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Audiobus 2 pulled from AppStore? (Yes)

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  • @tja said:
    I did not buy it.
    But I would have liked to buy it.
    If I was given a chance!
    But I was not given a chance.
    Nobody was given a chance!

    Silly as a complaint, as AB3 was out for many months with AB2 being deprecated, but amazing as poetry.

  • edited April 2018

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  • wimwim
    edited April 2018

    @JRSIV said:

    @wim said:

    @JRSIV said:
    Thanks to @supadom and the others who explained why AB2 was still vital to a lot of users in the community. I definitely get it now and am sympathetic to those who were using it or just wanted the option to do so.

    If they were using it there’s nothing keeping them from it! This changes nothing. If they do think they want to and they haven’t bought it by now then somehow I think they’ll live.

    Well brother you both know how we musician/Producers are...well, f-that I'll speak for myself: I would get annoyed and all OCD'd out if one of my favorite apps was taken off the store and wouldn't be updated. Even if the app could be backed up via iFunbox or something I'd be worried if my iPad took a shit or if a solar flare erased all iOS apps under 500mb's (hey, it could happen! Lol) that I would be S.O.L.

    Was just trying to see their view point. But as I inferred my gut feeling is well, AB3 really is better and time marches on. It's a double edged sword this crazy technology: we get desktop quality audio capability on a slate the size of a magazine, but said slate probably/definitely has engineered obsolescence techniques in play & the software & apps we all "buy" really aren't "owned" by us. We're licensed users...

    Sorry for the rant, just trying to see both sides of a situation.

    Just for the record, I wasn't commenting on the rant, but about the misunderstanding that seems to have driven it.

    I know I'm beating a dead horse here, but just one more try for those who still don't understand.

    No one has pulled AB2 from availability for those who own it. It's still available for those who have purchased it. It's still gonna keep working unless Apple breaks it with an update somehow. At that point it'll be up to Michael if he wants to invest time into fixing it. It would make no business sense for him to do so, and it would be silly for people to expect him to.

    The only change here is it's not available for new sales.

    That decision makes total sense to me, and IMO Michael is completely right not to apologize or to justify his decision to anyone. I don't believe that is owed to anyone, or even wise to offer.

  • @AndyPawlak said:
    So another great app goes the journey ?, a simple excellent useful app that can be used
    Any time without glitch.. MOST iOS apps are completely over complicated toys , but some are fantastic and rock solid , which means they can be used in a deadline situation and relied upon to deliver when needed. Apps like AudioShare , Animoog, iMini etc.
    And Ab2 is in that class.. now your telling me that it won’t be supported anymore ?
    More complex is not better, in fact in music , it’s worse.

    If changes were made to Audiobus 2, it probably wouldn’t run on older versions of iOS or older devices ( e.g. iPad 2). In many respects Audiobus 3 was made with making things simpler by incorporating MIDI and AU support.

    If you want to use older devices and Audiobus 2 you still can.

    Developers have limited resources and time. Not only would future updates to Audiobus 2 support require work by @Michael, other developers would also have to update it in their apps too.

    The nature of the digital age is that there’s a limited shelf life. iOS has an especially short one, so it doesn’t make sense to me to expect iOS music apps to be any different. The most you can expect is that there’s a stable version of the app when changes are made to iOS and iOS music infrastructure which require significant changes which aren’t compatible with the previous version. This has been the case for Audiobus 2 in my opinion.

  • wimwim
    edited April 2018

    @InfoCheck said:

    @AndyPawlak said:
    So another great app goes the journey ?, a simple excellent useful app that can be used
    Any time without glitch.. MOST iOS apps are completely over complicated toys , but some are fantastic and rock solid , which means they can be used in a deadline situation and relied upon to deliver when needed. Apps like AudioShare , Animoog, iMini etc.
    And Ab2 is in that class.. now your telling me that it won’t be supported anymore ?
    More complex is not better, in fact in music , it’s worse.

    If changes were made to Audiobus 2, it probably wouldn’t run on older versions of iOS or older devices ( e.g. iPad 2). In many respects Audiobus 3 was made with making things simpler by incorporating MIDI and AU support.

    If you want to use older devices and Audiobus 2 you still can.

    These are good points. Not introducing potential problems for older devices and for people that rely on AB2 for a stable setup is certainly more better for them. It would be completely impractical to try to test on the multitude of older versions and devices. The potential for breaking something that people purposely have kept "frozen" for stability is high.

  • @tja said:

    @gonekrazy3000 said:

    @JRSIV said:

    @wim said:

    @JRSIV said:
    Thanks to @supadom and the others who explained why AB2 was still vital to a lot of users in the community. I definitely get it now and am sympathetic to those who were using it or just wanted the option to do so.

    If they were using it there’s nothing keeping them from it! This changes nothing. If they do think they want to and they haven’t bought it by now then somehow I think they’ll live.

    Well brother you both know how we musician/Producers are...well, f-that I'll speak for myself: I would get annoyed and all OCD'd out if one of my favorite apps was taken off the store and wouldn't be updated. Even if the app could be backed up via iFunbox or something I'd be worried if my iPad took a shit or if a solar flare erased all iOS apps under 500mb's (hey, it could happen! Lol) that I would be S.O.L.

    Was just trying to see their view point. But as I inferred my gut feeling is well, AB3 really is better and time marches on. It's a double edged sword this crazy technology: we get desktop quality audio capability on a slate the size of a magazine, but said slate probably/definitely has engineered obsolescence techniques in play & the software & apps we all "buy" really aren't "owned" by us. We're licensed users...

    Sorry for the rant, just trying to see both sides of a situation.

    It's still in the purchased section. You can redownload it at any time if you already own it. So it isn't really gone at all for anyone that uses it currently. People that don't own it weren't using it anyways. So why complain about it ?

    It seems pointless to explain that again:

    I did not buy it.
    But I would have liked to buy it.
    If I was given a chance!
    But I was not given a chance.
    Nobody was given a chance!

    And acting in this way, was shortsighted and not nice.
    And Michael does not even say a word about this.
    This is disappointing.

    I don't understand the reactions to my valid complains!
    I am out of this topic.

    Well, we're trying to explain, but I guess there's a communication disconnect somewhere.

    You had a chance to buy AB2 for a long time, but for whatever reason you chose not to. Michael explained that he took it off the App Store because he wants it off the market, so why would he need to make an announcement of that decision beforehand so more people on the fence could buy it? The idea is to move AWAY from AB2. If you own it and want to still use it or need to download it, you can, but you may have to stick with the device and OS it runs on.

    Maybe some people here are new to digital technology, but everything's been changing rapidly for decades now. Who still uses any software or the computer it ran on from years ago? And if they do, do they expect it to still be supported by the maker? There is always a day the support has to end. And with iOS, we're talking apps that cost 5 or 10 bucks. So, yes, the developer at some point must move on, and so do the users.

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