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  • @BiancaNeve said:

    @Carnbot said:

    @oat_phipps said:

    @Carnbot said:
    I think this could get more interesting when it's Polyphonic :)
    Even though I wish it was AU, I think I'm getting it anyway and will use AU midi recorder with it....

    I keep seeing mention of an AU midi recorder...did I miss something or is someone making one?

    Yes @midiSequencer is working on one. Soon I hope.

    Got this app last night and yeah, it's great. I hope it gets probability and chords though.

    If you use this with Midiflow adapter and the ScaleBud app you can get chords ....

    Yes true, and you don't even need the midiflow adapter, you can route it in apeMatrix or AUM/AB3 to Scalebud
    But chords built in would be great.

  • Yes was referring to Riffer :) but this app will be ideal for the Midi Recorder app since it doesn't export or have a good preset system yet.

  • edited October 2018

    @Carnbot said:

    Yes was referring to Riffer :) but this app will be ideal for the Midi Recorder app since it doesn't export or have a good preset system yet.

    or any other midi app that doesn't save performances - like your keyboard playing, Quantum etc

  • edited October 2018

    How's everyone getting on with this? Got much use? Bugs? Buyers joy/regret?

    I sussed out how to trigger synths in Maschine (Macbook) via Steppolyarp on the iPad today (I know, but it takes me a while to catch up). Works well, but a lot of the randomised stuff it produces is pretty unusable, and a couple of people have mentioned this one is better for usable sequences.

    Be interesting to hear any feedback anyone has after nearly a week of use, as this interests me for triggering dekstop stuff via wifi MIDI.

  • @chandroji said:

    @MonzoPro said:

    @StormJH1 said:

    @oat_phipps said:
    I dove in because the UI looked quality.

    So no export MIDI on the iOS version? No big deal, can just record it in DAW I guess.

    Otherwise it's a fun little tool and is a pretty smart randomizer. I will get a good amount of use out of it.

    Yeah I was surprised there was no MIDI export since the VST version showcased that feature. That would be a nice thing to add in future updates.

    Gadget has MIDI export - is there a way to record or send the sequences to Gadget? I’m guessing the easiest way would be to load Gadget as IAA in AUM, and record it straight in.

    No problem with Gadget, no need for AUM to send sequences.
    You can also use xequence for recording and exporting midi...

    Have you got Xequence recording midi from this? For the life of me I can’t get it happening!

  • @Fruitbat1919 said:

    @chandroji said:

    @MonzoPro said:

    @StormJH1 said:

    @oat_phipps said:
    I dove in because the UI looked quality.

    So no export MIDI on the iOS version? No big deal, can just record it in DAW I guess.

    Otherwise it's a fun little tool and is a pretty smart randomizer. I will get a good amount of use out of it.

    Yeah I was surprised there was no MIDI export since the VST version showcased that feature. That would be a nice thing to add in future updates.

    Gadget has MIDI export - is there a way to record or send the sequences to Gadget? I’m guessing the easiest way would be to load Gadget as IAA in AUM, and record it straight in.

    No problem with Gadget, no need for AUM to send sequences.
    You can also use xequence for recording and exporting midi...

    Have you got Xequence recording midi from this? For the life of me I can’t get it happening!

    Best way seems to be to use a host as a router, so select apematrix as midi out destination in riffer. Then in apematrix select midi destination as Xequence. Then on the midi matrix connect your input pin to the output.

    This works for me recording into Xequence.

  • edited October 2018

    @Fruitbat1919 said:

    @chandroji said:

    @MonzoPro said:

    @StormJH1 said:

    @oat_phipps said:
    I dove in because the UI looked quality.

    So no export MIDI on the iOS version? No big deal, can just record it in DAW I guess.

    Otherwise it's a fun little tool and is a pretty smart randomizer. I will get a good amount of use out of it.

    Yeah I was surprised there was no MIDI export since the VST version showcased that feature. That would be a nice thing to add in future updates.

    Gadget has MIDI export - is there a way to record or send the sequences to Gadget? I’m guessing the easiest way would be to load Gadget as IAA in AUM, and record it straight in.

    No problem with Gadget, no need for AUM to send sequences.
    You can also use xequence for recording and exporting midi...

    Have you got Xequence recording midi from this? For the life of me I can’t get it happening!

    Hi @Fruitbat1919
    It’s the same like in gadget.
    In Riffer I set the midi output to xequence destination

    In xequence i choose a Instrument, here Synth one...

    Finally I hit the infinity button in Riffer, hit play and record the random stuff in xequence

    Done! 😊
    You can record directly in Xequence, no need for AB, or ApeMatrix!

  • Oh yeah, that’s easier, true :)
    Although i’d still use a host like apematrix to filter the midi in my use, streambyter etc.
    Only just bought Xequence and don’t have the iap yet. Unsure how far I’m going to use it for now but will see. I’m hopeful of an AUv3 midi piano roll eventually which will be a bit more seamless In a host.

  • @chandroji said:

    @Fruitbat1919 said:

    @chandroji said:

    @MonzoPro said:

    @StormJH1 said:

    @oat_phipps said:
    I dove in because the UI looked quality.

    So no export MIDI on the iOS version? No big deal, can just record it in DAW I guess.

    Otherwise it's a fun little tool and is a pretty smart randomizer. I will get a good amount of use out of it.

    Yeah I was surprised there was no MIDI export since the VST version showcased that feature. That would be a nice thing to add in future updates.

    Gadget has MIDI export - is there a way to record or send the sequences to Gadget? I’m guessing the easiest way would be to load Gadget as IAA in AUM, and record it straight in.

    No problem with Gadget, no need for AUM to send sequences.
    You can also use xequence for recording and exporting midi...

    Have you got Xequence recording midi from this? For the life of me I can’t get it happening!

    Hi @Fruitbat1919
    It’s the same like in gadget.
    In Riffer I set the midi output to xequence destination

    In xequence i choose a Instrument, here Synth one...

    Finally I hit the infinity button in Riffer, hit play and record the random stuff in xequence

    Done! 😊
    You can record directly in Xequence, no need for AB, or ApeMatrix!

    Thanks guys. I’ve got it now. I was doing it right, but I’ve noticed that occasionally switching between Riffer and Xequence, Riffer would lose its midi output destination! This is very peculiar!

  • edited October 2018

    Sorry for my doubled thread....but do people here like it and/or find it useful.
    I could get the VST/AU for $ 19.99 via APD.
    It‘s Logic midi FX as well i think.

  • @Cib said:
    Sorry for my doubled thread....but do people here like it and/or find it useful.
    I could get the VST/AU for $ 19.99 via APD.
    It‘s Logic midi FX as well i think.

    I could imagine it’s quite useful as a VST, but the iOS version lacks that immediacy of being able to just drag the midi onto a lane

  • @Fruitbat1919 said:

    @Cib said:
    Sorry for my doubled thread....but do people here like it and/or find it useful.
    I could get the VST/AU for $ 19.99 via APD.
    It‘s Logic midi FX as well i think.

    I could imagine it’s quite useful as a VST, but the iOS version lacks that immediacy of being able to just drag the midi onto a lane

    Sad to hear. I wonder why iOS tools don‘t offer drop and drag already everywhere. There is no better workflow and a multi-touch device should be great here of course.
    I just see there is a demo....so i just can try it.

  • @Fruitbat1919 said:
    I could imagine it’s quite useful as a VST, but the iOS version lacks that immediacy of being able to just drag the midi onto a lane

    Yeah, I was really pretty surprised to buy the app and find out that it didn't export MIDI in any easy way. That's strange given that the VST version (and demo video) clearly exhibit that ability, and the app does nothing else besides generate MIDI.

    I think there's reason to be hopeful for the future with this one, but it needs a little help to avoid disappearing into wasteland of flawed/abandoned MIDI sequencers and editors. It needs AU MIDI capability to fit into a workflow. It could benefit from allowing for polyphony for people who just want to set up quick chord or pad sequences in AUM.

    The generative feature of this app is pretty well done, and I could see using it more than something like StepPolyArp, which is a cool app, but has a workflow/theory approach that will turn a lot of people off. But we a fair amount of apps that already have this scale-relative note generation feature, and I don't know that this is done better than Rozeta or Xequence/Polyhymnia.

  • But we a fair amount of apps that already have this scale-relative note generation feature, and I don't know that this is done better than Rozeta or Xequence/Polyhymnia.

    Bought and tried it for some 20 minutes - I think it sounds way more ”musical” out of the box than Rozeta (Collider/Particles), PolyHymnia, Physicles or even Wotja (but hey, no, I just don’t get the complexity of Wotja).

    But it definitely needs AB and AU support to be a tool rather than a toy.

  • My cat walking across my iPad gives me very nice, musical-sounding randomness as well.
    But a cat has a subscription. You have to pay in food and love.

  • edited October 2018

    I heard they working on a poly version....not sure if iOS get that as well then....

  • @CracklePot said:
    My cat walking across my iPad gives me very nice, musical-sounding randomness as well.
    But a cat has a subscription. You have to pay in food and love.

    Don't forget cleaning the cat box!

  • @lukesleepwalker said:

    @CracklePot said:
    My cat walking across my iPad gives me very nice, musical-sounding randomness as well.
    But a cat has a subscription. You have to pay in food and love.

    Don't forget cleaning the cat box!

    That's the dog's job!

  • @JeffChasteen said:

    @lukesleepwalker said:

    @CracklePot said:
    My cat walking across my iPad gives me very nice, musical-sounding randomness as well.
    But a cat has a subscription. You have to pay in food and love.

    Don't forget cleaning the cat box!

    That's the dog's job!

    Ha, yes. Tootsie rolls for the dog!

  • @lukesleepwalker said:

    @JeffChasteen said:

    @lukesleepwalker said:

    @CracklePot said:
    My cat walking across my iPad gives me very nice, musical-sounding randomness as well.
    But a cat has a subscription. You have to pay in food and love.

    Don't forget cleaning the cat box!

    That's the dog's job!

    Ha, yes. Tootsie rolls for the dog!

    I have always wondered why they don't make catshit-flavored treats for dogs. Evidently dogs love the taste.
    They could even call it "Pick Of The Litter"

  • @JeffChasteen said:

    @lukesleepwalker said:

    @JeffChasteen said:

    @lukesleepwalker said:

    @CracklePot said:
    My cat walking across my iPad gives me very nice, musical-sounding randomness as well.
    But a cat has a subscription. You have to pay in food and love.

    Don't forget cleaning the cat box!

    That's the dog's job!

    Ha, yes. Tootsie rolls for the dog!

    I have always wondered why they don't make catshit-flavored treats for dogs. Evidently dogs love the taste.
    They could even call it "Pick Of The Litter"

    GOLD.

  • This according to the dev, written on a review on the App Store ... “AU will be available on a next update”

    Very encouraging. How are you all getting along with it?

  • I’m not clear if Riffer has any unique features that you can’t already do in Quantum? AU will be nice though.

  • Hi @Audiomodern
    Is current price an intro price? Thanks.

  • @CracklePot said:
    My cat walking across my iPad gives me very nice, musical-sounding randomness as well.
    But a cat has a subscription. You have to pay in food and love.

    My cat, Tiger, has his own iPad Pro. Food, love & gadgets. Cats have evolved since last century 😉

  • @kinkujin said:
    This according to the dev, written on a review on the App Store ... “AU will be available on a next update”

    Very encouraging. How are you all getting along with it?

    That's great, which appstore is that review? Can't see it in UK one.
    AU would make me use this a lot more :)

  • @Carnbot said:

    @kinkujin said:
    This according to the dev, written on a review on the App Store ... “AU will be available on a next update”

    Very encouraging. How are you all getting along with it?

    That's great, which appstore is that review? Can't see it in UK one.
    AU would make me use this a lot more :)

    U.S.
    note it says, on a next update, not the next update. ;)

  • @kinkujin said:

    @Carnbot said:

    @kinkujin said:
    This according to the dev, written on a review on the App Store ... “AU will be available on a next update”

    Very encouraging. How are you all getting along with it?

    That's great, which appstore is that review? Can't see it in UK one.
    AU would make me use this a lot more :)

    U.S.
    note it says, on a next update, not the next update. ;)

    yep that's always a useful disclaimer ;)

  • It works really well and midi can be saved as stated to xequencer or Auriapro. It just needs better conection to Audiobus . Just imagine if you could open more than one instance in a daw, thar would be really Wow!

  • @Carnbot said:
    Oh. Just realised the save pattern feature is broken. Anyone else find this? I reload the app and the saved patterns are blank.
    I'm noticing the familiar IAA bugs today as well. But hopefully we'll get a bugfix soonish.

    Seems to be working ok for me.

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