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New MOOG app - Minimoog Model D!

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  • @cib That was me! It really helps me to use that generic slider view.

    @MoogMusicInc since Garageband on iPhone does not make any kind of on-screen Mod Wheel available for AU instruments, would it be possible for the AU interface to include its own Mod Wheel? Because the MW acts as the "Amount" knob for the modulation section, it's a must-have when programming Model D inside Garageband. (Model 15 already has its own mod wheel available when used as an AU in the iPhone version of Garageband).

  • @JonLewis said:
    Garageband on iPhone does not make any kind of on-screen Mod Wheel available for AU instruments, would it be possible for the AU interface to include its own Mod Wheel? Because the MW acts as the "Amount" knob for the modulation section, it's a must-have when programming Model D inside Garageband. (Model 15 already has its own mod wheel available when used as an AU in the iPhone version of Garageband).

    Are you 100% sure about this?
    At least on the iPad there's an option to overlay pitch & mod-wheels.(tap on the icon similar to the one in the attacked image).

  • yeah i know it exists on iPad! You can do a double keyboard layout on iPad GB also. Neither of these things exist in GB's iPhone version.

  • I tried the pitch/mod wheel overlay in GarageBand and the mod wheel works but not the pitch bend. Is this a bug or is there a setting somewhere for this. Help

  • edited March 2018

    @Jomazz said:
    I tried the pitch/mod wheel overlay in GarageBand and the mod wheel works but not the pitch bend. Is this a bug or is there a setting somewhere for this. Help

    Must be a bug in Model D since it works with most other AUv3's...
    ... or something to do with MPE

    When a plug-in supports MPE 'pitch' shows up where one toggles between glissando and scroll.

  • @MoogMusicInc I should have mentioned that even without a built-in Mod Wheel GUI for Model D AU, it would be a valid workaround if "Mod Wheel Position" was exposed as one of the sliders in Garageband's generic "sliders view" of the AU. Almost all the other parameters are exposed there. That way, one could at least program the mod amount into the patch, if not 'perform' the wheel dynamically while recording.

  • Ok I tested both Zeeon and Kauldron as aus in GarageBand and the pitchbend/mod wheel overlays both worked fine so I think it’s a bug in ModelD.

  • edited March 2018

    @Oblique said:
    Hmm, I told myself enough (synth apps) was enough! But this is hard to resist. I have 2 questions:
    Will it run on Air 1?

    I have it on an Air 1 and it runs:

    • terrific as a standalone (and it's, like, really amazing),
    • with one instance of AU in BM3, but two causes a seizure,
    • FLS Mobile has a seizure when trying to add just one instance.

    Yes, I did a full reboot.

  • Playing polyphonic pitchbends via GB is really nice. I must say Model D sounds in general very very smooth like butter. I like smoothness.

  • So far ModelD has been behaving quite well until now. I made two presets, one a very nice organ and the other a soft flute pad. Have them saved in “My Bank” I just tried to make a beefier preset and the audio just starts distorting violently on and on. The only way to stop it is close the app down. Do a refresh of my iPad and start again....still the same result
    Guess my tired iPad mini 2 can’t handle the truth of this mighty synth

  • How come I mini has more switches than this? I thought I could manually copy some of the i mini patches, but I can’t

  • @bigcatrik said:

    @Oblique said:
    Hmm, I told myself enough (synth apps) was enough! But this is hard to resist. I have 2 questions:
    Will it run on Air 1?

    I have it on an Air 1 and it runs:

    • terrific as a standalone (and it's, like, really amazing),
    • with one instance of AU in BM3, but two causes a seizure,
    • FLS Mobile has a seizure when trying to add just one instance.

    Yes, I did a full reboot.

    Same experience with mine. Even with the buffer set to 1024 in AUM. Though, if I close both Model D windows, I can get it to kinda work, depending on the patches. But yeah, stand alone or single instance in AUM works perfectly.

  • @AndyPlankton said:
    @MoogMusicInc Thanks very much for making this....and thanks also for your presence here trying to sort out everybodys questions and issues..it is most appreciated :)

    Epic +1. And great tip about fine adjustment mode.

    Minor thought: I imagine it's something to do with keeping with tradition (and maybe UI space) but I'd be happy to see the key behavior and LFO shapes moved out from the settings menu and into the main UI (at least in stand alone mode). Key behavior could be single button that cycles through the three states. It would fit well on the keyboard (and be right where you want it). LFO shape would make the most sense in the Controller area but if that's taboo, the Volume section has room (for both, controls really). Along those lines, seems having access to the Looper Beep toggle would be most useful directly on the Looper UI.

  • I what to support thesoundtestroom where is his link?

  • @Aggersborg said:
    I what to support thesoundtestroom where is his link?

    https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/minimoog-model-d/id1339418001?at=1l3voJz&ls=1&mt=8&uo=4

    From the new vid here showcasing the IAP

  • A thing about the MPE. Does the Model D do actually MPE?
    Or i´m right that in this case it just polyphonic pitchbends. There is no polyphonic aftertouch or modulation (just global via the wheel) like in Model 15? Or did i set it up wrong.

  • @Cib said:
    A thing about the MPE. Does the Model D do actually MPE?
    Or i´m right that in this case it just polyphonic pitchbends. There is no polyphonic aftertouch or modulation (just global via the wheel) like in Model 15? Or did i set it up wrong.

    There's polyphonic modulation. Make sure to set the MIDI input channel to MPE. Then CC74 will be per-note modulation as if you would be using the mod-wheel independently for each note.

  • edited March 2018

    @MoogMusicInc said:

    @Cib said:
    A thing about the MPE. Does the Model D do actually MPE?
    Or i´m right that in this case it just polyphonic pitchbends. There is no polyphonic aftertouch or modulation (just global via the wheel) like in Model 15? Or did i set it up wrong.

    There's polyphonic modulation. Make sure to set the MIDI input channel to MPE. Then CC74 will be per-note modulation as if you would be using the mod-wheel independently for each note.

    Thank´s! It seems i thought Model 15 will output MPE but doesn´t.......or?
    I will try it with the Seaboard-
    However, Model D sounds wonderful so far. But zooming like in Model 15 would be much much appreciated on iPhone.

  • @Cib said:

    @MoogMusicInc said:

    @Cib said:
    A thing about the MPE. Does the Model D do actually MPE?
    Or i´m right that in this case it just polyphonic pitchbends. There is no polyphonic aftertouch or modulation (just global via the wheel) like in Model 15? Or did i set it up wrong.

    There's polyphonic modulation. Make sure to set the MIDI input channel to MPE. Then CC74 will be per-note modulation as if you would be using the mod-wheel independently for each note.

    Thank´s! It seems i thought Model 15 will output MPE but doesn´t.......or?
    I will try it with the Seaboard-
    However, Model D sounds wonderful so far. But zooming like in Model 15 would be much much appreciated on iPhone.

    Hi Cib,

    None of our apps output MPE MIDI. This might be something we look at in the future.

  • @MoogMusicInc said:

    @Cib said:

    @MoogMusicInc said:

    @Cib said:
    A thing about the MPE. Does the Model D do actually MPE?
    Or i´m right that in this case it just polyphonic pitchbends. There is no polyphonic aftertouch or modulation (just global via the wheel) like in Model 15? Or did i set it up wrong.

    There's polyphonic modulation. Make sure to set the MIDI input channel to MPE. Then CC74 will be per-note modulation as if you would be using the mod-wheel independently for each note.

    Thank´s! It seems i thought Model 15 will output MPE but doesn´t.......or?
    I will try it with the Seaboard-
    However, Model D sounds wonderful so far. But zooming like in Model 15 would be much much appreciated on iPhone.

    Hi Cib,

    None of our apps output MPE MIDI. This might be something we look at in the future.

    It´s O.K. (before that i would prefer macOS versions of your apps.....ever considered that?)
    So it was just user fault, sorry!

  • @Cib said:

    @MoogMusicInc said:

    @Cib said:

    @MoogMusicInc said:

    @Cib said:
    A thing about the MPE. Does the Model D do actually MPE?
    Or i´m right that in this case it just polyphonic pitchbends. There is no polyphonic aftertouch or modulation (just global via the wheel) like in Model 15? Or did i set it up wrong.

    There's polyphonic modulation. Make sure to set the MIDI input channel to MPE. Then CC74 will be per-note modulation as if you would be using the mod-wheel independently for each note.

    Thank´s! It seems i thought Model 15 will output MPE but doesn´t.......or?
    I will try it with the Seaboard-
    However, Model D sounds wonderful so far. But zooming like in Model 15 would be much much appreciated on iPhone.

    Hi Cib,

    None of our apps output MPE MIDI. This might be something we look at in the future.

    It´s O.K. (before that i would prefer macOS versions of your apps.....ever considered that?)

    We have, but we're a small employee owned company with limited resources, at this time we don't have the resources available to be able to create high-quality VST/AU plugins with as much attention to detail as our other instruments.

  • @MoogMusicInc said:

    @Cib said:

    @MoogMusicInc said:

    @Cib said:

    @MoogMusicInc said:

    @Cib said:
    A thing about the MPE. Does the Model D do actually MPE?
    Or i´m right that in this case it just polyphonic pitchbends. There is no polyphonic aftertouch or modulation (just global via the wheel) like in Model 15? Or did i set it up wrong.

    There's polyphonic modulation. Make sure to set the MIDI input channel to MPE. Then CC74 will be per-note modulation as if you would be using the mod-wheel independently for each note.

    Thank´s! It seems i thought Model 15 will output MPE but doesn´t.......or?
    I will try it with the Seaboard-
    However, Model D sounds wonderful so far. But zooming like in Model 15 would be much much appreciated on iPhone.

    Hi Cib,

    None of our apps output MPE MIDI. This might be something we look at in the future.

    It´s O.K. (before that i would prefer macOS versions of your apps.....ever considered that?)

    We have, but we're a small employee owned company with limited resources, at this time we don't have the resources available to be able to create high-quality VST/AU plugins with as much attention to detail as our other instruments.

    Forget VST.....make AU and macOS only...should be more easy to port >:) :)
    But i understand that. Maybe i can run iOS apps soon within macOS...who knows.
    I just have trouble with these touch screens and iOS. I dreamed of a multi-instrument set-up from Moog synths which i can recall and use all the crazy DAW automations. Then i woke up.......took my iPhone and was still surprised with that desktop level sound output.

  • edited March 2018

    MoogMusic inc will there ever be an randomizer in the app or an x/y page that mimics the ikaossilator note input, especially since you've got a nice looper in the app already?

  • @kobamoto said:
    MoogMusic inc will there ever be an randomizer in the app or an x/y page that mimics the ikaossilator note input, especially since you've got a nice looper in the app already?

    Those are great suggestions, we will definitely take them into account for future updates!

  • @MoogMusicInc said:

    @kobamoto said:
    MoogMusic inc will there ever be an randomizer in the app or an x/y page that mimics the ikaossilator note input, especially since you've got a nice looper in the app already?

    Those are great suggestions, we will definitely take them into account for future updates!

    Music to my ears..... thank you.

  • edited March 2018

    @Jomazz said:
    Ok I tested both Zeeon and Kauldron as aus in GarageBand and the pitchbend/mod wheel overlays both worked fine so I think it’s a bug in ModelD.

    This is due to how MPE works. A global pitch wheel needs to be sent on a master channel, while the per-note pitch bends are sent on the per-note channels. This master channel is specified through an NRPN, but since the MPE spec is not published yet, neither GarageBand, neither our apps handle this NRPN. Without that information, we don't know what the master channel is and thus can't handle that global wheel. This will be addressed in a future update.

  • Any idea as to how I might copy the stand alone user presets to the AUV3?

  • @ALB said:
    Any idea as to how I might copy the stand alone user presets to the AUV3?

    For me it happens 'automagically' ie. the presets I create in the stand alone are also in the AUv3.
    (Just need to use the AUv3's 'built-in' preset manager and not the one that the host provides).

  • does anyone know? can use this app in the fx slot of aum or audiobus and run an audio signal through the model d filter section, or fx within the app? i love mood filters and delays.

  • @Samu said:

    @ALB said:
    Any idea as to how I might copy the stand alone user presets to the AUV3?

    For me it happens 'automagically' ie. the presets I create in the stand alone are also in the AUv3.
    (Just need to use the AUv3's 'built-in' preset manager and not the one that the host provides).

    Ahhh - I didn't see the grey "down" arrow (top left under keyboard icon) in AUM, so I thought they would need to be ported over. All is well.

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