen to beat/song write vocals

Beer

Drive back to the Studio to record vocals and final mix song

Where the hell did I wake up and what’s your name girl?

Drive to another studio to master song

Occupy a building

Copyright song......

Fight the cops

create hand drawn artwork for vinyl cover of song

Probably weed again

Mail the master mix tape to the pressing plant to get press vinyl copies of song
Wait two-three weeks to receive vinyl copies of song

Wild sex with groupies

Mail copies to record companies A&R, local DJ and promoters
Wait and pray to get record deal

Bribe someone

Pray to get radio play
Pray to get to perform your song
Pray to make money from song

Rehab

2018
IPAD+GADGET+AUDIOBUS+ AURIA PRO+APOGEE ONE+

Netflix / popcorn

IPAD. iTunes for song to sample, record ,mix, master song, create artwork, create video, upload video, get people to watch, listen, right from the comfort of the couch.

Netflix / popcorn

To make a long story short.......JUST BUY IT!

Analogue life vs digital life

lovadamusic

Relatively speaking, I've spent way more on Korg apps than on any other company's products for iOS. They aren't the answer to everything, but the value for dollar has been worth it to me in terms of function, sound quality and reliability. I've owned Korg hardware for decades. I don't expect a company like that to give stuff away, and I feel iOS as a music-making platform benefits greatly from their participation in this market. Fortunately, enough people are willing to pay the prices to keep Korg alive here.

Some musicians aren't fans of Korg sounds or how they implement everything, so the value for dollar may not be there. Nothing wrong with that. It's a big world with so many ways to go. Use none of their products, everything they sell, or anything in between. It's really a matter of personal choice and difficult to advise someone on value, especially when you can get so much good for dirt cheap. I'd just say, if the prices appear daunting, don't spend much money until you really know the product.

Audiojunkie

@Keenan said:

@LucidMusicInc said:
Have you got Gadget LE?

From there you can use the app and hear demos of the IAP gadgets.

Had it but deleted it long ago. I’m gonna download it again tonight. Is it usable on iPhone as well? The UI looks really small, I’m hoping it’s easier in landscape.

It works just fine! Of course, I use a plus model.

jwmmakerofmusic

@Keenan said:

@LucidMusicInc said:
Have you got Gadget LE?

From there you can use the app and hear demos of the IAP gadgets.

Had it but deleted it long ago. I’m gonna download it again tonight. Is it usable on iPhone as well? The UI looks really small, I’m hoping it’s easier in landscape.

It’s absolutely useable on modern iPhones. iPhone SE has the same processing power as an iPad Air 2, and if you have anything a more powerful than that, you’re definitely good to go. Cheers.

Halftone

@Audiojunkie said:

@Keenan said:

@LucidMusicInc said:
Have you got Gadget LE?

From there you can use the app and hear demos of the IAP gadgets.

Had it but deleted it long ago. I’m gonna download it again tonight. Is it usable on iPhone as well? The UI looks really small, I’m hoping it’s easier in landscape.

It works just fine! Of course, I use a plus model.

I never thought it would - despite reading reports here that it was useable on iPhone. I held off downloading to my phone until this past January with no regrets at all. it's really quite great on the iPhone 6s.

jwmmakerofmusic

@LucidMusicInc said:

@jwmmakerofmusic said:
@LucidMusicInc

Indeed the last thing I would call Gadget is “stale sounding”. It’s all in the producer, not the tools. There’s another trick besides delay-based effects and filters. Okay, repeat after me ladies, non-binaries, and gents... ”LAYERING!!!” What is layering? Why it’s the ability to layer sounds to BUILD something. Unlike an app like Beathawk where solid layering is already done for ya in a single patch, you can take each sound in Gadget and do some very advanced shit!!! Some ideas...

-Sub bass, low bass, and mid bass. Maybe the sub bass has a different rhythmic pattern than the other two and is a simple boring off-beat eighth note. Maybe the mid bass has a delay on it with the colour turned up to take out the low end of the delays.

-Montpelier, Wolfsburg, and Lisbon. Lisbon has the trance gate on and is swimming in that Apollo reverb. Montpelier is SHARP, some delays, and veeeeery subtle reverb. Wolfburg has the mids scooped out, also swimming in reverb, but has a phaser slapped on for good measure. Combine this shit to make a trance pad.

-Take a fake-sounding iM1 string patch and double it with KaPRO Strings. Want it to sound more fake? Make iM1 the dominant layer. More realistic? Make KaPRO the dominant layer.

-Even layering your drums! Let the kick have the full attack while you soften the attack of the clap, hats, cymbals, snares, toms, whatever!

And lets not forget the pattern-based automation! Okay, so I admit I hate having to draw it in, so there’s my one of two Gadget gripes (the other being the lack of ability to rename tracks). However, a small price to pay for having the knobs return to their default position in the next pattern without having to actually draw in where it should go. Major time saver, and did I mention it can give a repeating melody in a dance music track some variety in timbre by automating the layers differently each time?! Right, there you go then.

Right, so the only IAP in Gadget I’d avoid is DeeMax. That is about the shittiest maximizer you can find in the appstore, and you’re far better off running Gadget into AUM via IAA and slapping Maxima on the end instead. (You can also record your live mixing too! Ride those faders into the sunset folks!)

Yep automation is smooth like butter and you can do a lot of experimentation with a single gadget just variating some parameters.

Like I said, it’s incredible the variety you can get in Gadget.

Deemax... in some scenarios the built in limiter is better. For gritty genres like hip hop and techno Deemax is more appropriate.

I suppose mate. To each their own.

Deemax and Kamata are both meh for the asking price, as are the preset IAPs in apps like Odessey and Monopoly.

The only reason I purchased the preset IAPs in Monopoly is due to sending over more money to Korg to fund more development. If I recall correctly, Odyssei’s IAPs actually do change the behaviour of the filter depending on the “revision” (unless “revisions” are unlocked already?)

I do a lot of tinkering with Kamata but in many ways I prefer Kingston. Same with how I prefer M1 over Wavestation. A lot of duplication from these guys.

Actually, Kamata allows you to draw your own waveforms, whereas Kingston’s are static. Then again, Kingston allows for some choice arpeggio sounds. Both are very useful in their own ways.

I'm a bit ticked that the price of the Wurly Module IAP is the same as Scarbee even though Scarbee is far superior. I don't want to have both but at the same time I do. I haven't had the justification to get the Dreamy Synths either with the overwhelming amount of sounds I've already got.

Then again, I’m a completionist. I have everything Gadget-related and lack nothing.

I spend an inordinate amount of time with Vancouver nowadays. I like Gadgets sequencer over any other DAW and therefore am setting myself up on a Quixotic task of sampling my favourite sounds out of my other synths into Gadget and getting really lost in the process.

And it’s about time the idiots at Korg released a proper “simpler” for Gadget, right? Sucks that that’s the thing hidden behind an IAP fee instead of Zurich since Vancouver should be an essential instead, but whatever.

The major irony is I'm still writing tracks using just Marseille and London

I do love Marseille and London. However, I really love Recife for drums too. Never got into Bilbao outside of importing drum samples to use.

gusgranite

It took me a while to grow to like Korg. I found the online demos sounded cheesy, and Korg as a company seem to be a bit lumbering in addressing some app limitations/restrictions.

But they do sound great. There is an amazing history to a lot of these sounds as well. Some updates do come eventually. And the Gadget workflow can really help you focus. Korg have won me over, for sure.

Mayo

Avoided all of them
still have some Korg vintage analog synths though...

[Deleted User]

Gadget is amazing. Still haven't and don't intend to buy everything Korg is selling. iM1, Recife, Bilbao, Vancouver and Abu cover huuuuge areas for me. I'll eventually get Odessei and more Module IAPs on the next sale. Neither the Goggle Gadget or the Video Game one are compelling to me. I start most tracks in Gadget then export stems into BM3 or GB to combine with AUs, many of which (Poison, Zeeon, etc) are cheaper and better than many of the IAPs in Gadget.

LucidMusicInc

@WillieNegus said:
Gadget is amazing. Still haven't and don't intend to buy everything Korg is selling. iM1, Recife, Bilbao, Vancouver and Abu cover huuuuge areas for me. I'll eventually get Odessei and more Module IAPs on the next sale. Neither the Goggle Gadget or the Video Game one are compelling to me. I start most tracks in Gadget then export stems into BM3 or GB to combine with AUs, many of which (Poison, Zeeon, etc) are cheaper and better than many of the IAPs in Gadget.

Lisbon is actually a kick ass synth. Shoutouts to @davis_korgrd for that one. Never disappoints!

[Deleted User]

Gotta check youtube for some demos @LucidMusicInc. The IAP demo didn’t do it for me.

Tmidiman

I wasn’t early in getting Gadget, but early enough to see it grow and buy upgrades along the way. (Sorry, but do I really need Dreamy Synths,...no.)

The thing is it’s always on sale. So when there’s a sale just buy what’s most important to you. I have 1-2 Korg apps that can’t connect to Gadget, won’t but any more of those, as I’m a guitar player more than a synth guy. But Gadget rocks so hard! If they release more Gadgets I can use I get buy them.

[Deleted User]

I think most would agree Gadget is a nice voluptuous rack of special for those with discerning fingers. I recommend NanoKey Studio with @LucidMusicInc custom scene data to enhance the experience. Quneo also makes an excellent mobile controller.