Audio Evolution Mobile DAW now officially supports the iPhone!!!

Littlewoodg

@dwrae great release, huge breakthrough for iPhone users too, now the first tier in iPhone DAW

RajahP

@yowza said:
Folks around here always ask for Link but that’s not always easy to do anytime audio is involved because of the time stretch and pitch shift involved to manipulate the audio. This is why Auria and Cubasis don’t have it and likely never will. I guess newer iPads could handle but I’m not a dev so I don’t really know what I’m talking about.

Well, maybe we just want to link these DAWs to apps like Blocs Wave (which handles timestretch, etc. well).. That ‘Open In’ feature is so cool..

yowza

Right but Bloc Wave doesn't have to manipulate a song, potentially several minutes long, with multiple tracks going which I suspect would grind most iOS devices to a halt. Linking looped audio is different than the way most DAWs operate.

[Deleted User]

BM3 has Link; though I wish it was V3

mrufino1

Cool, @dwrae thank you for stopping in! I bought the pro IAP today and the toneboosters eq, will probably get the other IAP later but just want to test them first. Keep up the great work, I remvember when this first came out on Android years ago. I look forward to using it.

noisefan

i also picked this up and find it pretty intuitive to use but one thing stumps me-

How do you delete a MIDI Instrument once it’s created? I can Remove the notes but not the entire track.

noisefan

Of course I figure it out minutes after asking how to delete tracks!

Long press on the the track in the timeline and several options appear including Remove Track.

mrufino1

I am imported the stems from one of our new shutterwax recordings and starting working with them, immediately bought most of the iap's,this will be really fun to mix on my phone. Crazy, going to do a real mix on my phone...

gfcalvi

Is AEMD sending clock/sync info to auv3 tracks ?
I can’t sync lorenz auv3 arpeggiator and model 15 auv3 seq with AEMD tempo definition.
Is there anything I need to setup ?

Thanks
GF

audiblevideo

@Audiojunkie So you wanna build a snowman... (err, ahem)
So you want to use your midi generators
Set them up in AUM and route the signal (from the target sound app - not the midi generator) into AEMD

It will record your midi while the app sounds in AUM.

I've only just got the app, so I've only tried this once and with no variations or permutations of setup.

wim

There’s no discernible sort order for the apps in the instrument list. It would be nice if it had an alphabetical sort for those of us who have waaayyyy too many plugins.

dwrae

@gfcalvi said:
Is AEMD sending clock/sync info to auv3 tracks ?
I can’t sync lorenz auv3 arpeggiator and model 15 auv3 seq with AEMD tempo definition.
Is there anything I need to setup ?

Although not strictly MIDI sync, it is using the iOS features/callbacks such that AUv3's can query the host for timestamps, tempo, beat position etc. I'll check those out.

dwrae

@wim said:
There’s no discernible sort order for the apps in the instrument list. It would be nice if it had an alphabetical sort for those of us who have waaayyyy too many plugins.

Good idea, I'll add sorting to the next release

McDtracy

@dwrae said:
Good idea, I'll add sorting to the next release

No App I own has done it but letting users drop AUv3/IAA instruments into folders (like the SF2 scheme) would be incredibly helpful. Scrolling the list of 50 options everytime and having to remember if it's by Vendor or App name, etc. is painful.

We could then create our own ontologies by our own special needs (Keys, PAD's, etc) as folders and drop App's from the root list into the subfolders to clean it up. That might convince a few more Big 3 DAW users to sign up. Maybe one of them already has it. Not sure.

At some point you're also going to get asked to save AU/IAA settings I think if it doesn't do that now to avoid have to tweak everytime you run the project or crash the App. Should we opt in to document the crashes? Do you value that info or are you busy on a specific set of tasks.

I suspect most users don't give enough info or you would need the same apps to determine root causes in most cases.

I'm sure you've got plenty to work on and I hope the $'s are coming in.

Matt_Fletcher_2000

Can anyone help me on a few things.

I can’t find an easy way to launch the apps AU GUI if you load in an AU (into a midi instrument track).

Eventually I found that if you choose to play the AU with a keyboard, rather than drum pads, you can access the AU’s own interface/GUI by double tapping ‘edit’ next to ‘presets’ when the keyboard is showing.

But for drum pads this doesn’t work.

And when you have a ‘drum midi’ track, even though it’s possible to load Ruismaker in as an AU I can’t access the Ruismaker AU interface. And im also having difficulty assigning the ‘drum midi’ lanes to actually trigger the Ruismaker sounds.

Anyone have any tips, specifically on running AUs as inputs?

Matt_Fletcher_2000

Also, can’t seem to get any noise at all out of the Roli Noise app added as a AU. Anyone had any more luck with ROLI Noise?

And it would be really great to be able to have a keyboard up at the same time as the AU GUI. Right now it’s tricky to preview presets / do any sound design because there’s no way to quickly play a note with various taps to get between the keyboard and the AU GUI.

I can see that’s it’s good to finally have an AU host DAW on iPhone other than Garage Band. But initially it’s been rather fraustrating to get the AU thing up and running. Maybe it will get easier .

Matt_Fletcher_2000

Mmmmm.

After a few hours, again I remember why I don’t do the full DAW with AUs thing.

I really admire you guys that do.

I just find it so fraustrating. AUs keep crashing (all the time!), some don’t work at all. Then others don’t remember the patch you had them set to when you reload the project.

Some, like LayR, have a lovely built in scale lockable keyboard. But then you realise that the host won’t record any midi played on that keyboard!

After all that, the idea of actually making any music seems like a distant memory.

I’m on an iPhone 6sPlus - so maybe I need a faster device. But I’m loathed to spend more money right now when I can make a 20 track project in Gadget on my phone.

AUs I’m specifically having issues with are:

• Volt - sounds amazing, but keeps crashing, and won’t remember its patch
• Roli Noise - no sound
• Pads - seems not to change it’s soubd whatever patch you change to
• Ruismaker - good, but can’t get it to work with the drum pads or the drum sequencer tracks

So lots of nearly but not quites.

Admitidly I am getting expected behaviour out of LayR, Mersenne, Model D and Zeeon - although not tried multiple instances.

McDtracy

@Matt_Fletcher_2000 said:
I can’t find an easy way to launch the apps AU GUI if you load in an AU (into a midi instrument track). ]

You must touch the little Keyboard image on page one of the channel strip. It's probably tricky on an iphone. I'm learning on my ipad. Slide in from the left edge and it should pop up.

Eventually I found that if you choose to play the AU with a keyboard, rather than drum pads, you can access the AU’s own interface/GUI by double tapping ‘edit’ next to ‘presets’ when the keyboard is showing.

Yes. For me I can only get to the AU GUI when I select a keyboard to use it.

But for drum pads this doesn’t work.

Looks like it. The developer has been pretty responsive so you should see some reply I think.

And when you have a ‘drum midi’ track, even though it’s possible to load Ruismaker in as an AU I can’t access the Ruismaker AU interface. And im also having difficulty assigning the ‘drum midi’ lanes to actually trigger the Ruismaker sounds.

Needs explanation or GUI fix.

Anyone have any tips, specifically on running AUs as inputs?

I've been using Keyboards exclusively so this is helping me learn about the current state of "use case" since my musical journey took a 20 year break and I didn't get into programming drum machines (I was a drummer so... don't get me started).

This sounds pretty serious. The App was created on Android so AUv3 features are getting integrated into the design.

Rodolfo

@Matt_Fletcher_2000 said:
Can anyone help me on a few things.

I can’t find an easy way to launch the apps AU GUI if you load in an AU (into a midi instrument track).

Eventually I found that if you choose to play the AU with a keyboard, rather than drum pads, you can access the AU’s own interface/GUI by double tapping ‘edit’ next to ‘presets’ when the keyboard is showing.

But for drum pads this doesn’t work.

And when you have a ‘drum midi’ track, even though it’s possible to load Ruismaker in as an AU I can’t access the Ruismaker AU interface. And im also having difficulty assigning the ‘drum midi’ lanes to actually trigger the Ruismaker sounds.

Anyone have any tips, specifically on running AUs as inputs?

Hi Matt, I struggled to open the AU interface too, but I found that what seems to be a long horizontal button is actually two buttons, you need to tap on the left most button, the one with a small keyboard and not the one with the name of the app. This will open up the AU main interface.

Matt_Fletcher_2000

@Rodolfo said:

@Matt_Fletcher_2000 said:
Can anyone help me on a few things.

I can’t find an easy way to launch the apps AU GUI if you load in an AU (into a midi instrument track).

Eventually I found that if you choose to play the AU with a keyboard, rather than drum pads, you can access the AU’s own interface/GUI by double tapping ‘edit’ next to ‘presets’ when the keyboard is showing.

But for drum pads this doesn’t work.

And when you have a ‘drum midi’ track, even though it’s possible to load Ruismaker in as an AU I can’t access the Ruismaker AU interface. And im also having difficulty assigning the ‘drum midi’ lanes to actually trigger the Ruismaker sounds.

Anyone have any tips, specifically on running AUs as inputs?

Hi Matt, I struggled to open the AU interface too, but I found that what seems to be a long horizontal button is actually two buttons, you need to tap on the left most button, the one with a small keyboard and not the one with the name of the app. This will open up the AU main interface.

Thanks. Appreciated.

Can anyone get SpaceCraft to load as an AU insert FX? When I try it says it’s loaded but just shows an empty, light brown screen where the AU should load.

Littlewoodg

@Matt_Fletcher_2000
I’m seeing the same thing with spacecraft as fx

In terms of finding stuff, The workflow and screens have become familiar with repeated use, it’s learning yet another piece of soft...not as steep a curve as some.

hisdudeness

@Audiojunkie said:
I've never made a video before. The beauty is that it works nearly identically to the iPad version (and Android as well--plus all the iOS AU, IAA, AB, etc goodies). It is really so well designed that the interface works great! Has Doug made any videos for this? @thesoundtestroom

In the meantime, here is a bunch of Youtube videos that you can check out:

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=audio+evolution+mobile+studio

Did you test out the basic effect like EQ, Comp, Limiter,Reverb? How do they stand with other apps out there?

did not find any video on them

dwrae

Just a note that I'm following the discussions and I'll try to reproduce any problem you find. Some are indeed just learning the app, but I wouldn't be surprised if there were some bugs/issues left.

Matt_Fletcher_2000

@dwrae said:
Just a note that I'm following the discussions and I'll try to reproduce any problem you find. Some are indeed just learning the app, but I wouldn't be surprised if there were some bugs/issues left.

Thanks. So can I ask, can AUs be used with:

A) drum midi tracks?
B ) drum pads?

Seems that it’s not possible to get to the AU’s interface in either case, but please let me know if I’m wrong.

dwrae

@Matt_Fletcher_2000 said:

@dwrae said:
Just a note that I'm following the discussions and I'll try to reproduce any problem you find. Some are indeed just learning the app, but I wouldn't be surprised if there were some bugs/issues left.

Thanks. So can I ask, can AUs be used with:

A) drum midi tracks?
B ) drum pads?

Seems that it’s not possible to get to the AU’s interface in either case, but please let me know if I’m wrong.

Not really since you cannot see the interface in those cases.

Matt_Fletcher_2000

@dwrae said:

@Matt_Fletcher_2000 said:

@dwrae said:
Just a note that I'm following the discussions and I'll try to reproduce any problem you find. Some are indeed just learning the app, but I wouldn't be surprised if there were some bugs/issues left.

Thanks. So can I ask, can AUs be used with:

A) drum midi tracks?
B ) drum pads?

Seems that it’s not possible to get to the AU’s interface in either case, but please let me know if I’m wrong.

Not really since you cannot see the interface in those cases.

Ok, thanks. Any plans to make that possible in the future?

For now I’m thinking about possibly running AUM in parallel with AEMS and sending midi to AUs hosted in AUM.

dwrae

@Matt_Fletcher_2000 said:

@dwrae said:

@Matt_Fletcher_2000 said:

@dwrae said:
Just a note that I'm following the discussions and I'll try to reproduce any problem you find. Some are indeed just learning the app, but I wouldn't be surprised if there were some bugs/issues left.

Thanks. So can I ask, can AUs be used with:

A) drum midi tracks?
B ) drum pads?

Seems that it’s not possible to get to the AU’s interface in either case, but please let me know if I’m wrong.

Not really since you cannot see the interface in those cases.

Ok, thanks. Any plans to make that possible in the future?

For now I’m thinking about possibly running AUM in parallel with AEMS and sending midi to AUs hosted in AUM.

For sure. Of course the AU's need to be general midi compatible, otherwise the sounds won't match

Matt_Fletcher_2000

@dwrae - thanks for replying so quickly by the way.

The issue I’m now having with sending midi out to AUM is that I can’t seem to see that AEMS reveals any virtual midi port that AUM (or Midi Flow) can see and connect to.

Neither does AEMS seem to ‘read’ MidiFlow or AUM’s virtual ports so no connection can be made within AEMS.

Or am I doing something wrong? (I’ve just created a straight midi track for this purpose).

Anyone else got AEMS sending midi to another app?

Matt_Fletcher_2000

Appologies... WORKING NOW

Seems like a restart of AEMS did the trick. It can now see AUM to connect to.

So that works... sending midi to AUs hosted in AUM. Then I can either record in AUM and then just move the audio files across. Or figure out a way to route the audio back live to AEMS.

Matt_Fletcher_2000

@dwrae said:

@Matt_Fletcher_2000 said:

@dwrae said:

@Matt_Fletcher_2000 said:

@dwrae said:
Just a note that I'm following the discussions and I'll try to reproduce any problem you find. Some are indeed just learning the app, but I wouldn't be surprised if there were some bugs/issues left.

Thanks. So can I ask, can AUs be used with:

A) drum midi tracks?
B ) drum pads?

Seems that it’s not possible to get to the AU’s interface in either case, but please let me know if I’m wrong.

Not really since you cannot see the interface in those cases.

Ok, thanks. Any plans to make that possible in the future?

For now I’m thinking about possibly running AUM in parallel with AEMS and sending midi to AUs hosted in AUM.

For sure. Of course the AU's need to be general midi compatible, otherwise the sounds won't match

Ruismaker is GM compatible but you have to press button on the Ruismaker UI to switch to GM mapping. Right now you can’t get to the UI to do this.